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Unable to get hips open at impact


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#31 Kball10

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:43 PM

View Postmoonshine, on 07 September 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

Skip rocks at your favorite pond as much as you can and mimic that move on the range.  Also, hitting into that net would run me nuts.  I would rather hit 50 balls and see it than wonder about it all night hitting into a net.

No longer have to hit into net. I live in Florida now and can play year round. I also have a GC2 for indoor practice.  Thanks for the advice.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:29 AM

looks like you are casting the club a tad so your  weight isn't moving to your left side correctly from the vid.
You will have to transfer weight to the left foot and use your  left heel to clear the left hip whiles rolling your right foot inward to clear the right hip. This should happen before your club shaft gets parallel to the target line on downswing. Obviously not a flexibility issue. You are more than supple.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:45 AM

I like this idea of skipping rocks. Helps get the hips cleared and create space for the arms to travel on the down swing.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:01 AM

View PostMan_O_War, on 08 September 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:

looks like you are casting the club a tad so your  weight isn't moving to your left side correctly from the vid.
You will have to transfer weight to the left foot and use your  left heel to clear the left hip whiles rolling your right foot inward to clear the right hip. This should happen before your club shaft gets parallel to the target line on downswing. Obviously not a flexibility issue. You are more than supple.

Thanks for the feedback. I have played golf for many years and really only have understood the proper movement over the last few months. I have never used my hips properly, but did not understand what I needed to do differently.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:24 AM

View PostKball10, on 08 September 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

View PostMan_O_War, on 08 September 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:

looks like you are casting the club a tad so your  weight isn't moving to your left side correctly from the vid.
You will have to transfer weight to the left foot and use your  left heel to clear the left hip whiles rolling your right foot inward to clear the right hip. This should happen before your club shaft gets parallel to the target line on downswing. Obviously not a flexibility issue. You are more than supple.

Thanks for the feedback. I have played golf for many years and really only have understood the proper movement over the last few months. I have never used my hips properly, but did not understand what I needed to do differently.

join the club.. been relying on athletic ability for decades... much better now that i am paying attention to technique...also easier on the body long term

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:53 AM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 03 September 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

View PostKball10, on 03 September 2017 - 08:16 AM, said:



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There are a few reasons you aren't getting Your hips more open.

Turn is too flat as a result of flat shoulder turn, right knee maintaining too much flex and wrist rolling instead of hanging.  In transition your arms trail your rotation and you have to stop rotating to let arms catch up.  

If your hips got More open, you wouldn't be a very good golfer.  As it's stands, you are probably a decent golfer.

This still pretty much tells the tale.

This is very alike my position on the downswing, right elbow behind hip. I like the sound of the skipping stones analogy, would this be akin to Monte's right elbow chasing the belly button feel?

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:39 AM

The only thing I don't like about the skipping stones, is that it only uses one arm. How would you skip a stone with 2 arms? Just hold the stone with the right hand and hold the right wrist with the left hand? I suppose you could do this with a golf ball into a net.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:24 PM

View PostPJ72, on 08 September 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

The only thing I don't like about the skipping stones, is that it only uses one arm. How would you skip a stone with 2 arms? Just hold the stone with the right hand and hold the right wrist with the left hand? I suppose you could do this with a golf ball into a net.
Just a vision thing...feel...helps with sequence IMO.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:14 PM

View PostKball10, on 03 September 2017 - 08:16 AM, said:



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Run, don't walk, over to the Arm Swing Illusion thread from Jim Waldron.  There's a reason it's a sticky thread at the top of the instruction forum. ;)

Yes, it's a monster thread, but at least watch the freely available Arm Swing Illusion videos on YouTube and see if it turns on a light bulb or two.  You can then decide if you want to invest in Jim's longer length training videos.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 01:10 PM

View PostPJ72, on 08 September 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

The only thing I don't like about the skipping stones, is that it only uses one arm. How would you skip a stone with 2 arms? Just hold the stone with the right hand and hold the right wrist with the left hand? I suppose you could do this with a golf ball into a net.
This has always troubled me too.When you throw a rock sideways your left arm is on the complete opposite side of your body throughout the motion.When you bring the left arm over and meld the two hands together it changes the entire feeling.That left arm is getting "in the way" instead of already being "out of the way" in a throwing motion.

I guess I can sort of see that it would help as a feel for a better overall motion but it is certainly far from being an exact motion as a golf swing.Again,when the arms are together it changes the whole muscle orientation of the upper body.You can't just freely swing the right arm because the left is creating a resistance against it .Just been my experience with it so far.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 01:50 PM

View Postmoonshine, on 08 September 2017 - 12:24 PM, said:

View PostPJ72, on 08 September 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

The only thing I don't like about the skipping stones, is that it only uses one arm. How would you skip a stone with 2 arms? Just hold the stone with the right hand and hold the right wrist with the left hand? I suppose you could do this with a golf ball into a net.
Just a vision thing...feel...helps with sequence IMO.

This ... like most other golf tips.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:03 PM

It looks like both of your feet are straight or 90 degrees to target at setup. Try setting up with your left foot 45 degrees open to target. This will make it a lot easier to keep the rotation going through the swing. I got this tip in a lesson earlier this year. Good luck!

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 08:13 PM

View PostSuperSwede28, on 12 September 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

It looks like both of your feet are straight or 90 degrees to target at setup. Try setting up with your left foot 45 degrees open to target. This will make it a lot easier to keep the rotation going through the swing. I got this tip in a lesson earlier this year. Good luck!

Thanks - good tip. I have started doing this now as I am working on some changes.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:44 AM

Left shoulder / hip down more on the backswing, lose the flex in the right knee

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