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P790 UDI's - Any news on these vs the full set p790s?


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#691 Sef

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:45 PM

I have not hit the DG 120. I play X100’s as well and would love to hear your feedback.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:57 AM

View PostSef, on 16 May 2018 - 11:45 PM, said:

I have not hit the DG 120. I play X100’s as well and would love to hear your feedback.
I’ll let you know

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:14 AM

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View PostSef, on 16 May 2018 - 11:45 PM, said:

I have not hit the DG 120. I play X100s as well and would love to hear your feedback.
Ill let you know

I considered the 120 also since I play TI x100s but then played it and it worked fine with the standard x100
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:15 AM

View PostSef, on 16 May 2018 - 11:45 PM, said:

I have not hit the DG 120. I play X100s as well and would love to hear your feedback.
i have dg120s x100 in my 18 x forged. They play very similar to standard x100s just a lot easier to swing.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:22 AM

I too found the HZRDUS 85 overly light and didn't lend itself to the consistency you would expect from a club like this. Launch characteristics were pretty spot on so the next experiment is going to be Tour Green 105. Should give pretty similar launch/spin with a little more weight compared to HZRDUS 85. I also tried 120 gram steel and didn't like it at 40" just a little too heavy feeling to be versatile as my only club between 3 wood and longest iron. At 39.5" it would have felt perfect but loses a little distance and the ability to hit the high long one into par 5's. The head is low launch and spin so at shorter lengths and heavier weight it becomes a one dimensional stinger club for me. Stronger swingers with tendency towards high launch/spin would probably love that set up, though.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:20 AM

Anyone have the pro white tx hybrid in this?
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:48 PM

Yes, I have the Pro White 100TX in mine and it’s great.

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 11:25 PM

Yep I have the 100tx as well. Love it. Came in very light SW wise. I have the entire back of the club head loaded with lead tape to get it to D4 and I play it 1/2 long.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:31 AM

Just got lucky and found a new one on eBay for $215 in my specs (x flex). Question is are these .355 taper just Incase I dont get along with the lighter hzrds shaft?
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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:42 AM

View PostBlakeBstone, on 19 May 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:

Just got lucky and found a new one on eBay for $215 in my specs (x flex). Question is are these .355 taper just Incase I don't get along with the lighter hzrds shaft?

Yes, .355 taper but shaving down a .370 hybrid shaft is not unheard of.

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:52 AM

View PostJJK947, on 19 May 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

View PostBlakeBstone, on 19 May 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:

Just got lucky and found a new one on eBay for $215 in my specs (x flex). Question is are these .355 taper just Incase I don't get along with the lighter hzrds shaft?

Yes, .355 taper but shaving down a .370 hybrid shaft is not unheard of.
Yes, play a hybrid shaft in my current Bridgestone air muscle that I turned on my belt sander. Thanks
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Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:24 AM

I hit this OK with the HZRDUS black 85X but i feel it has alot more in it with a different shaft. I agree the 85X feels exceptionally light and has a tendency to balloon slightly on me. might see if i can find someone to put a D+ 100X in it or something similar.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:26 PM

View PostSef, on 16 May 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:

View PostMorry, on 16 May 2018 - 05:07 AM, said:

View PostSef, on 15 May 2018 - 10:57 PM, said:

I have tried but still hate the shaft. Either returning it or putting it on the BST and will order one with steel.

It’s odd, my King Utility at 19.5 is carrying 17 yards farther with a much better land angle and in contrast to initial testing is producing about 3mph more ball speed on trackman than my 17* UDI. It is 100% due to the shaft. SW is too low and I just don’t swing it as confidently.

On the other hand, the King covers the gap between 3w and 4i well so I may just call the UDI a failed experiment if I can’t find a more tip soft shaft that is both heavier and a better fit for my swing.

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FG Tour V6 4i (23*, X100) - Carry 243, total 260.5

King UT (19.5, Rogue 85 X) - Carry 252.9, total 272.1, Land angle 40*

P790 UDI (Stock specs) - Carry 235.6, Total 264.9, land angle 28.2*

I know there is a lot more potential in the UDI, I just need to elevate it more. Launch angle of 8.8* means these are basically stingers. I deloft the club a lot and I think a heavier more tip soft shaft would bring this thing to life, but with the King working well I don’t want to spend too much time or money on this.
what are the swing weights on these various clubs?
very impressive # from King with Rogue black

Cobra is D4, 4i is D5, UDI is D0. I know the SW is the primary issue, but the shaft itself feels bad to me.

More than anything this is probably an example of how much swing weight matters. Would be interesting to see your smash factors.

I get mine this weekend playing 40.25”, standard loft/lie, and Graphite Design Tour AD Utility Driving Iron shaft in 95X flex. Little Dallas golf vacation so should be a nice test! Have never loved long irons like I love these, so very excited to try the UDI.

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Posted 23 May 2018 - 02:40 PM

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Installed this into mine.  Different animal vs HZRDUS 85.  At 40” it comes in heavy at D7 so I’m going to trim it a bit after testing it.  But more consistent dispersion and flight with this in.
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Posted 24 May 2018 - 06:51 PM

View Postadam.byrne, on 22 May 2018 - 10:26 PM, said:

View PostSef, on 16 May 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:

View PostMorry, on 16 May 2018 - 05:07 AM, said:

View PostSef, on 15 May 2018 - 10:57 PM, said:

I have tried but still hate the shaft. Either returning it or putting it on the BST and will order one with steel.

It’s odd, my King Utility at 19.5 is carrying 17 yards farther with a much better land angle and in contrast to initial testing is producing about 3mph more ball speed on trackman than my 17* UDI. It is 100% due to the shaft. SW is too low and I just don’t swing it as confidently.

On the other hand, the King covers the gap between 3w and 4i well so I may just call the UDI a failed experiment if I can’t find a more tip soft shaft that is both heavier and a better fit for my swing.

Trackman #’s

FG Tour V6 4i (23*, X100) - Carry 243, total 260.5

King UT (19.5, Rogue 85 X) - Carry 252.9, total 272.1, Land angle 40*

P790 UDI (Stock specs) - Carry 235.6, Total 264.9, land angle 28.2*

I know there is a lot more potential in the UDI, I just need to elevate it more. Launch angle of 8.8* means these are basically stingers. I deloft the club a lot and I think a heavier more tip soft shaft would bring this thing to life, but with the King working well I don’t want to spend too much time or money on this.
what are the swing weights on these various clubs?
very impressive # from King with Rogue black

Cobra is D4, 4i is D5, UDI is D0. I know the SW is the primary issue, but the shaft itself feels bad to me.

More than anything this is probably an example of how much swing weight matters. Would be interesting to see your smash factors.

I get mine this weekend playing 40.25”, standard loft/lie, and Graphite Design Tour AD Utility Driving Iron shaft in 95X flex. Little Dallas golf vacation so should be a nice test! Have never loved long irons like I love these, so very excited to try the UDI.

Yeah SW is critical, to me more than most as I am a feel player and very sensitive to any changes in the feel in my clubs. My point was my preferred SW of D4 is unattainable with this shaft. I can add lead tape to the head to get it there but then this shaft would play even softer, and it is too soft already, just not a good fit for me.

As to smash Trackman was doing a pretty poor job on picking up club head speed but avg was 1.52 for the P790 and 1.49 for the King. These figures are not accurate, just incorrect CHS readings.

**Edit - Rereading the post it did not come across with the intended tone. Changed so as not to sound like a jerk.

Edited by Sef, 24 May 2018 - 10:39 PM.

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Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:53 PM

I briefly tried it at a TM demo day last weekend. It felt light with the hazardous shaft. My driver swing speed is about touching 110 now and all I could hit was low flat knuckle balls. Perfect for a windy day but that maybe it.

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Posted 27 May 2018 - 08:01 AM

Took a P790 UDi our today (HZRDUS 6.0) to see how it compares to my P790 3 iron (built to 2 iron length with PX LZ 6.0)

No purchase for me....I was hitting the 3 iron further and higher than the UDi and it seems easier to hit too, plus its hittable off the deck too!
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Posted 27 May 2018 - 11:00 AM

There was a lot of excitement and anticipation before the announcement of the P-790 UDI, but now that people finally have the club in their hands, it's no surprise that some are disappointed in it. (You can read why in some of the preceding posts)... :read:

I have said from the beginning it would be quite a challenge for the 790 UDi '2-iron' to be better than TM's original UDI lineup.  After all, the original TM UDI effort was a dedicated driving iron design with (5) different lofts to choose from, rather than just a set-matching 2-iron' with a UDI stamp and graphite shaft.  Perhaps that key design difference will now be better understood and appreciated!

Long live the original UDI lineup which included both the Tour Preferred UDI as well as the RSI TP stamped UDI driving irons, #1 thru #5 available in the original design, with a range of lofts, (16* to 26*).

The original TaylorMade UDI's are clearly not just a 17* graphite-shafted '2-iron' with the letters 'UDI' stamped on it!
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Posted 27 May 2018 - 12:45 PM

View Postbobcat, on 27 May 2018 - 11:00 AM, said:

There was a lot of excitement and anticipation before the announcement of the P-790 UDI, but now that people have the club in their hands, it's no surprise that some are disappointed.  I have said from the beginning it would be quite a challenge for the 790 UDi '2-iron' to be as good as TM's original UDI lineup.  Atter all, the original TM UDI effort was a dedicated driving iron design with (5) different lofts to choose from, rather than a set-matching 2-iron' with a UDI stamp and graphite shaft.  Perhaps that key design difference will be better understood and more fully appreciated now!

Long live the original UDI lineup which included both the Tour Preferred and the RSI TP stamped driving irons, #1 thru #5, and covered a range of lofts, (16* to 26*).

The original UDI is still the 'ultimate' driving iron!  Attachment UDI.jpg

I have had them all and the P790 is the best of the bunch hands down, not even close.  For me at least...

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Posted 27 May 2018 - 02:51 PM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 27 May 2018 - 12:45 PM, said:

View Postbobcat, on 27 May 2018 - 11:00 AM, said:

There was a lot of excitement and anticipation before the announcement of the P-790 UDI, but now that people have the club in their hands, it's no surprise that some are disappointed.  I have said from the beginning it would be quite a challenge for the 790 UDi '2-iron' to be as good as TM's original UDI lineup.  Atter all, the original TM UDI effort was a dedicated driving iron design with (5) different lofts to choose from, rather than a set-matching 2-iron' with a UDI stamp and graphite shaft.  Perhaps that key design difference will be better understood and more fully appreciated now!

Long live the original UDI lineup which included both the Tour Preferred and the RSI TP stamped driving irons, #1 thru #5, and covered a range of lofts, (16* to 26*).

The original UDI is still the 'ultimate' driving iron!  Attachment UDI.jpg

I have had them all and the P790 is the best of the bunch hands down, not even close.  For me at least...

Same for me. I tested my p790 with x100 and it out preformed my Tm udi with a 105x. The 790 udi is more workable for me and longer. When I drove a 290 yard par 4 with a 2 iron it was a keeper. Im able to its a running draw to get that kind of yardage and then hit a fade where I couldnt do it as easily with the other udi and I like the older Tm udi a lot.

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Posted 27 May 2018 - 10:10 PM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 27 May 2018 - 12:45 PM, said:

View Postbobcat, on 27 May 2018 - 11:00 AM, said:

There was a lot of excitement and anticipation before the announcement of the P-790 UDI, but now that people have the club in their hands, it's no surprise that some are disappointed.  I have said from the beginning it would be quite a challenge for the 790 UDi '2-iron' to be as good as TM's original UDI lineup.  Atter all, the original TM UDI effort was a dedicated driving iron design with (5) different lofts to choose from, rather than a set-matching 2-iron' with a UDI stamp and graphite shaft.  Perhaps that key design difference will be better understood and more fully appreciated now!

Long live the original UDI lineup which included both the Tour Preferred and the RSI TP stamped driving irons, #1 thru #5, and covered a range of lofts, (16* to 26*).

The original UDI is still the 'ultimate' driving iron!  Attachment UDI.jpg

I have had them all and the P790 is the best of the bunch hands down, not even close.  For me at least...

Lol new model is superior in every way and easier to bend specs too. Nice try tho
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:55 AM

Anyone on the fence about these had better decide quick!

Heard from a reliable source that these are now discontinued by TM so stock may become scarce soon!
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:14 AM

I hate the HZRDUS hybrid shaft.  I just picked up a Tensei white 90TX to try in it.
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:20 AM

View PostSef, on 16 May 2018 - 11:45 PM, said:

I have not hit the DG 120. I play X100’s as well and would love to hear your feedback.

View Postchch3, on 07 June 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

I hate the HZRDUS hybrid shaft.  I just picked up a Tensei white 90TX to try in it.
It took a while, but finally got my DG 120 X100 installed.  Feels amazing, huge improvement over the HZRDUS 85 (for me).  I couldn't tell much of a difference from the regular DG X100's I have in my irons.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 09:32 AM

View Postchch3, on 07 June 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

I hate the HZRDUS hybrid shaft.  I just picked up a Tensei white 90TX to try in it.

Tiger effect....


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 11:30 AM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 07 June 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

View Postchch3, on 07 June 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

I hate the HZRDUS hybrid shaft.  I just picked up a Tensei white 90TX to try in it.

Tiger effect....

Nah been thinking about it for a while.  Just found a good deal yesterday on one and finally pulled the trigger.
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 11:55 AM

Ordered one yesterday with a delivery date of 2 July is what I was told.  So hoping they are not discontinued.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 07:00 PM

I have one with Hzrdus and hate the shaft but love the head, so I ordered another one with the C Taper Lite 115 X. Used a promo code through a dealer on eBay and got it for $140 shipped. July delivery though, so probably still hitting the King Utility until then.
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 07:57 PM

View PostSef, on 07 June 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

I have one with Hzrdus and hate the shaft but love the head, so I ordered another one with the C Taper Lite 115 X. Used a promo code through a dealer on eBay and got it for $140 shipped. July delivery though, so probably still hitting the King Utility until then.

Why not just buy the shaft, swap it out and have it in the bag the next round you play?
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:41 PM

Because I hit the King well and can return the original one to get $230 back rather than sink another $60 or so into it. I could have $140 in it or $290, easy decision when it is not a club I need. Just a luxury club to use instead of my 4w when I feel like it.

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