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#1 joliver233

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 05:09 PM

I know other people have posted about these, but I rolled one the other day, and I was impressed. IMO they were as good as anything PING or Scotty Cameron or better. Loved the feel, clean lines, and didn't notice the ball skidding or skipping as much. Great offerings to go along with the equally good, again imo, Spider Tours. Anyone else noticed the same with these putters?

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 03:16 AM

I picked up a soto because i wanted to play around with a blade putter on my indoor putting green agree with all the above very nice putter.

I liked it so much i got a tp ardmore to replace my Oworks fang ch gamer really felt the Oworks was far too soft and lacked feedback

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:21 AM

The TP Collection is a solid line of putters and they would be doing very well if they weren't being overshadowed by the Spider Tour putters.
I recently got a fitting and my suggestions were a mallet with a toe
hang between 30* and 45*. The Juno and Soto felt great. They each have 35* of toe hang. I have been putting with the TP Mullen the last 2 weeks which is the TP mid mallet and it has 38* of toe hang and for me, it's a little more stable forgiving then the Juno and Soto. But I agree that  the feel of the Juno and Soto is just as good as the PING Sigma G, Odyssey O-Works and the new Scotty Camerons.
I think I'll pull the trigger on a Mullen over the weekend.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 08:53 AM

I rolled the Berwick and loved the feel of it.  Was going to pull the trigger, but saw a pic of that "wingless" Spider and am waiting to see what TM is coming out with soon
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:01 AM

I agree, it's a very good line of putters. I find something about the design of the Soto makes it appear ever so slightly more boxy than most Newport style heads, which I actually like. I would have already picked one up if they weren't so light. I'm one of those in the camp with people who prefer a heavier putter, and 345g doesn't do it for me, particularly at 34" or so. Perhaps with a lot of practice I could get used to it but a slightly heavier head really helps me with distance control.

Edited by Need4spd, 07 September 2017 - 09:03 AM.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:09 AM

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

I rolled the Berwick and loved the feel of it.  Was going to pull the trigger, but saw a pic of that "wingless" Spider and am waiting to see what TM is coming out with soon

Have you picture of this "wingless" Spider? I'm very intrigued

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:15 AM

View PostClassesLake, on 07 September 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

I rolled the Berwick and loved the feel of it.  Was going to pull the trigger, but saw a pic of that "wingless" Spider and am waiting to see what TM is coming out with soon

Have you picture of this "wingless" Spider? I'm very intrigued

There's a thread in the Tour & Pre-Release section with photos and some info on new TaylorMade putters coming.  Looks really good and I pray it is released

http://www.golfwrx.c...at-bridgestone/

Edited by RobNY22, 07 September 2017 - 10:16 AM.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 12:10 PM

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 10:15 AM, said:

View PostClassesLake, on 07 September 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

I rolled the Berwick and loved the feel of it.  Was going to pull the trigger, but saw a pic of that "wingless" Spider and am waiting to see what TM is coming out with soon

Have you picture of this "wingless" Spider? I'm very intrigued

There's a thread in the Tour & Pre-Release section with photos and some info on new TaylorMade putters coming.  Looks really good and I pray it is released

http://www.golfwrx.c...at-bridgestone/

Thanks for the link. I'm assuming that the specs are the same as the Spider Tour with "wings" and I can't lag putt with those putters to save my life so I'd say that I'll still purchase the TP Mullen over the weekend.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 12:29 PM

Anyone know if Taylormade plans on releasing weights for the TP line? I purchased a Soto and it feels great. Would love to be able to mess around with some weights.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 03:07 PM

Weights and wrench are avalible from TM i just ordered two 15 gram weights and wrench for my soto, had my local store order them as im in Australia


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 11:53 PM

View PostClassesLake, on 07 September 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 10:15 AM, said:

View PostClassesLake, on 07 September 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

I rolled the Berwick and loved the feel of it.  Was going to pull the trigger, but saw a pic of that "wingless" Spider and am waiting to see what TM is coming out with soon

Have you picture of this "wingless" Spider? I'm very intrigued

There's a thread in the Tour & Pre-Release section with photos and some info on new TaylorMade putters coming.  Looks really good and I pray it is released

http://www.golfwrx.c...at-bridgestone/

Thanks for the link. I'm assuming that the specs are the same as the Spider Tour with "wings" and I can't lag putt with those putters to save my life so I'd say that I'll still purchase the TP Mullen over the weekend.

Since you've rolled both lines, are the inserts the same or similar?  I liked the feel of the TP Berwick insert, but I'm probably the only person on GolfWRX who has never rolled a Spider even at a shop.  I've picked them up, looked down at it, and put it back on the rack about 10 times.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 04:57 AM

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

View PostClassesLake, on 07 September 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 10:15 AM, said:

View PostClassesLake, on 07 September 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

View PostRobNY22, on 07 September 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

I rolled the Berwick and loved the feel of it.  Was going to pull the trigger, but saw a pic of that "wingless" Spider and am waiting to see what TM is coming out with soon

Have you picture of this "wingless" Spider? I'm very intrigued

There's a thread in the Tour & Pre-Release section with photos and some info on new TaylorMade putters coming.  Looks really good and I pray it is released

http://www.golfwrx.c...at-bridgestone/

Thanks for the link. I'm assuming that the specs are the same as the Spider Tour with "wings" and I can't lag putt with those putters to save my life so I'd say that I'll still purchase the TP Mullen over the weekend.

Since you've rolled both lines, are the inserts the same or similar?  I liked the feel of the TP Berwick insert, but I'm probably the only person on GolfWRX who has never rolled a Spider even at a shop.  I've picked them up, looked down at it, and put it back on the rack about 10 times.

The insert in the TP line is the same as in the Spider Tour Red JD putter as outlined in this article.
http://www.golfwrx.c...assic-category/
Take what I say with a pinch of salt as feel is subjective but I'll share my experience with both. I'm sure some may disageee with my assessment.
While the TP line has the same insert as the Spider Red, the feel is not simalr. I honestly think that I've never putted better with any putter inside 6 feet as I did with the Spider. It was so stable. Middle distances were also decent but I just couldn't dial it in on the ones beyond 15 feet. I felt I had to really give it a good whack on lag putts and that in turn, threw off my feel, pace, line etc. Others have mentioned that they have encountered the same issue with the Spider Tour red and black.
I think the TP Mullen (which is the TP Collection putter that I've been playing around with and it has the same amount of toe hang as the Spider Tours) performs close enough to the Spider on short and middle distances but I find the TP Mullen way better on putts that are 15 feet+.
There is a fantastic feel off the Mullen on short, middle distance and long putts. I'm not a big fan of insert putters as most of them feel too soft for my slower than average tempo stroke at impact but I don't have this issue with the TP Collection inserts. The Mullen and the Berwick are compact mallets which appear to really suit me. I like the weight dispersion on them. They are very stable through each stroke.
I've also mentioned this on another thread on here. The TP Collection would be doing very well if it wasn't overshadowed by the Spider Tours. DJ and Garcia have ditched the Spider Tours as of late and as far as I'm aware, Johnson, Mcilroy, Kaymer (not doing much right now but a 2 time major champion) and Matsuyama are all currently gaming putters from the TP line.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:58 AM

Its funny to see all of the sudden people are dropping their spiders on the bst for these now!
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:16 AM

View PostKapp, on 08 September 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

Its funny to see all of the sudden people are dropping their spiders on the bst for these now!

I think it's down to 2 main factors. Firstly, many people want to love these putters (myself included) but it's very hard to dial in the distance with them especially over longer distances.
Secondly, DJ who won 3 or 4 tournaments in a row before the Masters with the Spider black and Garcia winning the Masters with a Spider red have both ditched their Spiders. I feel that gives them justification to put them on the BST.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:27 AM

View PostClassesLake, on 08 September 2017 - 06:16 AM, said:

View PostKapp, on 08 September 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

Its funny to see all of the sudden people are dropping their spiders on the bst for these now!

I think it's down to 2 main factors. Firstly, many people want to love these putters (myself included) but it's very hard to dial in the distance with them especially over longer distances.
Secondly, DJ who won 3 or 4 tournaments in a row before the Masters with the Spider black and Garcia winning the Masters with a Spider red have both ditched their Spiders. I feel that gives them justification to put them on the BST.

Agree with you completely. Just crazy how much power these guys have over the retail

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:06 AM

The TP Collection line are a quality premium line of putters and IMHO, the Spider Tours are a bit gimmicky. I would take a TP putter over a Spider any day.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:01 PM

I wish my local retailers had the TP line in, none of them carry the line in stock.

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 05:53 PM

I have a Berwick arriving tomorrow. I fell in love with the Berwick a few weeks ago at Golf Galaxy, but my putting hasn't been a problem so I wasn't motivated to buy it. Caught a great price on a used one last week, so I finally get to see whether it can beat out my Cameron X2.
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Posted 24 September 2017 - 06:01 PM

They should be called the Soso and the Hellno
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 04:54 PM

Just bought the Juno TP (non-copper) and am just in love...is that wrong.  This thing is just balanced perfect for my stroke.  I tend to open the toe to much on the takeaway with Anser styles, but this putter I dont tend to fight this.  I also love the insert.  It is firm/muted enough with just the right amount of pop to fit my style of putting.  I can not wait to get this on the course.  I will report back after the round!

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:34 PM

I have finally made my TP Soto to match my 12 year old gamer (Rossa CGB Daytona 1) by removing the 10g stock weights and replacing them with 5g weights and then replacing the stock 66g grip with a 58g Winn medalist pistol grip.  Almost identical profile!!

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