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Web.com 2017 Playoffs! (4 weeks of action-25 cards)


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#1 snizzle

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:00 PM

Yes it's hard to believe but it's that time of year again.  The Web.com playoffs will begin this Thursday in Columbus, Ohio.  As a quick recap 25 cards were already given out over the course of the Web.com season that was just completed this past weekend.  TBH this was a bit of an uninspiring regular season.  There were no Ollie Schneiderjans or Wesley Bryan types this year although Beau Hossler did win his card playing less than half the events which is an accomplishment (or maybe just indicates the tour was a bit weaker this season.).  A bunch of bulldog types such as Andrew Landry, Sam Ryder, Stephen Jaeger, Nate Lashley, Austin Cook, Abraham Ancer earned their cards.  Two players became the first Chinese born players to earn status thru the Web.  Chesson Hadley also earned his card back.  Seasoned vet Brice Garnett won the regular season money list.  Next year promises to have more younger talent as the Walker Cup kids and a few other up and comers should be on the tour next summer.

These playoffs however have the potential to be quite compelling.  25 additional cards will be handed out at the conclusion of the 4 week playoffs series with the top 25 money earners from the playoffs gaining (or re-gaining their cards in some cases).  Players such as Bryson DeChambeau, Xander Schauffele, Andrew Johnston, Emiliano Grillo, and Cameron Smith have earned their cards thru the playoffs the past two years.

The playoffs will consist of:
1. Players that finished 1-75 on the Web.com money list.  The top 25 already earned cards but the money earned during the Finals goes into a separate bucket which will determine final priority ranking for the PGA.

2. Players that finished 126-200 on the PGA FedEx point list.  These players missed the FedEx playoffs but still earned enough points to play in the Web.com Finals.

3. PGA Non Members that earned enough FedEx points equivalent to 125-200 on the money list.  This is how Beef qualified for the playoffs last year.

Names of note that will be competing:
(PGA 125-200 ranked players)
Daniel Summerhays
Alex Cejka
Ben Crane
Matt Jones
John Peterson
Zac Blair
Cameron Tringale
Greg Owen
Spencer Levin
Kyle Reifers
Ryo Ishikawa

(Non Members)
Peter Uihlein
Curtis Luck


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:05 PM

I miss Q school.  Best reality TV show, ever.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:20 PM

I'm heading to Columbus this weekend to watch the Nationwide Children's Hospital Web event at OSU's Scarlet Course. Looking forward to seeing some of these guys battle to gain/regain their card.
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Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:56 PM

View PostAceCatKY, on 28 August 2017 - 12:20 PM, said:

I'm heading to Columbus this weekend to watch the Nationwide Children's Hospital Web event at OSU's Scarlet Course. Looking forward to seeing some of these guys battle to gain/regain their card.

Let us know how it goes Ace.  A few of the guys that finished near the top of the leaderboard in Columbus last year had really good PGA seasons.

Personally I'm a bit surprised to see Summerhays in the Web playoffs.  The guy made the Sunday Final grouping two times this year too.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 06:29 AM

View PostDavePelz4, on 28 August 2017 - 12:05 PM, said:

I miss Q school.  Best reality TV show, ever.

I actually find these playoffs more exciting than the FedEx playoffs. Something more 'real' about trying to gain a tour card.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 02:03 PM

View PostKennyP, on 29 August 2017 - 06:29 AM, said:

View PostDavePelz4, on 28 August 2017 - 12:05 PM, said:

I miss Q school.  Best reality TV show, ever.

I actually find these playoffs more exciting than the FedEx playoffs. Something more 'real' about trying to gain a tour card.

Totally agree, the final event in Portland last week was way more exciting to me that the Fedex Cup event...not even close...much more on the line, including Tour cards and retaining/losing web status for next season.
For example, Alex Kang, brother of Danielle had a great start to the season, but barely made a cut in the middle of the year. He went from about 30th early in the year to 81st at the start of Portland. He shot 65 Sunday and that projected him at 71, good enough to get to the playoffs and at least retain his card on the Web tour next season. With every birdie and bogey from players still on the course his position moved between 71 and 80 all day, with a couple of players late in the day sealing his fate at 78, therefore his season over and its back to Q School. Exciting stuff.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 02:11 PM

Just had a quick look at the course and wow the 4 par 3's are 233,221,221 and 202 yards and the 3 par 5's are 562,575 and 618 yards. That's brutal for the short/average hitters this week, I'm not sure how they pick the four courses for the playoffs but I'd hope they have a good cross section of difficulty and length.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:04 PM

View PostMick Douglas, on 29 August 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

Just had a quick look at the course and wow the 4 par 3's are 233,221,221 and 202 yards and the 3 par 5's are 562,575 and 618 yards. That's brutal for the short/average hitters this week, I'm not sure how they pick the four courses for the playoffs but I'd hope they have a good cross section of difficulty and length.
I played the course last Thursday and it kicked my rear end. Found too many bunkers and my sand game has not been very good.
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I doubt they have the par 3s tipped out everyday also.
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:37 PM

Yes, the web.com finals might be my favorite sporting event because of what's on the line. I watch several guys I have some sort of tie to or interest in, including Ricky Barnes, who I thought had a pretty good year. Finished with 700k of earnings, which apparently is only 139th. So will be pulling for him to keep his card for 2018.
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:59 PM

Will be interesting to see if Hunter Mahan can find some form and secure some type of status for next season.

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:20 AM

If you are in the Web playoffs you have, by default, secured full status on the Web tour for 2018 at the very least.

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:43 PM

Noticed Matthew Southgate entered in first tournament due to his top 10 at the Open

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:59 PM

Notable players:
  • Americans: Peter Uihlein, Daniel Summerhays, Roberto Castro, Sam Ryder, Hunter Mahan.
  • Latin Americans: Andrés Romero, Abraham Ancer, Sebastián Muñoz, Rafael Campos, Guillermo "Mito" Pereira, Julián Etulain, Augusto Núñez, Roberto Díaz, Carlos Ortiz.
  • Aus / NZ: Scott Hend, Matt Jones, Curtis Luck, Cameron Percy, Rhein Gibson, Tim Wilkinson, Steven Alker, Stuart Appleby.
  • Asians: Ryo Ishikawa, Kyounghoon Lee, Donghwan Lee.
  • Europeans: Matthew Southgate, Stephan Jaeger, Alex Cejka, Gonzalo Fernández-Castaño.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:12 AM

I watched a lot of the coverage on Thursday.   Not that great a job.  They showed way too much Mahan and Barnes.   And it was strange that they did not have graphics besides the players name showing their standings or projected  standings.
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:19 AM

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I miss Q school.  Best reality TV show, ever.

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:24 AM

So if I'm reading the OP correctly, next year's priority status is determined solely by the results of these four tournaments?  

If so, it seems (to me anyway) to diminish the entire season a bit. Guy could win the Web.com season long money list, then go really cold in this four week stretch and struggle to get any starts. Wasn't the Q school change basically for this reason? They wanted to reward season long excellence as opposed to a guy getting hot for six rounds?
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:38 AM

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So if I'm reading the OP correctly, next year's priority status is determined solely by the results of these four tournaments?  

If so, it seems (to me anyway) to diminish the entire season a bit. Guy could win the Web.com season long money list, then go really cold in this four week stretch and struggle to get any starts. Wasn't the Q school change basically for this reason? They wanted to reward season long excellence as opposed to a guy getting hot for six rounds?

Top 25 in season-long money list get cards too.
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:42 AM

For me this event is more interesting than the Dell, careers on the line and shows how amazing golf can be, some of these blokes are millionaires and are struggling at their chosen profession for various reasons. I mean look at Appleby, won $30 million on tour and a huge pension fund yet out there flogging it against blokes half his age and Ricky Barnes got more than enough cash could retire now but wants a tour card next year.

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 09:03 AM

View PostAceCatKY, on 01 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 01 September 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

So if I'm reading the OP correctly, next year's priority status is determined solely by the results of these four tournaments?  

If so, it seems (to me anyway) to diminish the entire season a bit. Guy could win the Web.com season long money list, then go really cold in this four week stretch and struggle to get any starts. Wasn't the Q school change basically for this reason? They wanted to reward season long excellence as opposed to a guy getting hot for six rounds?

Top 25 in season-long money list get cards too.

I know they got their cards, I'm just commenting on how they determine priority for getting starts next season.
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 09:09 AM

Peter Uihlein has to be the one of, if not the best player to play in the Web Tour Finals ever right?

Reminds me of what Beef did last year, playing Euro Tour and then getting PGA card via Finals

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 10:35 AM

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 01 September 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

So if I'm reading the OP correctly, next year's priority status is determined solely by the results of these four tournaments?  

If so, it seems (to me anyway) to diminish the entire season a bit. Guy could win the Web.com season long money list, then go really cold in this four week stretch and struggle to get any starts. Wasn't the Q school change basically for this reason? They wanted to reward season long excellence as opposed to a guy getting hot for six rounds?

OP is not quite right, the overall winner and fully exempt status next year on the PGA tour uses combined money from the regular season + playoffs.

Another fully exempt spot is for the player who wins the playoffs alone.

More here: http://www.pgatour.c...our-finals.html

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 10:56 AM

Uihlein must have a great shout at getting his card, he has had a solid season in Europe. Nice to see him back playing and playing well after a few injuries which really seemed to hamper his progress.
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 11:00 AM

View Postjdl, on 01 September 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 01 September 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

So if I'm reading the OP correctly, next year's priority status is determined solely by the results of these four tournaments?  

If so, it seems (to me anyway) to diminish the entire season a bit. Guy could win the Web.com season long money list, then go really cold in this four week stretch and struggle to get any starts. Wasn't the Q school change basically for this reason? They wanted to reward season long excellence as opposed to a guy getting hot for six rounds?

OP is not quite right, the overall winner and fully exempt status next year on the PGA tour uses combined money from the regular season + playoffs.

Another fully exempt spot is for the player who wins the playoffs alone.

More here: http://www.pgatour.c...our-finals.html

Thanks, that makes more sense.
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 11:02 AM

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 01 September 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

View PostAceCatKY, on 01 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 01 September 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

So if I'm reading the OP correctly, next year's priority status is determined solely by the results of these four tournaments?  

If so, it seems (to me anyway) to diminish the entire season a bit. Guy could win the Web.com season long money list, then go really cold in this four week stretch and struggle to get any starts. Wasn't the Q school change basically for this reason? They wanted to reward season long excellence as opposed to a guy getting hot for six rounds?

Top 25 in season-long money list get cards too.

I know they got their cards, I'm just commenting on how they determine priority for getting starts next season.

It's a complicated system that was too wordy for my OP.
The winner of the regular season gets full status on the PGA Tour including the Players for 2017-18. The top 25 get PGA cards.
The winner of the playoffs gets full status on the PGA next season also including entry into the Players. The top 25 get cards.
After the additional 25 cards are determined in the playoffs they basically alternate/shuffle the players based on $ earned between both lists (regular season and playoffs) to determine the priority for the 50.   At the end the guys who played both regular season and playoffs can combine their money into one pot to help their seeding.

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 11:06 AM

View Postsnizzle, on 01 September 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 01 September 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

View PostAceCatKY, on 01 September 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 01 September 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

So if I'm reading the OP correctly, next year's priority status is determined solely by the results of these four tournaments?  

If so, it seems (to me anyway) to diminish the entire season a bit. Guy could win the Web.com season long money list, then go really cold in this four week stretch and struggle to get any starts. Wasn't the Q school change basically for this reason? They wanted to reward season long excellence as opposed to a guy getting hot for six rounds?

Top 25 in season-long money list get cards too.

I know they got their cards, I'm just commenting on how they determine priority for getting starts next season.

It's a complicated system that was too wordy for my OP.
The winner of the regular season gets full status on the PGA Tour including the Players for 2017-18. The top 25 get PGA cards.
The winner of the playoffs gets full status on the PGA next season also including entry into the Players. The top 25 get cards.
After the additional 25 cards are determined in the playoffs they basically alternate/shuffle the players based on $ earned between both lists (regular season and playoffs) to determine the priority for the 50.   At the end the guys who played both regular season and playoffs can combine their money into one pot to help their seeding.

Thanks, appreciate the added information from everybody.

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 11:10 AM

I'm personally rooting for Uihlein, Curtis Luck, and Keith Mitchell.  Mitchell is super long hitter that finished 26th during the regular season missing his card in Portland last week in heartbreaking fashion.  I believe all 3 could have nice success on the PGA if given the opportunity.  Taylor Moore is another kid with some talent who just graduated from Arkansas last year.

Ohio State alum and journeyman vet Ryan Armour might have an advantage this week in Columbus.  Alex Cejka is another vet who has gotten off to a nice start this weekend.

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 11:46 AM

Would like to see John Peterson get in to form but he will miss cut. Hopefully Uihlein and Luck will do well too. Mahan would be interesting to see back as well.
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 09:41 PM

It's weird watching Hunter Mahan and Ben Crane fighting to get back onto the PGA Tour.  Seems like yesterday they were with Rickie and Bubba filming Golf Boys videos.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 08:22 AM

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 01 September 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

So if I'm reading the OP correctly, next year's priority status is determined solely by the results of these four tournaments?  

If so, it seems (to me anyway) to diminish the entire season a bit.

The top 25 players in the Web.com Tour regulr season get priority based on earnings in the whole season (regular+finals).

The other 25 players get priority based on finals earnings only, as some played the PGA Tour rather than the Web.com Tour.

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 01:30 PM

i only wish the pga lessened those who kept their card to the top 85 money list. i want to see larger turnover among the higher (worser) ranked players each year. its so hard for the new guys getting their card to actually get enough events in to keep their card.

DA Points keeps his card basically because he got hot for 4 days in Puerto Rico

Edited by HoosierMizuno, 06 September 2017 - 01:36 PM.

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Titleist 915H 18* w/ Rogue Black 85 S
J15CB w/ Modus 120X
Ping Glide 50, 54, 58
Cleveland TFI 2135 Cero 35"
B330-S

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