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Mizuno MP18 Full Line - In Hand Review with Comparison Pics. Plus the BAG!


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#1 tobybear

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 09:37 PM

I'm lucky to have early access to Mizuno Product so I figured I'd take some time to review the new MP18 line, and the new Golf Bag after a full day on the course and after a range session. I've also included some comparison pictures of the MP18's vs some previous Mizunos models including MP 37's, 62's, 900 Tour, & 32's.  

About me: I'm a 4-5 handicap and swing a 6 iron around 88 mph ( measured on Track-Man ) Current irons are JPX 900 Tour with Project X LZ 6.0 which I do really love, in the past I have played or still own: MP25's, JPX-850 Forged, MP64's, MP32's, MP62's, MP37's, MP14's, MP33's. When it comes to clubs there is one piece(s) of equipment i obsess over; iron design. Which is one of the reasons I like to collect older model Mizuno irons in the first place.

Clubs I had with me:

3-4 MP18 Fli-Hi
4-6 MMC
6-7 SC
4, 8-PW Blade


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This mix of clubs allowed a good comparison with all 4 models including the long irons. I wasn't able to test on Trackman for this review but when it comes to irons in general, I'm more concerned with turf interaction, overall ball flight, feel, and control then trying to sneak an extra few yards out of something.

MP 18 Blade

First things first the MP18 blade is pure. The sole is wide enough with a perfect amount of camber that its actually forgiving and it never feels like its digging even when going down after it. Soles, especially in the short irons glide right through the dirt. These are smaller than my 900 Tours especially the shorter irons down to pitching wedge, and just as they talk about in all the promotional videos with Nick Faldo - the hosel to top line transition is PERFECT. There honestly isn't much else to say on these since most blades performance is directly related to strike. Heel and tow shots are not punished as much as you would think for a blade but still you cant be loose. They feel AMAZING! Best I've ever hit period. I also took the time to hit the 4 iron and yes it is nowhere close to the forgiveness of the MMC or the Fli-Hi but once again it wasn't as punishing as you might think. Mishit though loss carry distance fast which is exactly what you'd expect from a blade iron anyway.

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SC's

These are a slightly more forgiving version of the blade with what looks to be just a smigg thicker top-line while keeping the blade length nice and short ( basically exactly the same as the blade )along with a very straight top line. Out of the rough and from the fairway it shares performance with the blade but shots hit higher on the face are not punished quite as much thanks to the perimeter weighting. Once again these FEEL AMAZING. You want the look of a blade but need that little extra this is your winner. Controlling ball flight with this and the blade are exactly as you would imagine. Side by side you would be hard press from address to tell the SC from the Blade.


MMC

The blade may touch your soul but the MMC is going to be a biggest winner here for a LOT of people especially those who would traditionally not think of themselves as an "MP" player. Also there are a few other points to consider:
- these combo very well into the Fli-His ( remember the Fli-Hi's go all the way down to the 6 iron, YES I said 6 iron )
- for the first time, the lofts are bit stronger for an MP iron - this is a mater of design NOT juiced lofts ( thanks to the lower COG these still take of nice and high ) and spin is very controllable. It was a bit windy so I feel like I got a nice mix of shots in different directions and never saw any balloning.
- blade length is compact but once again just a thicker top line with a touch more "meat" that inspires some confidence but but no means thick. These things scream MP all day long. These are the same size to the JPX-900 tours to my eye but with slightly different lines and finish.
- Being able to compare these directly to the SC's, these don't feel as soft but they are still just as soft as my JPX-900 tours. Its like comparing a fresh marshmallow to one that had being sitting out for a couple hours - still awesome just a tiny bit less soft.
- through the turf these are comparable to the 900 Tours but with the multi-material they goes higher and further, and are noticeably more forgiving.



MP Fli-Hi

I'l make this easy " HELL-O !!! "
- I've always played some type of combo set, and 2 years ago I played the MP25's with MP H5's in the 2 & 3 iron. I didn't always use the 2 iron especially when it was wet but in the summer and depending on the course it still saw lots of action.
- The New Fli-Hi will be a standout in this category! it is the same price as a normal iron and still offers all of the technology of comparable clubs like the Srixon or the Titlesit, but I'll touch on that later. I didn't get on TrackMan yet but the distance and speed certainly appeared to be further than what my H5 was providing.

- To Compare size, the MP Fli-Hi is noticeably smaller than something like the Srixon Driving iron ( heel to toe ) which is why they blend into the other MP18 models absolutely seamlessly.
- The sole compared to the H5 is much flatter, has less camber, and is also shorter front to back plus heel to toe. This is why I prefer this design much more than the H5 because when using it off the fairway I always felt the H5 forced you to be shallower where as with the new MP18 Fli-Hi it gets through a lot faster with tons of ball speed.

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2017 - 18 Stand Bag

The new bag is the best bag they have EVER produced PERIOD. Its also a big improvement over the previous model based on a number of factors - especially the stand and the strap system. I have usually tolerated OEM bags for the branding, even with some some design flaws but there is no compromise with this:
- Straps: Comfy with plenty of adjustability.
- Stand: nice and stable, with the legs being sturdy PING like base.
- Clubs: come in and out nice and easy no bunching ( but I only used standard size grips )
- Pockets: lots of access and room for balls, rangefinder, and valuables.

- Opening: 5 dividers, with the top one being nice and BIG! this is a major factor when picking a bag since it allows for the head covers to not jam up the top, easy to pull in and out over-sized putter grips, and keeps the putter from jamming up.

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Now lets do some overview. of everything:
Blades - PURE

SC - PURE with forgiveness

MMC - Technology in a great look PLUS... compared to something from Titleist the price structure of the no up charge shafts and grips from Mizuno makes this club and the rest of the line a NO Brainer for those looking at models like the AP2's but what better value.

Fli-Hi - Driving iron with amazing turf interaction and lots of ball speed in a very compact shape ( goes down to the 6 iron if you are looking for a combo set with ball speed!! )



Comparison Pics all 6 irons compared to the SC:

MP 32
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JPX 900 Tour
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MP 62
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MP 37
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Edited by tobybear, 05 September 2017 - 09:29 AM.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 09:43 PM

thanks for posting.

what does the other side of the bag look like? how many pockets does it have? is there organization inside the pockets like pouches or other pockets?

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 09:53 PM

View PostTheShaun, on 03 September 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

thanks for posting.

what does the other side of the bag look like? how many pockets does it have? is there organization inside the pockets like pouches or other pockets?

New pictures added.

In Total the bag has 6 pockets including a valuables pouch.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 08:58 AM

Great review, makes you think of getting a new set-up, eh?! ;)
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Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:20 AM

View PostGolf64, on 04 September 2017 - 08:58 AM, said:

Great review, makes you think of getting a new set-up, eh?! ;)

As Yoda would say "Do, or do not. There is no try."

And in this case there is no thinking about it. Full Set along with new bag on its way shortly.


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:01 AM

Hit the 6 iron in the blade yesterday and loved it. Was told that this is the 1st line of Mizuno's new metal. He said that after the MP-4 their patent ran out and they have been developing this metal since the MP-4 line and this is the metal they will be using going forward. Calling it HD something.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:06 AM

I'd like to see the Trackman numbers on the 3 & 4 Fli-Hi's.  One is going in my bag for sure.  I thought the full specs were going to be up today???

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:16 AM

Nice review. I feel like these are going to be some of the best irons Mizuno has put out in a while. I'm looking forward to getting my set hopefully in a couple weeks.
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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:28 AM

Full specs (Europe anyway) are up (for mootrail) :

http://golf.mizunoeu...p-series/mp-18/

for the Fi Hi at:

http://golf.mizunoeu...-18-mmc-fli-hi/

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 12:42 PM

Tobybear, thanks for the review and pics.  What are you leaning toward?  Im leaning toward MP18 Blade 9,8,7 and SC 6,5.  Fli Hi 4

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 01:14 PM

Can anyone comment why the lofts on the Fli-Hi are stronger than standard MP lofted irons?  Would a 4 iron Fli-Hi replace and MP 3 iron loft @ 21 degrees?
One would most likely have to hit them all and compare distances.



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 02:47 PM

I am grateful for the SC 18's.  It sure would have been nice if they made the MP Fli Hi's in lefty too.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 02:52 PM

And on the 18th day, God created Mizuno and smiled, for he knew that perfection was finally achieved. God also ditched the long irons for the new FliHi clubs because he isn't a fool either.
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Posted 04 September 2017 - 02:59 PM

View Postmallrat, on 04 September 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

Hit the 6 iron in the blade yesterday and loved it. Was told that this is the 1st line of Mizuno's new metal. He said that after the MP-4 their patent ran out and they have been developing this metal since the MP-4 line and this is the metal they will be using going forward. Calling it HD something.

The story is that the metal remains unchanged. Its still 1025e carbon steel but since the Grain Flow Forging patent ran out they reinvented the process to create a more High Density way to compact the metal, especially as the metal flows from the hosel into the blade. Their website explains it really well.

As far as setup as some have asked I'm a bit of a gluten for punishment so its going to be the blades from PW all the way to the 4 iron and Fli Hi 3. . As for the rest of the set I have also considered just using the MMCs but the small profile of the Blade in  the shorter irons will be something I cant resist.

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 03:12 PM

View PostMPplayer_01, on 04 September 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

Can anyone comment why the lofts on the Fli-Hi are stronger than standard MP lofted irons?  Would a 4 iron Fli-Hi replace and MP 3 iron loft @ 21 degrees?
One would most likely have to hit them all and compare distances.



                                             Loft                                       Lie                                           Length
                                                        #2                            16.5                            59                            39.25″                                            #3                            19                            59.5                            38.75″                                            #4                            22                            60                            38.25″                                            #5                            25                            60.5

Mizuno has stated this is to allow you to bend the mmc and fli hi weak to take the offset out to match the mb and AC if you wish to combo your sets.


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 04:13 PM

I was also fortunate enough to get my hands on the mp-18s as well as the TM 790s today for a fitting. As a disclaimer: I've been working on my iron game a ton this year with some lessons as I just got back into golf seriously over the last two summers, current index 11. I really had a hard time deciding between these models as with the 790s the ball exploded off the face, 7 iron 178 carry 6 iron with 186. The mp-18s were 6-10 yards shorter with carry but probably due to the differences in loft. Both had great approach angles and stopped with about 5 yards roll out. The mp-18 definitely had a bit softer feel but were less forgiving as expected. Both were great to look at at address. Ended up with the mp 18 6-pw , and mp mmc 4 and 5 based on the tightness of my groupings. I could totally go for a 2-3 with the 790 but trying to stick with my budget. Will post some more numbers once I get them in hand.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 07:00 AM

Why doesn't the Mizuno site list stock shafts for any of their irons?  I realize you can order just about any shaft custom at no uncharge but I'm curious what shafts the clubs are being shipped with stock.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 09:45 AM

Great post and great photo comparisons.  Thanks for the write up.  I'm wondering where you landed too?

View PostZPrime, on 04 September 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

Tobybear, thanks for the review and pics. What are you leaning toward? Im leaning toward MP18 Blade 9,8,7 and SC 6,5. Fli Hi 4

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:29 AM

View Postjjl, on 05 September 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

Why doesn't the Mizuno site list stock shafts for any of their irons?  I realize you can order just about any shaft custom at no uncharge but I'm curious what shafts the clubs are being shipped with stock.

I think AMT s300 for blade, KBS Tour for SC, and Modus 120 for MMC/Fli-Hi.

View PostAjohns10, on 05 September 2017 - 09:45 AM, said:

Great post and great photo comparisons.  Thanks for the write up.  I'm wondering where you landed too?

View PostZPrime, on 04 September 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

Tobybear, thanks for the review and pics. What are you leaning toward? Im leaning toward MP18 Blade 9,8,7 and SC 6,5. Fli Hi 4

He commented above saying he was going blade in the 4-PW and Fli-Hi in the 3.  He already has a set of 900 tours that he hits well (most of the time ;)) to not worry about the SC.  I also know him well enough, that despite a quick affair with some MacGregor NVG2 Mids after I went full-on shovel a few years ago and he followed suit, he would likely never play the MMC all the way down due to the larger blade length and more offset.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:33 AM

View PostMPplayer_01, on 04 September 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

Can anyone comment why the lofts on the Fli-Hi are stronger than standard MP lofted irons?  Would a 4 iron Fli-Hi replace and MP 3 iron loft @ 21 degrees?
One would most likely have to hit them all and compare distances.



Loft    Lie    Length
#2 16.5 59 39.25″ #3 19 59.5 38.75″ #4 22 60 38.25″ #5 25 60.5

They aren't though.  They are the same loft as the MMC.  They are stronger than the SC and the blade because of their low CG and wider sole, which tends to promote a higher shot than a thin-soled iron would at the same loft.  They needed to bump the lofts a bit in order to get some semblance of playable distance out of them.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 02:22 PM

any idea on the release date for the bags? Looks awesome.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 02:22 PM

 Ajohns10, on 05 September 2017 - 09:45 AM, said:

Great post and great photo comparisons.  Thanks for the write up.  I'm wondering where you landed too?

 ZPrime, on 04 September 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

Tobybear, thanks for the review and pics. What are you leaning toward? Im leaning toward MP18 Blade 9,8,7 and SC 6,5. Fli Hi 4

Let me reply first by saying Honestly the MMC's are awesome! I would game them in a heartbeat if I was looking for something that offered that extra forgiveness in a very compact profile. Also as someone who has worked as a club fitter and builder for a long time if I was being truly honest with myself it is 100% the club that will offer me the best most consistent results - PERIOD!

But...
I just can't help but want to play blades because although I do play in the occasional tournament or for a few bucks from time to time I don't have to make a living relying on my mishits. Plus I'm a realist as far as my game goes and it's not very often I'll play a course that's too long and forces me to reply on long carries with my long irons. And if needed I'll just pull one club longer or a hybrid.

I still plan on testing everything one more time to determine my final setup but based on what I saw when testing the Mp18 blade 4 iron along with the other models yes by far there was an improvement with the MCC - they go higher and produce better results on mishits but a well struck shot will always be a well struck shot. And I just really want to play blades.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 02:39 PM

Nice review.

I tried the Mp18 blade demo club at my local range last week - was vey nice, but I preferred the feel and if I am honest the more full/solid feedback from my 965s.

Have played with blades my entire golfing life - the MP18 blade head was very small to me; but I still hit it well; paired with the Nippon Pro Modus shaft.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 01:30 PM

Did some final testing today and I have my iron set finalized.

MP 18 ( Blade ) 4-PW with the Fli-Hi 3i.

The next piece will be trying to figure out whether or not to play the CLK in the 16 as my 5 wood and then Have the Fli-Hi 2i as a spare club to mix in with the other gear.

Through the turf all 4 models including the MMC and the Fli-Hi are awesome - even the Fli-Hi 6 iron ( look out this could be a sleeper in a mixed set ) because the size just blends so well. But I just love the tiny compact look in the short irons too much. Flowing into wedges these things are perfect.

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#25 Chuck905

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:46 PM

Coming from the 900T, the SC and MMC felt to be game improvement and super game improvement irons respectively.

I really do like the look of the 18 blade and will give them another side by side session vs the 900T; albeit with the correct shaft.

Edited by Chuck905, 08 September 2017 - 10:47 PM.


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:46 AM

Loved the MP59, played well with those, and I love the way they have carried that technology forward with the MP15 and now the MP18 MMC. Could do without the 'tungsten' and 'titanium' branding on the back of the clubhead -- it really is not necessary -- but they do not look game improvement to me. Really like the design. The whole lineup is sharp.

Mizunos are such precise clubs and fun to play. I seem to really be a good fit for their low- to mid-bounce designs and I like Mizuno sole grinds.

I already have a few sets of other blades. In this one, ordered #5 Fli-Hi, 6-7 in MMC with the 7 iron bent one degree weak, 8-PW Split Cavity. For shaft I opted for Nippon Modus 120 stiff, hard-stepped. Golf Pride CP2 Tour Wrap grips, my favorite and what I always want these days.

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TM M1 440 Tour Issue, 10-degree, Diamana B Series X,
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(Coming: Srixon z565 4 iron, z965 5-P, C Taper Lite X.)
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 03:29 AM

Excelent review, Tobybear. Thanks

I am very interested in your feedback regarding the comparisson between Srixon U65 and MP18 Fli Hi. Planning to replace my 4 iron (MP25) and hit the Srixon, which i liked, but not the mizzy yet.

"The New Fli-Hi will be a standout in this category! it is the same price as a normal iron and still offers all of the technology of comparable clubs like the Srixon or the Titlesit, but I'll touch on that later. I didn't get on TrackMan yet but the distance and speed certainly appeared to be further than what my H5 was providing."
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 06:41 AM

Great review.  Might swap out my 900 tours for a combo set

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 08:57 AM

Awesome review!

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 01:14 PM

 mortimer, on 09 September 2017 - 03:29 AM, said:

Excelent review, Tobybear. Thanks

I am very interested in your feedback regarding the comparisson between Srixon U65 and MP18 Fli Hi. Planning to replace my 4 iron (MP25) and hit the Srixon, which i liked, but not the mizzy yet.

"The New Fli-Hi will be a standout in this category! it is the same price as a normal iron and still offers all of the technology of comparable clubs like the Srixon or the Titlesit, but I'll touch on that later. I didn't get on TrackMan yet but the distance and speed certainly appeared to be further than what my H5 was providing."

I'm an honest guy.. the Srixon is a great club but if you compare it to the New Fli-Hi it is quite a bit bigger.

The blade length and the top line are bigger in general on the U65  and the sole is longer with less camber leading edge to flange.

The FliHi has the blade length around the size of the sc and mmc while also keeping the top line very straight any very thin. If you don't know this was a hollow driving iron style club, from address you'd have a very hard time knowing without picking it up. With the smaller more cambered sole the Fli-Hi really gets through the turf



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