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Keegan Bradley...what is really going on?


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#121 rawdog

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 11:57 AM

View PostNorth Butte, on 31 August 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

Two or three practice swings. Step up to the ball. Freeze. Stand there for a few seconds then back off and take two or three more practice swings. Then freeze over the ball again. Three, four, five cycles of this. Then if he hit it into the woods or OB he'd say, "I'm hitting a provisional" and go through an even slower version of the same thing. On a bad day he might do that on eight or ten tee shots and I'm not exaggerating, it often took literally three to four minutes.

He became a complete head case and couldn't play a round without losing a couple sleeves of balls. And the worse it got, the more with the practice swings and the freezing over the ball. He wasn't enjoying playing  and every time he showed up to play the entire group got slowed down by 20-30 minutes. It was equal parts embarrassing and aggravating to watch.

The weird thing was it was only tee shots. I mean, he'd make some bad swings with an iron or whatever but none of that backing off and practice swing stuff. So no, I'm not talking about a guy who takes a couple practice swings before his shot and maybe backs off once in a while if he's not lined up right. We all do stuff like that. This was like stop the round and let's all stand here until I figure out how to fix my swing, no matter how long it takes.

P.S. Almost forgot. At one point he also started mixing in the "pump drill" thing where you waggle, then take a 1/4 swing, then a 1/2 swing, then 3/4 and finally go all the way to the top. But he quit doing that one the first time somebody told him to knock it off and save it for the driving range.

I still don't get what that has to do with "thrashing" about or why you would compare what he was doing to your temper tantrums back in the day.

Two totally different behaviors. One is calm and composed, the other is out of control.

I agree your friend needed to fix his issues, as it was clearly affecting his and your group's enjoyment of the game. But I have more sympathy and patience for someone struggling mentally and keeping a calm demeanor than someone "thrashing" or throwing equipment.

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 02:19 PM

Someone mentioned Keegan suffers from OCD ... which I do as well ... on a good day, the OCD thoughts can be controlled, rituals contained, and life is fairly "normal."

On bad days, I would rather be curled up in bed in the fetal position, and normal human interaction is painful to say the least.

Don't know how Keegan goes through those ups and downs, including his rituals, in front of thousands of people in person and millions on TV, if he does have OCD. Totally understandable how he goes from a 68 one day and an 80 the next. Has nothing to do with mechanics.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:36 AM

View Postgolfandfishing, on 27 August 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

He's a journeyman pro, a nice player but not ever going to be a world beater. He won a major when he got red hot as the leader was collapsing.  Impressive and noteworthy yes, but hardly has shown he is anything but a player that will be 60-125 on the money list except when he stumbles on a win.

There is absolutely no such thing as stumbling on a win on Tour. I grew up in Memphis, TN. Attended and played for the same HS team as Shaun Micheel and David Gossett. Played on the State Championship team as Gossett and had the same swing coach as Micheel(Tom Stickney). Gossett was a 3 time All-American at Texas, US Amateur Champion and PGA Tour winner, can't break eighty 99% of the time. Micheel barely cashed checks on the Hooters, Nike and Nationwide Tours and took down a PGA Championship with one of the most clutch shots in Major Championship history. You didn't play golf on that team and compete with guys like that if you were a joke. That being said, compared to both of them, everyone was a joke. They were insanely good players, world beaters in a points game at any club in Memphis from the tips, Ridgeway, TPC Southwind, Farmington, you name it.

Long story is long but I tell it to emphasize my point, I don't think I've ever witnessed a guy stumble on a PGA TOUR victory. Just saying. #Bababooey

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:28 AM

View Postaabcuue, on 27 August 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

Unfortunately, although Phil tried to take him under his wing, they had a falling out. Since then he's been pretty much on his own and hasn't done as well.

Do you have a bit of inside information or is it pure rumour? Despite a lot of people trashing him, to me he seems like a decent guy so its hard to imagine him falling out with someone he clearly looked up to.

Obviously the putter ruling really hurt him but he also got married and must be really comfortable financially etc.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:31 AM

View Post75or95, on 07 September 2017 - 01:36 AM, said:

View Postgolfandfishing, on 27 August 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

He's a journeyman pro, a nice player but not ever going to be a world beater. He won a major when he got red hot as the leader was collapsing.  Impressive and noteworthy yes, but hardly has shown he is anything but a player that will be 60-125 on the money list except when he stumbles on a win.

There is absolutely no such thing as stumbling on a win on Tour. I grew up in Memphis, TN. Attended and played for the same HS team as Shaun Micheel and David Gossett. Played on the State Championship team as Gossett and had the same swing coach as Micheel(Tom Stickney). Gossett was a 3 time All-American at Texas, US Amateur Champion and PGA Tour winner, can't break eighty 99% of the time. Micheel barely cashed checks on the Hooters, Nike and Nationwide Tours and took down a PGA Championship with one of the most clutch shots in Major Championship history. You didn't play golf on that team and compete with guys like that if you were a joke. That being said, compared to both of them, everyone was a joke. They were insanely good players, world beaters in a points game at any club in Memphis from the tips, Ridgeway, TPC Southwind, Farmington, you name it.

Long story is long but I tell it to emphasize my point, I don't think I've ever witnessed a guy stumble on a PGA TOUR victory. Just saying. #Bababooey

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 08:43 AM

View PostOldTomMorris, on 07 September 2017 - 04:28 AM, said:

View Postaabcuue, on 27 August 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

Unfortunately, although Phil tried to take him under his wing, they had a falling out. Since then he's been pretty much on his own and hasn't done as well.

Do you have a bit of inside information or is it pure rumour? Despite a lot of people trashing him, to me he seems like a decent guy so its hard to imagine him falling out with someone he clearly looked up to.

Obviously the putter ruling really hurt him but he also got married and must be really comfortable financially etc.

$18.5m in career earnings on tour.  Sponsored by Nationwide, Srixon/Cleveland, Putnam, Travis Mathew, Jordan, Audemars Piguet, etc.  I think yeah he's good financially.  
He talked on a recent NLU podcast about still playing practice rounds with Phil and their bets and trash talking, so I don't know about a big "falling out".

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 08:52 AM

He's a Patriots fan, its Karma

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:02 AM

View Postsgsst18, on 07 September 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

He's a Patriots fan, its Karma

I heard Keegan lost his game after the tour found out he was using his cell phone to get messages from some guy sitting in a trailer reading greens for him.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 07:25 PM

View PostNorth Butte, on 31 August 2017 - 07:52 AM, said:

We didn't dump him. We told him to go figure out how to act normal on the golf course. He went away and figured it out and was as welcome in the group as ever.

I used the temper tantrum analogy for good reason. For a long time after a few horrible shots in a row I was prone to whining, stomping around, cursing and on a couple of occasions I ever tossed a club. One of the older guys in that same group took me aside after one little escapade and asked, "Are you a grown man or a two-year-old? Have a little respect for the rest of us and keep it to yourself". I can't say I have literally never acted like that again all these years later but it's been maybe a time or two instead of every stinking round.

Part of participating in a group is conforming to the expected behavior. You can't expect 20-30 other people to just suck it up and ignore you every time you want to make a jerk out of yourself.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 01:39 PM

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He's a Patriots fan, its Karma

He should put in a call to Brady or Bellichick. Maybe they would have some advice on how to cheat his way to victory.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 02:31 PM

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View Postsgsst18, on 07 September 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

He's a Patriots fan, its Karma

He should put in a call to Brady or Bellichick. Maybe they would have some advice on how to cheat his way to victory.

Heck he already won a major cheating. What more do you want?
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:44 PM

View PostTollBros, on 08 September 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

View Postsgsst18, on 07 September 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

He's a Patriots fan, its Karma

He should put in a call to Brady or Bellichick. Maybe they would have some advice on how to cheat his way to victory.

Judging by last night, he might want to hold off on that phone call.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:58 PM

View PostCommerceTiger, on 08 September 2017 - 02:31 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 08 September 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

View Postsgsst18, on 07 September 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

He's a Patriots fan, its Karma

He should put in a call to Brady or Bellichick. Maybe they would have some advice on how to cheat his way to victory.

Heck he already won a major cheating. What more do you want?

And how, in all your perceived intelligence, did he cheat to win his major?
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:56 PM

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View Postebrasmus21, on 28 August 2017 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostCallawayLefty, on 28 August 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

Migel Anhel Himeneth permanently robbed him of his game.

Got me with that spelling.  LOL


Hosesay Meriah Olasabow had that foot problem years ago but that didn't stop him from winning second Augusta Masters in 1999.  
Keegan doesn't have a foot problem, to my knowledge.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:07 PM

View Post75or95, on 07 September 2017 - 01:36 AM, said:

View Postgolfandfishing, on 27 August 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

He's a journeyman pro, a nice player but not ever going to be a world beater. He won a major when he got red hot as the leader was collapsing.  Impressive and noteworthy yes, but hardly has shown he is anything but a player that will be 60-125 on the money list except when he stumbles on a win.

There is absolutely no such thing as stumbling on a win on Tour. I grew up in Memphis, TN. Attended and played for the same HS team as Shaun Micheel and David Gossett. Played on the State Championship team as Gossett and had the same swing coach as Micheel(Tom Stickney). Gossett was a 3 time All-American at Texas, US Amateur Champion and PGA Tour winner, can't break eighty 99% of the time. Micheel barely cashed checks on the Hooters, Nike and Nationwide Tours and took down a PGA Championship with one of the most clutch shots in Major Championship history. You didn't play golf on that team and compete with guys like that if you were a joke. That being said, compared to both of them, everyone was a joke. They were insanely good players, world beaters in a points game at any club in Memphis from the tips, Ridgeway, TPC Southwind, Farmington, you name it.

Long story is long but I tell it to emphasize my point, I don't think I've ever witnessed a guy stumble on a PGA TOUR victory. Just saying. #Bababooey

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strange thread to post a pic of one's own followthrough....

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:11 AM

View PostWidespreadPanic, on 08 September 2017 - 10:07 PM, said:

View Post75or95, on 07 September 2017 - 01:36 AM, said:

View Postgolfandfishing, on 27 August 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

He's a journeyman pro, a nice player but not ever going to be a world beater. He won a major when he got red hot as the leader was collapsing.  Impressive and noteworthy yes, but hardly has shown he is anything but a player that will be 60-125 on the money list except when he stumbles on a win.

There is absolutely no such thing as stumbling on a win on Tour. I grew up in Memphis, TN. Attended and played for the same HS team as Shaun Micheel and David Gossett. Played on the State Championship team as Gossett and had the same swing coach as Micheel(Tom Stickney). Gossett was a 3 time All-American at Texas, US Amateur Champion and PGA Tour winner, can't break eighty 99% of the time. Micheel barely cashed checks on the Hooters, Nike and Nationwide Tours and took down a PGA Championship with one of the most clutch shots in Major Championship history. You didn't play golf on that team and compete with guys like that if you were a joke. That being said, compared to both of them, everyone was a joke. They were insanely good players, world beaters in a points game at any club in Memphis from the tips, Ridgeway, TPC Southwind, Farmington, you name it.

Long story is long but I tell it to emphasize my point, I don't think I've ever witnessed a guy stumble on a PGA TOUR victory. Just saying. #Bababooey

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If he posted a picture of a cat and of a lamp, they would've been as relevant as the actual pics.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:46 AM

View Posttatertot, on 08 September 2017 - 05:58 PM, said:

View PostCommerceTiger, on 08 September 2017 - 02:31 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 08 September 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

View Postsgsst18, on 07 September 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

He's a Patriots fan, its Karma

He should put in a call to Brady or Bellichick. Maybe they would have some advice on how to cheat his way to victory.

Heck he already won a major cheating. What more do you want?

And how, in all your perceived intelligence, did he cheat to win his major?

Lol. It's a joke at all the anchor ban guys who say majors won with an anchor need an asterisk. Take a joke brochacho

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:19 AM

Here's a fun hypothetical question for you all:

Let's assume MJ decides to make a comeback and plays for the Hornets the next two seasons. In the next two years, does MJ have a better chance of averaging 15 points or more a game (during at least 1 season, minimum 41 games), or does Keegan have a better chance at winning a major during that span?
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:25 AM

I've no idea what a late middle aged ex-GOAT might do in an NBA game but Keegan has a zero chance of winning a major, if that. Maybe less than zero.

Perhaps in a few years he can join the senior tour and go back to anchoring. Then he might have a chance.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:59 AM

View PostCommerceTiger, on 09 September 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

View Posttatertot, on 08 September 2017 - 05:58 PM, said:

View PostCommerceTiger, on 08 September 2017 - 02:31 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 08 September 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

View Postsgsst18, on 07 September 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

He's a Patriots fan, its Karma

He should put in a call to Brady or Bellichick. Maybe they would have some advice on how to cheat his way to victory.

Heck he already won a major cheating. What more do you want?

And how, in all your perceived intelligence, did he cheat to win his major?

Lol. It's a joke at all the anchor ban guys who say majors won with an anchor need an asterisk. Take a joke brochacho

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 05:08 PM

Phil liked him. No one else did.

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#142 fowlerscousin

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 03:19 PM

He's on a brocation with jon curran at the greenbrier, source instagram

Edited by fowlerscousin, 10 September 2017 - 03:19 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 05:26 PM

View Postpjc, on 27 August 2017 - 08:59 PM, said:

What in the world has happened to this guy's golf game?  Just when you think there is a glimmer of hope for a turn he shoots 80 in the final round of the Northern Trust.  I usually look at pgatour.com's final leader board for most tournaments and this type of thing seems to happen all of the time with Bradley.  How does a tour pro shoot 66 one day and 80 the following day on the same course?  Even on "regular" tour events I have looked at his scores, and they are all over the place day to day, and I mean really big scoring gaps.  I mean, come on, the non-belly putter thing just can't be blamed for everything.  If indeed that is the case, and he cannot put with just a little bit of consistency with the vast array of "traditional" putters available to tour pros, then maybe he should be looking for another job.  I can only imagine what is going on in his head if I'm scratching mine.  

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:51 PM

Love him or hate him hes statistically a top 5 driver of the ball over the last 7years on tour. the rest of his game runs too wild to contend regularly. He should have never left Jim Mclean.Chuck Cook is a good instructor but Jim is good with whacky moves and personalities.He took him as far as he could

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:25 PM

for 2018, I heard he's switching over to Ksigs.  Apparently, he loves them and has spent his career earnings trying to corner the market.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:27 PM

View PostPoor Posture, on 11 September 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

for 2018, I heard he's switching over to Ksigs.  Apparently, he loves them and has spent his career earnings trying to corner the market.

KSigs are legit so that shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 07:18 PM

Menta game for him

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:04 PM

Right on cue. If I was an elite player I'd pay to have someone start a WRX thread about me. Over and over anyone that's questioned or written off has a resurgence and goes on a tear.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:46 PM

I get a kick out of a bunch of guys on keyboards trash talking a perennial top 100 player as if he's a hack and they know it.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:13 PM

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 09 September 2017 - 07:19 AM, said:

Here's a fun hypothetical question for you all:

Let's assume MJ decides to make a comeback and plays for the Hornets the next two seasons. In the next two years, does MJ have a better chance of averaging 15 points or more a game (during at least 1 season, minimum 41 games), or does Keegan have a better chance at winning a major during that span?
MJ at 50+ has no chance to AVERAGE that many points. At best he can come off the bench and play five or six minutes. Fifteen points is a LOT of points to average. Keegan has a better chance of getting hot and coming out of nowhere to steal a major.

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