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Brandel: The Best Putters Hit Slightly Downward


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#1 Holy Moses

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:23 PM

He said this on Golf Central this morning. Said hitting down on the ball is better than hitting slightly up on a putt and great putters hit down. Hitting slightly up will cause the ball to bounce. What about the skidding that happens when you hit down? What great pros today putt with a descending blow? I guess it depends what part of the ball you hit - above, on, or below the equator.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:30 PM

None of the great putters hit down.  He couldn't be more wrong or clueless on this one

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:35 PM

I don't really understand what goes through Brandel Chamblees mind some times.
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:38 PM

View PostcMgolfer181, on 27 August 2017 - 03:35 PM, said:

I don't really understand what goes through Brandel Chamblees mind some times.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:44 PM

View PostcMgolfer181, on 27 August 2017 - 03:35 PM, said:

I don't really understand what goes through Brandel Chamblees mind some times.

I'm not sure he does either


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 04:31 PM

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

He said this on Golf Central this morning. Said hitting down on the ball is better than hitting slightly up on a putt and great putters hit down. Hitting slightly up will cause the ball to bounce. What about the skidding that happens when you hit down? What great pros today putt with a descending blow? I guess it depends what part of the ball you hit - above, on, or below the equator.

Did he name names.
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 04:53 PM

View Postricklinens, on 27 August 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

He said this on Golf Central this morning. Said hitting down on the ball is better than hitting slightly up on a putt and great putters hit down. Hitting slightly up will cause the ball to bounce. What about the skidding that happens when you hit down? What great pros today putt with a descending blow? I guess it depends what part of the ball you hit - above, on, or below the equator.

Did he name names.

Only said one or two people from many years ago. I hadn't heard of them.
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 04:59 PM

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 04:53 PM, said:

View Postricklinens, on 27 August 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

He said this on Golf Central this morning. Said hitting down on the ball is better than hitting slightly up on a putt and great putters hit down. Hitting slightly up will cause the ball to bounce. What about the skidding that happens when you hit down? What great pros today putt with a descending blow? I guess it depends what part of the ball you hit - above, on, or below the equator.

Did he name names.

Only said one or two people from many years ago. I hadn't heard of them.

Anyone know the names?
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 05:10 PM

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

He said this on Golf Central this morning. Said hitting down on the ball is better than hitting slightly up on a putt and great putters hit down. Hitting slightly up will cause the ball to bounce. What about the skidding that happens when you hit down? What great pros today putt with a descending blow? I guess it depends what part of the ball you hit - above, on, or below the equator.

And THE key for all the great ball strikers throughout golf history is that they lift(ed) their left heel.

Sigh...

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 05:18 PM

Also thinks that Lucas Glover wouldn't have slipped with steel spikes and thinks that golf shoe manufacturers should make metal spikes that recess into the shoe when on the green

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 06:14 PM

Sounds like he just replaced the word Driver with Putter regarding the garbage arguement he had a couple months ago.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 06:19 PM

Are you sure he wasn't describing some interaction with Bailey?

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 06:29 PM

The only golfer I know who successfully hit down with the putter and produce good result is Jamie Sadlowski.  He hits it 280.
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 07:15 PM

View PostRusty1885, on 27 August 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

The only golfer I know who successfully hit down with the putter and produce good result is Jamie Sadlowski.  He hits it 280.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 07:15 PM

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

Also thinks that Lucas Glover wouldn't have slipped with steel spikes and thinks that golf shoe manufacturers should make metal spikes that recess into the shoe when on the green
Just where would they recess to? Sounds painful. :(

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 07:36 PM

View PostShilgy, on 27 August 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

Also thinks that Lucas Glover wouldn't have slipped with steel spikes and thinks that golf shoe manufacturers should make metal spikes that recess into the shoe when on the green
Just where would they recess to? Sounds painful. :(

And where would the phone go for calling Agent 99?

Brandel, Brandel .......

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 07:46 PM

Brandel responded to me on Twitter.

"The shaft has a slight forward lean,feels like&puts downward to even pressure on the ball, even though stroke is level to up#feelisnotreal"


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 07:49 PM

I heard him say it and thought, "What did I just hear?"
Every single teacher or pro who has said that people should start off left hand low mentions either that is helps keep the shoulders square to the line or keeps the left wrist from breaking down.
I have never heard that it causes people to hit slightly down. Especially since most people play the ball nearer the front of their stance.
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 07:55 PM

View PostRighttoLeft, on 27 August 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

I heard him say it and thought, "What did I just hear?"
Every single teacher or pro who has said that people should start off left hand low mentions either that is helps keep the shoulders square to the line or keeps the left wrist from breaking down.
I have never heard that it causes people to hit slightly down. Especially since most people play the ball nearer the front of their stance.

I'm confused by Brandel. Did he mean left hand low causes a slightly downward putting stroke which is preferrable or did he mean that everyone using a standard grip should putt with a descending blow?

Edited by Holy Moses, 27 August 2017 - 08:17 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:06 PM

He said that LHL encourages a slightly descending strike.

I putt LHL and have for over 10 years. With the ball positioned off me left breast pocket, I have never hit down on a putt.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:08 PM

...and look at his tweet.

It (forward lean) puts slight downward pressure even thought the stroke is level to up??? Time for GC to start drug screening.

Edited by RighttoLeft, 27 August 2017 - 08:08 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:18 PM

View PostRighttoLeft, on 27 August 2017 - 08:08 PM, said:

...and look at his tweet.

It (forward lean) puts slight downward pressure even thought the stroke is level to up??? Time for GC to start drug screening.

Too much Viagra?
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:33 PM

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 07:46 PM, said:

Brandel responded to me on Twitter.

"The shaft has a slight forward lean,feels like&puts downward to even pressure on the ball, even though stroke is level to up#feelisnotreal"

I responded to Brandel on Twitter.  "You're a ******* idiot."

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:33 PM

View PostDavePelz4, on 27 August 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostHoly Moses, on 27 August 2017 - 07:46 PM, said:

Brandel responded to me on Twitter.

"The shaft has a slight forward lean,feels like&puts downward to even pressure on the ball, even though stroke is level to up#feelisnotreal"

I responded to Brandel on Twitter.  "You're a ******* idiot."

Golf needs him though
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:48 PM

Brandel is talking about George Low.  George Low would rank near the top of any list of all-time great putters. The reason many here may have never heard of him is because he played on tour in the 1940's.  Arnold Palmer respected him enough to take a putting lesson from him around 1960.  Jackie Burke, Jr. had a few pages in his book about how good a putter George Low was.  I have George Low's book and he stresses the stroke should be "on the downbeat", striking the ball just very slightly above the center line.  Weight on left heel.  He lets the force of gravity direct the putter on the down-stroke. He says the path of the putter is like a shallow saucer...not sharply down.  Of course, this is old school putting from the days when greens were slow and putters often had 6 degrees or more of loft.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:16 PM

View PostWill Par, on 27 August 2017 - 08:48 PM, said:

Brandel is talking about George Low.  George Low would rank near the top of any list of all-time great putters. The reason many here may have never heard of him is because he played on tour in the 1940's.  Arnold Palmer respected him enough to take a putting lesson from him around 1960.  Jackie Burke, Jr. had a few pages in his book about how good a putter George Low was.  I have George Low's book and he stresses the stroke should be "on the downbeat", striking the ball just very slightly above the center line.  Weight on left heel.  He lets the force of gravity direct the putter on the down-stroke. He says the path of the putter is like a shallow saucer...not sharply down.  Of course, this is old school putting from the days when greens were slow and putters often had 6 degrees or more of loft.

Yes, George Low. Inventer of left hand low.
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:47 PM

Forward press.  

People who gush all over about the Miura KM350 yet don't know who George Low is.   Wizard 600 people.  

One of the best ever with knowing how to teach the flatstick.  

Dave Stockton.   Forward press.  

Cmon people, really.



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Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:30 PM

Good ole' Brandel...

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 06:00 AM

View Postdan360, on 27 August 2017 - 09:47 PM, said:

Forward press.  

People who gush all over about the Miura KM350 yet don't know who George Low is.   Wizard 600 people.  

One of the best ever with knowing how to teach the flatstick.  

Dave Stockton.   Forward press.  

Cmon people, really.

And Stockton doesn't hit down on it at all. If anything his students hit up on it more than average.  Forward press/shaft lean doesn't mean hitting down.  Two totally different things

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 06:52 AM

View Postiteachgolf, on 28 August 2017 - 06:00 AM, said:

View Postdan360, on 27 August 2017 - 09:47 PM, said:

Forward press.  

People who gush all over about the Miura KM350 yet don't know who George Low is.   Wizard 600 people.  

One of the best ever with knowing how to teach the flatstick.  

Dave Stockton.   Forward press.  

Cmon people, really.

And Stockton doesn't hit down on it at all. If anything his students hit up on it more than average.  Forward press/shaft lean doesn't mean hitting down.  Two totally different things

Once took a putting lesson w Stockton and sadly a big waste of money. I putt left hand low and he starts lesson by saying he can't teach someone who putts left hand low. The only thing I recall about that lesson was his advice to not take a practice swing. Just walk up and hit the ball. Also made no sense to me. I did get an autographed book from him tho:)

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