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#1 MaddMaxx

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 07:42 AM

I have never had a ball backup on a wedge shot. The have hit a stopped but not spin back.
I dont play expensive soft balls but usually pinnacle type balls.
Is it possible for an average swing to spin these back?
You would think after hitting every type of approach from thin to fat and everything in between I would have hit one perfectly and have it spin back. mid 90s driver swing and 80s mph in the short irons.


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 08:14 AM

They are designed not to spin, which isn't to say Phil Mickelson couldn't force one to suck back off the green if he set his mind to it. But it's going to take some pretty serious clubhead speed and technique to do it with the very hardest-cover ball.

FWIW, Greg Norman would have won a couple more majors if he could have made a soft-cover ball NOT spin back!
Everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 08:54 AM

I am reading the Greg Norman book right now. I am at the part where he blames the media for his bad image.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:28 AM

What a coincidence!

I'm still convinced it was the ball though :tomato:
Everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 10:48 AM

No spin back, but like the Q-star and TruSofts for 'holding' the green.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 12:06 PM

Green conditions play a bigger role in spinning a ball back IMO. On soft greens I can easily back up a Slazenger or Top Flite with an iron or wedge. And on my home course last year (drought conditions) I couldn't stop even the highest spinning premium balls from releasing a bit on certain greens.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 12:31 PM

Pinnacles don't spin ... that's part of the reason they go farther.
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 12:40 PM

You are probably right that the green has a lot to do with it. One course I play is built on granite. And even though the greens must be built up using earth and sand the ball just wont stop. I hit a full, high 58 degree wedge and it bounced over 10 feet and then did stop pretty quickly.
I wanted so much just to see a ball back up I bought a spin doctor reverse groove sticker. LOL. I just wanted to see my groups face when I backed one up off of the green. I couldn't even get that thing to back it up.
I think I will but a sleeve of premium balls just to get one to back up.
I assume titleist pro v1 is the biggest spinner.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 01:47 PM

If a player has the ability to spin back a "distance ball" then they shouldn't be playing one.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 05:19 PM

Greens DO play a part ... but contrary to popular thinking the firmer the better if you want to "pull the string" on the shot.  Soft greens tend to take spin off the ball when it sinks into the soft surface.

Wedge grooves play a huge part, but angle of attack and a reasonable swing speed are the main keys.


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:28 PM

Distance balls would be hard to spin really well.  I have spun some 3 pc Surlyn or Ionemer balls however. I played a few rounds with the Callaway Hex Control from Costco a couple years ago and from a nice tight lie and a wedge I could get some pretty decent spin.

   I think the HX Bite had the same cover so maybe there was something to it.  Those balls were not the most durable however.  Trade off for everything.
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Posted 26 August 2017 - 04:38 AM

I have seen shreds of the ball cover on my grooves and bits hanging off of the ball. So I guess I just dont have the club head speed to spin it back.
When I was much younger I think I remember a few backing up a bit but not much.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 04:35 PM

it is about the swing speed and the angle of attack, obviosly is gonna be harder to spin a topflite distance ball than a proV1 but it is possible, If you want better performance around greens I recommend to buy used balls that are better than those pinnacle...
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Posted 26 August 2017 - 06:16 PM

No modern golf balls spin back much imo. I can get premium balls to back up a few feet but I can remember backing up rule 35/nike TA/strata TU 20-30 feet regularly. I could spin em back up hiĺl and spin em back from the fringe if I flew the green. I had more speed and was using square grooves back then, but the ball design was definitely a factor.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 07:09 PM

A distance ball designed to not spin will simply not spin like a urathane covered ball. No technique or equipment will overcome the difference. Most the time that distance balls spin back, they're not even spinning back, but popping back out of their pitch mark on a soft/sloped green. But no worries, excess spin for a regular golfer is not necessarily a good thing...

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 01:22 PM

We have had a lot of rain lately and my drives are stopping on a dime. Damn

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 01:28 PM

Original Mack Daddy grooves will spin anything back!  :)  They will chew on a range ball like its a pro V.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 02:09 PM

I don't spin a distance ball back but can stop it on a dime - which is probably better, if you think about it. I often will hit a Get Sum onto a green and it'll end up within 2 feet of where it lands (anything shorter than a 4-iron). Rock's aren't very rock-like for me, for the most part - for whatever reason.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 02:15 PM

They can be brought back a couple feet sometimes.....but you're not gonna get any zippers, unless you hit into an up slope with perfect green conditions

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:49 PM

 Golfrnut, on 27 August 2017 - 01:28 PM, said:

Original Mack Daddy grooves will spin anything back!  :)  They will chew on a range ball like its a pro V.

I still have the Jaws gap wedge. Boy it eats golf balls alive.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 09:16 PM

I am able to stop the non-urethanes but never generate spin. Now - today played ProV1x and gained a ton of spin. Its a matter of ball for sure.
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Posted 06 September 2017 - 06:15 AM

I have no issues with spinning a supersoft back with an 8 iron - wedge.
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Posted 16 September 2017 - 04:35 PM

 North Butte, on 25 August 2017 - 08:14 AM, said:

They are designed not to spin, which isn't to say Phil Mickelson couldn't force one to suck back off the green if he set his mind to it. But it's going to take some pretty serious clubhead speed and technique to do it with the very hardest-cover ball.

FWIW, Greg Norman would have won a couple more majors if he could have made a soft-cover ball NOT spin back!

He would have won a lot more with a lower spinning ball, and if his opponents hadn't hole out in play-off's etc.

I sometimes bring up a clip on YouTube of him hitting a driver back in the days of persimmon. The noise is incredible.

In answer to the OP's question, no you won't spin a distance ball.
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Posted 16 September 2017 - 09:57 PM

I have spun back a Top Flite D2 Distance with an 8 iron.  It was hit high into the wind.  Came back a foot or three.  



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 01:15 PM

I've spun these before.  Great ball


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Posted 26 April 2018 - 10:10 PM

The only time I've ever had a distance ball back up is a short par 3 when hitting off a tee.  But I don't spin back premium balls either.  I just hope they stop close to where the hit - and hope that location happens to actually be on the green!

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 10:59 PM

ProV and especially ProV1x, and Chrome Soft really suck back, especially on shaved greens. I noticed that on soft soggy greens it doesn't matter, everything just lands with a thud and sits there.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 08:55 AM

 suprfli6, on 25 August 2017 - 12:06 PM, said:

Green conditions play a bigger role in spinning a ball back IMO. On soft greens I can easily back up a Slazenger or Top Flite with an iron or wedge. And on my home course last year (drought conditions) I couldn't stop even the highest spinning premium balls from releasing a bit on certain greens.

This ^^^^

The ability for a ball to spin is different than the ability for a ball to "bite".... I find that in firm conditions urethane covers are much better at the "bite' part of the equation.
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