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#31 9ccat9

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 01:25 PM

Also according to very high level people at PXG they plan on no performance gains but doubling the price. They expect market share to increase.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 01:38 PM

View PostAlways_rough, on 25 August 2017 - 01:59 AM, said:

I can guarantee this, it won't offer any faster ball speed than allowed by the USGA standards. Maybe since the bar technology in the driver with a horrible name managed to sell well, they'll go from bars behind the face to a reinforced wall. A reinforced wall behind the face that won't compress at impact. And the sound will be out of this world better compared to last years. More forgiving too, unless you leave the club face wide open or come over the top.

Jokes aside, I went and got fit for the 2017 M1 but didn't pull the trigger as I didn't like the yellow/green color that was on the club and headcover. Hoping for a more aesthetically pleasing club.
You didnt buy the club because its color on the bottom of the club. Some people have no sense
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 03:13 PM

I just got fired from Taylormade so I don't mind spilling the beans (hopefully they don't read this and sue me). They are going to release one model driver this year that utilizes 3 removable/ interchangeable weights to manipulate MOI and Launch - similar to Epic SZ and Cobra F7+. The new driver will combine this technology with the multi material design in the current M line. Only offered in 460 head, with slightly deeper face than M2 and less front to back width.

Taylormade has realized, mainly through the popularity of the M2, that the market is not interested in sliding weights and gimmicky adjustment. They have struggled to sell the higher price M1 with most tour guys playing M2. Simple adjustment with forgiveness and maxed ball speeds. They haven't focused a great deal of attention on the sound, but I've heard it and it is much improved.

Side Note* they tested several prototypes of "stability bars" behind the face, but none increased performance so that idea was scraped.

Another Note* This could all be BS
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 03:13 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 25 August 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

According to very high level technical people in Taylormade, the new DRIVER will be filled with SpeedFoam and when the ball is hit a puff of this SpeedFoam will exit the butt end of the shaft.  Supposedly this provides a 10% increase in distance.

Refills of Speedfoam will be available!

I heard something similar except that the puff of SpeedFoam only exits the shaft when you hit the sweet spot. Apparently the marketing department is looking to possibly sell this as "jizzing" it. Whatever that means. I think the patent is pending.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 03:40 PM

View PostSantiago Golf, on 25 August 2017 - 01:38 PM, said:

View PostAlways_rough, on 25 August 2017 - 01:59 AM, said:

I can guarantee this, it won't offer any faster ball speed than allowed by the USGA standards. Maybe since the bar technology in the driver with a horrible name managed to sell well, they'll go from bars behind the face to a reinforced wall. A reinforced wall behind the face that won't compress at impact. And the sound will be out of this world better compared to last years. More forgiving too, unless you leave the club face wide open or come over the top.

Jokes aside, I went and got fit for the 2017 M1 but didn't pull the trigger as I didn't like the yellow/green color that was on the club and headcover. Hoping for a more aesthetically pleasing club.
You didnt buy the club because its color on the bottom of the club. Some people have no sense

Didn't mean to hurt your feelings with my opinion. And if I'm going to spend $700 dollars on a driver, I want to enjoy every bit of it. And that ugly color was on the head cover too.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 03:46 PM

View PostRig14Port, on 25 August 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

I just got fired from Taylormade so I don't mind spilling the beans (hopefully they don't read this and sue me). They are going to release one model driver this year that utilizes 3 removable/ interchangeable weights to manipulate MOI and Launch - similar to Epic SZ and Cobra F7+. The new driver will combine this technology with the multi material design in the current M line. Only offered in 460 head, with slightly deeper face than M2 and less front to back width.

Taylormade has realized, mainly through the popularity of the M2, that the market is not interested in sliding weights and gimmicky adjustment. They have struggled to sell the higher price M1 with most tour guys playing M2. Simple adjustment with forgiveness and maxed ball speeds. They haven't focused a great deal of attention on the sound, but I've heard it and it is much improved.

Side Note* they tested several prototypes of "stability bars" behind the face, but none increased performance so that idea was scraped.

Another Note* This could all be BS

Any color adjustments? I can't stand the white on the driver crown so a all black crown would be cool
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 04:51 PM

View PostBottleCap, on 25 August 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

View PostRig14Port, on 25 August 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

I just got fired from Taylormade so I don't mind spilling the beans (hopefully they don't read this and sue me). They are going to release one model driver this year that utilizes 3 removable/ interchangeable weights to manipulate MOI and Launch - similar to Epic SZ and Cobra F7+. The new driver will combine this technology with the multi material design in the current M line. Only offered in 460 head, with slightly deeper face than M2 and less front to back width.

Taylormade has realized, mainly through the popularity of the M2, that the market is not interested in sliding weights and gimmicky adjustment. They have struggled to sell the higher price M1 with most tour guys playing M2. Simple adjustment with forgiveness and maxed ball speeds. They haven't focused a great deal of attention on the sound, but I've heard it and it is much improved.

Side Note* they tested several prototypes of "stability bars" behind the face, but none increased performance so that idea was scraped.

Another Note* This could all be BS

Any color adjustments? I can't stand the white on the driver crown so a all black crown would be cool

All black, in a show of support for kapernick getting a job

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 05:29 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 25 August 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

According to very high level technical people in Taylormade, the new DRIVER will be filled with SpeedFoam and when the ball is hit a puff of this SpeedFoam will exit the butt end of the shaft.  Supposedly this provides a 10% increase in distance.

Refills of Speedfoam will be available!


Will it be called the Taylormade hamster mattress?
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 05:34 PM

View PostJackpotJohnny, on 25 August 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

View PostBottleCap, on 25 August 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

View PostRig14Port, on 25 August 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

I just got fired from Taylormade so I don't mind spilling the beans (hopefully they don't read this and sue me). They are going to release one model driver this year that utilizes 3 removable/ interchangeable weights to manipulate MOI and Launch - similar to Epic SZ and Cobra F7+. The new driver will combine this technology with the multi material design in the current M line. Only offered in 460 head, with slightly deeper face than M2 and less front to back width.

Taylormade has realized, mainly through the popularity of the M2, that the market is not interested in sliding weights and gimmicky adjustment. They have struggled to sell the higher price M1 with most tour guys playing M2. Simple adjustment with forgiveness and maxed ball speeds. They haven't focused a great deal of attention on the sound, but I've heard it and it is much improved.

Side Note* they tested several prototypes of "stability bars" behind the face, but none increased performance so that idea was scraped.

Another Note* This could all be BS

Any color adjustments? I can't stand the white on the driver crown so a all black crown would be cool

All black, in a show of support for kapernick getting a job

The new driver is cancelled, LeSean McCoy said it isn't good enough to justify the controversy of releasing another driver so soon.
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:25 PM

Good. I can buy the 3 and 5 woods for less money.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 11:11 PM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

Not in sales. It's hard to be stay in business if your competitor is outselling you in your core category.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 12:44 AM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

Depends entirely on the player. If you have a negative AoA and really need help with spin nothing beats M1, if not then several drivers create more ball speed. I don't need the spin reduction and both epics and the Z765 were much better for me this year.
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Posted 26 August 2017 - 07:17 AM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

What a totally subjective comment. I've hit every new driver released this year with about 6 different shaft combinations in each and the Epic SZ was far and away the best for me with the Taylormade's being by far the poorest performing. As Sef says above, all about the player.
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Posted 26 August 2017 - 08:34 AM

View PostFarrow, on 25 August 2017 - 11:11 PM, said:

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

Not in sales. It's hard to be stay in business if your competitor is outselling you in your core category.

Yes in sales, at least in my region..


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Posted 26 August 2017 - 08:36 AM

View PostPaul065, on 26 August 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

What a totally subjective comment. I've hit every new driver released this year with about 6 different shaft combinations in each and the Epic SZ was far and away the best for me with the Taylormade's being by far the poorest performing. As Sef says above, all about the player.

Everything is subjective on here, It's a golf equipment forum....  I too, have hit everything under the moon that comes out.  For me, the Epic was a dud and the TM 440 reigned supreme.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 08:41 AM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 26 August 2017 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostFarrow, on 25 August 2017 - 11:11 PM, said:

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

Not in sales. It's hard to be stay in business if your competitor is outselling you in your core category.

Yes in sales, at least in my region..

Ah, there's the asterisk. There will be pockets of areas where one OEM bucks the overall trend.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 08:41 AM

View PostRig14Port, on 25 August 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

I just got fired from Taylormade so I don't mind spilling the beans (hopefully they don't read this and sue me). They are going to release one model driver this year that utilizes 3 removable/ interchangeable weights to manipulate MOI and Launch - similar to Epic SZ and Cobra F7+. The new driver will combine this technology with the multi material design in the current M line. Only offered in 460 head, with slightly deeper face than M2 and less front to back width.

Taylormade has realized, mainly through the popularity of the M2, that the market is not interested in sliding weights and gimmicky adjustment. They have struggled to sell the higher price M1 with most tour guys playing M2. Simple adjustment with forgiveness and maxed ball speeds. They haven't focused a great deal of attention on the sound, but I've heard it and it is much improved.

Side Note* they tested several prototypes of "stability bars" behind the face, but none increased performance so that idea was scraped.

Another Note* This could all be BS

Great post man!

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 08:42 AM

View PostFarrow, on 26 August 2017 - 08:41 AM, said:

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 26 August 2017 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostFarrow, on 25 August 2017 - 11:11 PM, said:

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

Not in sales. It's hard to be stay in business if your competitor is outselling you in your core category.

Yes in sales, at least in my region..

Ah, there's the asterisk. There will be pockets of areas where one OEM bucks the overall trend.

Of course there will be.  That should go without saying...

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 09:23 AM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 26 August 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

View PostPaul065, on 26 August 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

What a totally subjective comment. I've hit every new driver released this year with about 6 different shaft combinations in each and the Epic SZ was far and away the best for me with the Taylormade's being by far the poorest performing. As Sef says above, all about the player.

Everything is subjective on here, It's a golf equipment forum....  I too, have hit everything under the moon that comes out.  For me, the Epic was a dud and the TM 440 reigned supreme.

You present a subjective opinion as if it is conclusive proof. A little like the caveat that the Epic isn't the best seller driver because it isn't in your region.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 09:24 AM

View PostPaul065, on 26 August 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 26 August 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

View PostPaul065, on 26 August 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 25 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostSoCalTitleist, on 25 August 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

Probably rushing out a driver to compete with the Epic

Why, they already have two out that beat it now..

What a totally subjective comment. I've hit every new driver released this year with about 6 different shaft combinations in each and the Epic SZ was far and away the best for me with the Taylormade's being by far the poorest performing. As Sef says above, all about the player.

Everything is subjective on here, It's a golf equipment forum....  I too, have hit everything under the moon that comes out.  For me, the Epic was a dud and the TM 440 reigned supreme.

You present a subjective opinion as if it is conclusive proof. A little like the caveat that the Epic isn't the best seller driver because it isn't in your region.

Lol.  Go have a good round with your Epic driver man.  It will be ok...

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 10:46 AM

View PostTheMoneyShot, on 26 August 2017 - 08:41 AM, said:

View PostRig14Port, on 25 August 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

I just got fired from Taylormade so I don't mind spilling the beans (hopefully they don't read this and sue me). They are going to release one model driver this year that utilizes 3 removable/ interchangeable weights to manipulate MOI and Launch - similar to Epic SZ and Cobra F7+. The new driver will combine this technology with the multi material design in the current M line. Only offered in 460 head, with slightly deeper face than M2 and less front to back width.

Taylormade has realized, mainly through the popularity of the M2, that the market is not interested in sliding weights and gimmicky adjustment. They have struggled to sell the higher price M1 with most tour guys playing M2. Simple adjustment with forgiveness and maxed ball speeds. They haven't focused a great deal of attention on the sound, but I've heard it and it is much improved.

Side Note* they tested several prototypes of "stability bars" behind the face, but none increased performance so that idea was scraped.

Another Note* This could all be BS

Great post man!

Kinda makes you wonder why he got fired...

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 12:08 PM

Interesting someone mentioned the Srixon driver as I got STUPID ball speeds with it and out drove the Epic SZ (tour issue) as well as Titleist and TM...only thing was it looked closed at address and I hooked the FU&^ out of it. Also My Titleist 917 with T1100 has outperformed all TM drivers with the same shaft and others. The Epic went farther than my Titleist but I couldn't get enough side spin on it to move it. Just dead straight rockets...problem was some were pushed 10 yards right and they stayed on that course.
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Posted 26 August 2017 - 10:28 PM

View PostKirkNo-yes, on 26 August 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

Interesting someone mentioned the Srixon driver as I got STUPID ball speeds with it and out drove the Epic SZ (tour issue) as well as Titleist and TM...only thing was it looked closed at address and I hooked the FU&^ out of it. Also My Titleist 917 with T1100 has outperformed all TM drivers with the same shaft and others. The Epic went farther than my Titleist but I couldn't get enough side spin on it to move it. Just dead straight rockets...problem was some were pushed 10 yards right and they stayed on that course.
Which model Srixon? The Z765 is fade biased if anything, the Z565 is draw biased I believe.
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Posted 26 August 2017 - 11:28 PM

My club pro who worked for tmag mentioned that taylormade didnt bank on the success of the m2 woods and have over stock of the m1 line. Hence the price drop. I can see that being the case when you look on tour which one pros are playing.


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:25 PM

Played 18 today with a TM rep. Says the new line will be called M4. Woods and irons. Better feel and sound all around. Told him I had been playing M2s and was switching back from G400 irons. He said wait as the new line is even better...
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:28 PM

View PostSteelhead, on 27 August 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

Played 18 today with a TM rep. Says the new line will be called M4. Woods and irons. Better feel and sound all around. Told him I had been playing M2s and was switching back from G400 irons. He said wait as the new line is even better...

M1, M2 and now M4?  They forgot about M3 first...

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:31 PM

That’s what he said they’re calling it in house. Chastised me for only having a DJ Spider:-).

That’s what he said they’re calling it in house. Chastised me for only having a DJ Spider:-).
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:33 PM

View PostSteelhead, on 27 August 2017 - 09:31 PM, said:

That’s what he said they’re calling it in house. Chastised me for only having a DJ Spider:-).

That’s what he said they’re calling it in house. Chastised me for only having a DJ Spider:-).

Did he mention when the new driver will be seeded on tour?

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:34 PM

Nope.

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Ryoma F3 - 15*
Ping G400 - 19*
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