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Mizuno MP18 Full Line - In Hand Review with Comparison Pics. Plus the BAG!


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#61 marlowe70

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:04 AM

View Posttobybear, on 14 September 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

View PostBlabert, on 13 September 2017 - 11:50 AM, said:

For weight, I find it strange that basicaly only Mizuno offers a B weight (lighter). It opens up so much in fitting the toral weight and balance

Mizuno are really the only ones that come out and say it.  Basically every OEM has some way of offering lighter heads to customers using over length clubs. The big benefit ( and difference ) with Mizuno offering these different weight heads from the start vs. some other is that the less mass added after the fact keeps the COG right where it should be: Behind the center of the face. Its also different for Mizuno since many of their models are single piece forged with no badges.

For example:

Taylormade - Use one head weight to start ( for each iron ) then uses hosel weight ports, that are installed depending on the specs requested. They use a different epoxy on these so they don't just fall out when re-shafting.

PING - uses the CTP. Cool thing with PING is the CTP is right behind the center of mass ( hopefully the correct term ) so even when adding a lot of weight the Sweet spot never moves from the center of the face

Callaway - Depends on the irons GI use some hosel weights and behind badge weights ( at least they used to ), Players clubs use tip weights

Srixon - They use tip weights.


Do you know if Mizuno uses B weight heads for overlength wedges also?


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 12:57 PM

View Posttobybear, on 05 October 2017 - 10:48 PM, said:

View PostTre4ISU, on 05 October 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

How would you compare the SCs to the MP25s since you have had both? I really want to go with a full set of blades but I'm just a little hesitant and I live quite a ways from somewhere where I can do some actual testing.

The 25's offered a slightly higher ball flight in the longer irons but I was also playing a different shaft in those. With the PX LZ I have been able to achieve the same flight with the blades. The SC's are smaller in profile especially in the shorter irons compared to the 25s and I really like that. Overall the blades are not that difficult to hit ( for a blade iron ) but I think its also a matter of finding the right spec and shafts. The SC's are so pretty and like I said earlier in the review I could have easily combo'd the blades with the SC's until I go the the Fli-Hi 3 but I really didn't want to have 3 different iron models in the bag just for the 4 and 5 iron. That is a personal choice because they blend absolutely perfectly. Plus I really wanted to get back to using blades :) thats the truth.

Thanks.....I think, for helping me to spend money on these things. I would actually prefer a little lower flight in my long irons. I love my 25s but I've always wanted to play a set of blades just to do it and I think maybe I'm at the point where I can do it now so these may be the ones to jump on.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 04:27 PM

Probably going to go for mp18 & mp18 sc combo. Does anyone know how these compare to the mp64? That's what I play currently. Have a fitting next week 😀

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:57 PM

View Postmarlowe70, on 06 October 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

View Posttobybear, on 14 September 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

View PostBlabert, on 13 September 2017 - 11:50 AM, said:

For weight, I find it strange that basicaly only Mizuno offers a B weight (lighter). It opens up so much in fitting the toral weight and balance

Mizuno are really the only ones that come out and say it.  Basically every OEM has some way of offering lighter heads to customers using over length clubs. The big benefit ( and difference ) with Mizuno offering these different weight heads from the start vs. some other is that the less mass added after the fact keeps the COG right where it should be: Behind the center of the face. Its also different for Mizuno since many of their models are single piece forged with no badges.

For example:

Taylormade - Use one head weight to start ( for each iron ) then uses hosel weight ports, that are installed depending on the specs requested. They use a different epoxy on these so they don't just fall out when re-shafting.

PING - uses the CTP. Cool thing with PING is the CTP is right behind the center of mass ( hopefully the correct term ) so even when adding a lot of weight the Sweet spot never moves from the center of the face

Callaway - Depends on the irons GI use some hosel weights and behind badge weights ( at least they used to ), Players clubs use tip weights

Srixon - They use tip weights.


Do you know if Mizuno uses B weight heads for overlength wedges also?

Mizuno Uses a "B" weight ( lighter) head for iron sets built to +.5" or more unless other wise requested

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:59 PM

View PostTre4ISU, on 06 October 2017 - 12:57 PM, said:

View Posttobybear, on 05 October 2017 - 10:48 PM, said:

View PostTre4ISU, on 05 October 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

How would you compare the SCs to the MP25s since you have had both? I really want to go with a full set of blades but I'm just a little hesitant and I live quite a ways from somewhere where I can do some actual testing.

The 25's offered a slightly higher ball flight in the longer irons but I was also playing a different shaft in those. With the PX LZ I have been able to achieve the same flight with the blades. The SC's are smaller in profile especially in the shorter irons compared to the 25s and I really like that. Overall the blades are not that difficult to hit ( for a blade iron ) but I think its also a matter of finding the right spec and shafts. The SC's are so pretty and like I said earlier in the review I could have easily combo'd the blades with the SC's until I go the the Fli-Hi 3 but I really didn't want to have 3 different iron models in the bag just for the 4 and 5 iron. That is a personal choice because they blend absolutely perfectly. Plus I really wanted to get back to using blades :) thats the truth.

Thanks.....I think, for helping me to spend money on these things. I would actually prefer a little lower flight in my long irons. I love my 25s but I've always wanted to play a set of blades just to do it and I think maybe I'm at the point where I can do it now so these may be the ones to jump on.

When it comes to blades this set is literally perfect. Also compared club to club with the same shaft you should see a lower and slightly flatter flight with the 18's vs the 25s for sure.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:07 PM

View PostSpudgun, on 06 October 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

Probably going to go for mp18 & mp18 sc combo. Does anyone know how these compare to the mp64? That's what I play currently. Have a fitting next week ��

I have played Mizuos for a long time and i can include the 64's as one of the models I played after having 62s and other - actually still have a set of 62s in the travel bag.

Between the two sets here's what you will notice.

The short irons in the 18's vs. the 64's are more square and also shorter heel to toe. This is the one big design difference in the 18's vs previous models - the redesigned short iron shape from their craftsman in Japan.

Ball flight wise they will be pretty close with a lower flight - or more controllable flight in the mid and short irons because of the higher CoG compared to the 64's.

Also the new 18's use the new and improved Grain Flow Forging Process so they should feel softer. Not going to be a night and day difference but you may find the sound / feel to slightly different.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:54 AM

Thanks tb that's great. The 9 & P design of the 64s is my least favourite aspect of the set, to me they just don't look right, so squarer is good!
I need more forgiveness in the 4&5 as well, that's where the sc steps in with the 5, I may go fli hi in the 4. Cheers

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 11:17 PM

Went to try some driving irons and it was hands down the MP 18 Fli Hi. This thing looked, felt and sounded great. It basically feels like a chunky long iron but the toe weight almost offsets the offset and I didn't hit one left on the Trackman. Its so stable and workable and at 150 bucks, I couldn't say no. Traded in about a hundred bucks worth of old clubs and paid about 75 for it. Should be here in a week or so. Can't wait!

Got the 2 iron 1 degree flat with a TTDG X100 and a Lamkin Crossline grip

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Mizuno MP-18 Fli-Hi 2i / X100
Bridgestone J15cb's 4-P / X100
Taylormade ATV 50 and RAC 54, 58 / S300
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Posted 21 October 2017 - 11:36 PM

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 21 October 2017 - 11:17 PM, said:

Went to try some driving irons and it was hands down the MP 18 Fli Hi. This thing looked, felt and sounded great. It basically feels like a chunky long iron but the toe weight almost offsets the offset and I didn't hit one left on the Trackman. Its so stable and workable and at 150 bucks, I couldn't say no. Traded is about a hundred bucks worth of old clubs and paid about 75 for it. Should be here in a week or so. Can't wait!

Got the 2 iron 1 degree flat with a TTDG X100 and a Lamkin Crossline grip

I just ordered a combo set with the 2 iron and was told the 2 was on back order and wouldn't ship for 3 weeks. I'm hoping it's sooner than that. They are sweet no doubt! I ordered 2-4 fli-hi, 5 and 6 SC, 7-pw blades.
Taylormade M1 430 TI 8 Tensei CK Orange 70x
Taylormade M2 TI DF 14.2 GD Tour AD GT 8x
Nike Vapor Fly Pro 2 iron RIP Tour 115
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Posted 22 October 2017 - 12:27 AM

View Postjetmech879, on 21 October 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 21 October 2017 - 11:17 PM, said:

Went to try some driving irons and it was hands down the MP 18 Fli Hi. This thing looked, felt and sounded great. It basically feels like a chunky long iron but the toe weight almost offsets the offset and I didn't hit one left on the Trackman. Its so stable and workable and at 150 bucks, I couldn't say no. Traded is about a hundred bucks worth of old clubs and paid about 75 for it. Should be here in a week or so. Can't wait!

Got the 2 iron 1 degree flat with a TTDG X100 and a Lamkin Crossline grip

I just ordered a combo set with the 2 iron and was told the 2 was on back order and wouldn't ship for 3 weeks. I'm hoping it's sooner than that. They are sweet no doubt! I ordered 2-4 fli-hi, 5 and 6 SC, 7-pw blades.

Awesome man! The shop I bought it through ordered it on Friday. I haven't heard about the backorder but may call Monday to see if that's the case.

Play well!

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Bridgestone J15cb's 4-P / X100
Taylormade ATV 50 and RAC 54, 58 / S300
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Posted 22 October 2017 - 11:12 AM

I played my 3rd round with my MP-18 SC 7 iron. Can't say I'm overly impressed. On the par 3's, it feels nice when teed up. However, I don't quite like the turf interaction. My MP-5s seems to glide through the turf much easier.

A lot of folks didn't like the 5's because they were bigger than the 4's. However, for those of us looking for a cavity back, the 5's seem to provide the best compromise. It's a muscleback with the forgiveness of a CB.

I'll give the 18 a few more rounds, but it's looking like the 5's are going to be staying in the bag.


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 01:52 PM

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 22 October 2017 - 12:27 AM, said:

View Postjetmech879, on 21 October 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 21 October 2017 - 11:17 PM, said:

Went to try some driving irons and it was hands down the MP 18 Fli Hi. This thing looked, felt and sounded great. It basically feels like a chunky long iron but the toe weight almost offsets the offset and I didn't hit one left on the Trackman. Its so stable and workable and at 150 bucks, I couldn't say no. Traded is about a hundred bucks worth of old clubs and paid about 75 for it. Should be here in a week or so. Can't wait!

Got the 2 iron 1 degree flat with a TTDG X100 and a Lamkin Crossline grip

I just ordered a combo set with the 2 iron and was told the 2 was on back order and wouldn't ship for 3 weeks. I'm hoping it's sooner than that. They are sweet no doubt! I ordered 2-4 fli-hi, 5 and 6 SC, 7-pw blades.

Awesome man! The shop I bought it through ordered it on Friday. I haven't heard about the backorder but may call Monday to see if that's the case.

Play well!

Well mine is also backordered lol. He said Mizuno is getting a shipment of heads on 11/10 and my club should be delivered about a week after
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Bridgestone J15cb's 4-P / X100
Taylormade ATV 50 and RAC 54, 58 / S300
Odyssey White Hot Pro 35"
Taylormade TP5X
Bushnell Tour Z6 Jolt

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 06:57 PM

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 23 October 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 22 October 2017 - 12:27 AM, said:

View Postjetmech879, on 21 October 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 21 October 2017 - 11:17 PM, said:

Went to try some driving irons and it was hands down the MP 18 Fli Hi. This thing looked, felt and sounded great. It basically feels like a chunky long iron but the toe weight almost offsets the offset and I didn't hit one left on the Trackman. Its so stable and workable and at 150 bucks, I couldn't say no. Traded is about a hundred bucks worth of old clubs and paid about 75 for it. Should be here in a week or so. Can't wait!

Got the 2 iron 1 degree flat with a TTDG X100 and a Lamkin Crossline grip

I just ordered a combo set with the 2 iron and was told the 2 was on back order and wouldn't ship for 3 weeks. I'm hoping it's sooner than that. They are sweet no doubt! I ordered 2-4 fli-hi, 5 and 6 SC, 7-pw blades.

Awesome man! The shop I bought it through ordered it on Friday. I haven't heard about the backorder but may call Monday to see if that's the case.

Play well!

Well mine is also backordered lol. He said Mizuno is getting a shipment of heads on 11/10 and my club should be delivered about a week after

I guess they are rather popular! That's a good sign!
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Taylormade M2 TI DF 14.2 GD Tour AD GT 8x
Nike Vapor Fly Pro 2 iron RIP Tour 115
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Vokey SM5 blue 53m-09, 59m-09 DG TI S400
Mizuno MP A-308 Putter

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 08:44 PM

I have only hit my SCs at the range because we have had a ton of rain lately...
I ordered them one degree strong to try to bring the trajectory down a touch and also match the lofts of my Apex Pros (also one degree strong).
From what I have seen at the range I am seeing similar distances but slightly higher ball flight (which I attribute to the Modus 120s vs the Tour Vs in my Apex Pros).  
The Mizunos are a little softer when pured, but also a little harsher on off center hits.  So far my only complaint is that the Mizunos are a little chunkier than ideal for me.  Definitely chunkier than the Apex Pros.  I wish they had a thinner top line and sole.  However, as a lefty the SCs are the sexiest offering from Mizuno that I have seen in a long time so couldn't resist!
Looking forward to getting them on the course!

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7-P: Titleist 716 MB (KBS Tour-V 110S)
Wedges (50/54/58):   Mizuno S18 (Modus 120s)
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Posted 24 October 2017 - 09:53 AM

View PostTCZ, on 23 October 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

I have only hit my SCs at the range because we have had a ton of rain lately...
I ordered them one degree strong to try to bring the trajectory down a touch and also match the lofts of my Apex Pros (also one degree strong).
From what I have seen at the range I am seeing similar distances but slightly higher ball flight (which I attribute to the Modus 120s vs the Tour Vs in my Apex Pros).  
The Mizunos are a little softer when pured, but also a little harsher on off center hits.  So far my only complaint is that the Mizunos are a little chunkier than ideal for me.  Definitely chunkier than the Apex Pros.  I wish they had a thinner top line and sole.  However, as a lefty the SCs are the sexiest offering from Mizuno that I have seen in a long time so couldn't resist!
Looking forward to getting them on the course!

Very nice! How much to ship them down to Chicago? ;-) How are the S18 wedges working for you? I recently got the 56/14 and bent it to 54.

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:04 AM

The main reason I went with the wedges is to try matching the shafts from my set for the first time.  So far I am really this aspect.  No real course experience yet though.  As far as feel goes, I don't find that the forged S18s feel all that much softer than my SM6s (which I love), maybe a bit.
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Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:21 AM

I got a hold of another older set of Mizunos and decided to do a few more comparison shots. Only had a 7 iron. MP18 vs MP 69

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The 18 is certainly more Square but that also helps make the toe seem sharper. Top line is just a bit more beefy but not much. It's not that it's actually thicker it's just more Square.

The one thing that can't been seen is that the 18 short irons are shorter heel to toe and way less round in profile vs the 69s

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 03:42 PM

View Posttobybear, on 09 October 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

View PostTre4ISU, on 06 October 2017 - 12:57 PM, said:

View Posttobybear, on 05 October 2017 - 10:48 PM, said:

View PostTre4ISU, on 05 October 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

How would you compare the SCs to the MP25s since you have had both? I really want to go with a full set of blades but I'm just a little hesitant and I live quite a ways from somewhere where I can do some actual testing.

The 25's offered a slightly higher ball flight in the longer irons but I was also playing a different shaft in those. With the PX LZ I have been able to achieve the same flight with the blades. The SC's are smaller in profile especially in the shorter irons compared to the 25s and I really like that. Overall the blades are not that difficult to hit ( for a blade iron ) but I think its also a matter of finding the right spec and shafts. The SC's are so pretty and like I said earlier in the review I could have easily combo'd the blades with the SC's until I go the the Fli-Hi 3 but I really didn't want to have 3 different iron models in the bag just for the 4 and 5 iron. That is a personal choice because they blend absolutely perfectly. Plus I really wanted to get back to using blades :) thats the truth.

Thanks.....I think, for helping me to spend money on these things. I would actually prefer a little lower flight in my long irons. I love my 25s but I've always wanted to play a set of blades just to do it and I think maybe I'm at the point where I can do it now so these may be the ones to jump on.

When it comes to blades this set is literally perfect. Also compared club to club with the same shaft you should see a lower and slightly flatter flight with the 18's vs the 25s for sure.

Just got my set of MP18s today. Stole them off ebay. I have a set of KBS Tours that I'm going to put in them first but if anyone has some input on shaft selection for blades, that'd be welcomed. With how cheap shafts are online and the fact I'm set up to do all the tweaking I may need at home, it's about as much fun for me to tear down and rebuild and test as it is to actually get fitted. I will likely end up going somewhere eventually but I don't mind trying things on my own either, especially since I have my set of 25s fitted and sitting there ready to use.

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 08:57 AM

how have the wedges been??? Interested in S18 wedges

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:59 AM

Update on the SCs (compared to my Apex Pro 16s).

Pros of SC vs Apex Pros:
SCs look spectacular in the bag.
Flushed shots feel incredible
Distance is the same (what I was hoping for)
Higher ball flight (beneficial for me -- I attribute this more to the Modus shaft than the head)

Cons of SC vs Apex Pros:
Off center hits suffer more in terms of feel and performance
Chunkier at address
Don't seem to glide through the turf as well (may just be different, not necessarily worse).

*These are only initial impressions.  I have over 200 rounds with the Apex Pros (Tour-V shafts) and only a few with the SCs.  I am adjusting to the larger look at address and really enjoying the Mizunos so far.  I have hit some great shots with them and feel like some good rounds are ahead!

**Also enjoying the S18 wedges.  Solid feel and performance.  Also a bit larger visually (than my SM6s).  First time I have ever matched shafts and am really loving this!

Edited by TCZ, 29 October 2017 - 10:00 AM.

Driver (10.5):  Titleist 917 D3 (Tour AD DI 6s)
4 Wood (16.5): Titleist 917 F2 (Tour AD DI 7s)
Hybrid (21):  Titleist 816H1 (Tour AD DI 85s)

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Wedges (50/54/58):   Mizuno S18 (Modus 120s)
Putter:  Miura KM-006

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#81 psmithgolfer

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 11:00 AM

View PostTCZ, on 29 October 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

Update on the SCs (compared to my Apex Pro 16s).

Pros of SC vs Apex Pros:
SCs look spectacular in the bag.
Flushed shots feel incredible
Distance is the same (what I was hoping for)
Higher ball flight (beneficial for me -- I attribute this more to the Modus shaft than the head)

Cons of SC vs Apex Pros:
Off center hits suffer more in terms of feel and performance
Chunkier at address
Don't seem to glide through the turf as well (may just be different, not necessarily worse).

*These are only initial impressions.  I have over 200 rounds with the Apex Pros (Tour-V shafts) and only a few with the SCs.  I am adjusting to the larger look at address and really enjoying the Mizunos so far.  I have hit some great shots with them and feel like some good rounds are ahead!

**Also enjoying the S18 wedges.  Solid feel and performance.  Also a bit larger visually (than my SM6s).  First time I have ever matched shafts and am really loving this!

you are saying the MP18 SC are larger than the Apex Pro at address????

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 07:52 PM

Yes.  The overall size of the heads is very similar but the top line of the SC is definitely thicker.  Makes the head seem chunkier for sure.  The sole also seems a touch wider than the Apex Pros.   A buddy at my club was admiring them today (also a lefty) and when he put his S55s next to the SC they looked like butter knives in comparison.  I wish Mizuno would have made the SCs a little more slender.....  Still really enjoying them though!
Driver (10.5):  Titleist 917 D3 (Tour AD DI 6s)
4 Wood (16.5): Titleist 917 F2 (Tour AD DI 7s)
Hybrid (21):  Titleist 816H1 (Tour AD DI 85s)

4 iron:  Titleist T-MB (Modus 120s)
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Wedges (50/54/58):   Mizuno S18 (Modus 120s)
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Posted 30 October 2017 - 06:22 PM

View Posttobybear, on 24 October 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

I got a hold of another older set of Mizunos and decided to do a few more comparison shots. Only had a 7 iron. MP18 vs MP 69

The 18 is certainly more Square but that also helps make the toe seem sharper. Top line is just a bit more beefy but not much. It's not that it's actually thicker it's just more Square.

The one thing that can't been seen is that the 18 short irons are shorter heel to toe and way less round in profile vs the 69s

I'm surprised to see how much longer the hosel is on the MP-18 than the MP-69.  That's kind of a "throw back" design that usually tends to move the sweet spot closer to the hosel.  Where are the best strikes showing up on the face?  Most of the MB type models in my collection have the sweet spot closer to the hosel, not in the center of the face.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 09:31 PM

I think with modern design the longer hosel doesnt have anywhere near the impact it used to.

If you find an older blade and compare the OD of the hosel to modern blade they are thinner which allows the club to retain the look of the long hosel with the modern day COG placement.

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 09:50 AM

View PostNoodler, on 30 October 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

View Posttobybear, on 24 October 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

I got a hold of another older set of Mizunos and decided to do a few more comparison shots. Only had a 7 iron. MP18 vs MP 69

The 18 is certainly more Square but that also helps make the toe seem sharper. Top line is just a bit more beefy but not much. It's not that it's actually thicker it's just more Square.

The one thing that can't been seen is that the 18 short irons are shorter heel to toe and way less round in profile vs the 69s

I'm surprised to see how much longer the hosel is on the MP-18 than the MP-69.  That's kind of a "throw back" design that usually tends to move the sweet spot closer to the hosel.  Where are the best strikes showing up on the face?  Most of the MB type models in my collection have the sweet spot closer to the hosel, not in the center of the face.

It must be something with the picture because I just compared my mp18 and mp69 7 iron and they have the exact same hosel length.

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 03:57 PM

View Postjetmech879, on 31 October 2017 - 09:50 AM, said:

View PostNoodler, on 30 October 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

View Posttobybear, on 24 October 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

I got a hold of another older set of Mizunos and decided to do a few more comparison shots. Only had a 7 iron. MP18 vs MP 69

The 18 is certainly more Square but that also helps make the toe seem sharper. Top line is just a bit more beefy but not much. It's not that it's actually thicker it's just more Square.

The one thing that can't been seen is that the 18 short irons are shorter heel to toe and way less round in profile vs the 69s

I'm surprised to see how much longer the hosel is on the MP-18 than the MP-69.  That's kind of a "throw back" design that usually tends to move the sweet spot closer to the hosel.  Where are the best strikes showing up on the face?  Most of the MB type models in my collection have the sweet spot closer to the hosel, not in the center of the face.

It must be something with the picture because I just compared my mp18 and mp69 7 iron and they have the exact same hosel length.

I think you're right.  If you really examine the picture closely, it looks like the MP-18 is closer to the camera than the MP-69.

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 10:14 PM

Just saw the reply here.

Sorry for not responding sooner. After taking a second look at the 69 vs the 18 the hosel lengths are very close.

I also did a comparison with my MP 64's, 32s, MP 4s and 14s and they are are quite close. BUT... like i said earlier the hosel outside diameter on the older clubs is quite a bit thicker. This more more of a camera trick because of the way I way holding them.


On a related note still LOVING my 18;s also SUPER excited that the FliHi 2 iron is off back order and ready to arrive any day now, only downside - so is the snow :( On the plus side sim golf better be ready fro some low stingers.

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 10:23 AM

Sweet SET UP!!!

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 10:41 AM

Nice review.  I too thought the MMC were a great feeling club.  I used to play the 59's and then went into the 25's two years ago and still have some life left in them.  I recently went through a fitting with all three 18 models and I thought I'd end up getting matched with the 18's or the 18 SC's, but the MMCs were the clear winner for me.  They felt so good.  I'm still not convinced I'll keep my 25's for another year because I know in the back of my mind I really want the MMCs. :)
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Posted 21 November 2017 - 10:23 PM

View Postjetmech879, on 23 October 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 23 October 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 22 October 2017 - 12:27 AM, said:

View Postjetmech879, on 21 October 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

View PostFLAis4golferz, on 21 October 2017 - 11:17 PM, said:

Went to try some driving irons and it was hands down the MP 18 Fli Hi. This thing looked, felt and sounded great. It basically feels like a chunky long iron but the toe weight almost offsets the offset and I didn't hit one left on the Trackman. Its so stable and workable and at 150 bucks, I couldn't say no. Traded is about a hundred bucks worth of old clubs and paid about 75 for it. Should be here in a week or so. Can't wait!

Got the 2 iron 1 degree flat with a TTDG X100 and a Lamkin Crossline grip

I just ordered a combo set with the 2 iron and was told the 2 was on back order and wouldn't ship for 3 weeks. I'm hoping it's sooner than that. They are sweet no doubt! I ordered 2-4 fli-hi, 5 and 6 SC, 7-pw blades.

Awesome man! The shop I bought it through ordered it on Friday. I haven't heard about the backorder but may call Monday to see if that's the case.

Play well!

Well mine is also backordered lol. He said Mizuno is getting a shipment of heads on 11/10 and my club should be delivered about a week after

I guess they are rather popular! That's a good sign!

Did you get your Fli-Hi yet? Got mine. So solid its ridiculous

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