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#1 thejuice

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 09:33 AM

I played two new balls in a tourney Sunday. Very dumb to play golf balls you're not used to in a competitive round, but I took the chance anyway. Finished 2nd in my flight so I did well enough to place. I played the Cut Blue for the front 9 and the Vice Pro for the back. For comparison's sake, I've been playing the Srixon QST and the Vice Pro Soft in tourneys this year.

Distance: I felt like both were good on distance. I couldn't tell a difference in distance with either ball from the QST, although I think the Pro Soft is longer than all of them (for me). I did notice the Vice Pro to be longer when I hit it on the screws (which I don't always do) than the Cut Blue. I need more rounds to see how I really feel about distance.

Compared to a review I did earlier comparing the Vice Pro Plus to the Pro Soft, I would put the Pro right there with the Pro Soft for me.  I think the Cut Blue was right there with the Pro Plus.  Just something about me and 3-piece urethane balls that work better than 4-piece balls.  


Feel: I know the Cut Blue is a 4-piece urethane ball compared to the 3-piece Vice Pro but I felt like the Cut Blue wasn't as firm as the Vice Pro Plus (which I also like) or the Pro V1x. I honestly liked the way it felt. I liked both off the putter (I use an EVNROLL). No huge differences in feel as the Vice Pro felt really nice and not as soft and marshmellowy as some other 3-piece urethane balls.

Durability: I can still play both balls for more holes to come. The Cut found a cart path during the front 9 and there was not one scratch on it. The Vice was not introduced to any trees or cart paths so I can't really say how well it would stand up to hard knocks, but it didn't scuff with full wedge shots (I use RTX 3.0 wedges).

Looks: I'm a guy that doesn't go for simple normally, but I do like the simple look of the Vice balls (I used the white ball for this round but I do like both the Lime and the Red balls too). The Cut seemed to appear larger (sort of the effect of a Truvis ball), which seemed to help with my ball striking. They both look nice and simple.

Overall: Six in one hand and a half dozen in the other for me. I like them both and think you can't go wrong with either. I think as golfers we have a really good problem in terms of the number of quality balls we have to choose from on the market. I haven't hit the Kirkland Signatures yet, but I heard they are great. Add in the Maxfli U series, Snell MTB, Cut, and Vice (I know I'm forgetting some other companies) and I can foresee Titleist either dropping the price of ProVs in the near future.

So for me and budget performance balls, I'd rank the ones I've played as
  • Vice Pro
  • Vice Pro Soft
  • Srixon QST (yes it's a budget ball because of it's performance and price)
  • Vice Pro Plus / Cut Blue (tie)
  • Maxfli U6x

I've yet to try the Snell or McG balls yet.  

Edited by thejuice, 22 August 2017 - 09:33 AM.

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#2 rcain1us

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 09:37 AM

I played a Vice Pro I found the other day next to the Snell MBT I was playing and really could not tell the difference in feel (didn't play enough holes with the vice to judge distances).

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 12:26 PM

Regarding the durability of the Cut Blue I've found that the cover tears really easily. And this is compared to chrome softs or B330RXS as those are the other two balls I play.
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 02:49 PM

View Postdnalepoca, on 22 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

Regarding the durability of the Cut Blue I've found that the cover tears really easily. And this is compared to chrome softs or B330RXS as those are the other two balls I play.

Tears how?  On wedge shots, tree hits, cart path bounces?  All of the above?
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 03:00 PM

View Postthejuice, on 22 August 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

View Postdnalepoca, on 22 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

Regarding the durability of the Cut Blue I've found that the cover tears really easily. And this is compared to chrome softs or B330RXS as those are the other two balls I play.
Tears how?  On wedge shots, tree hits, cart path bounces?  All of the above?
Any ball could tear from hitting a tree or cart path. Trust me I know this haha. Lost of time spent in the woods. But what I've noticed is that wedges especially tear it up. The last round I played I had lost a ball (oops) and put a new ball in play. Two holes later I had a 50 yard pitch shot into the green so I took my 60 and hit my pitch. It one hopped and stopped. I marked it to clean it and it was very obvious where I had struck the ball

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 03:27 PM

View Postdnalepoca, on 22 August 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

View Postthejuice, on 22 August 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

View Postdnalepoca, on 22 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

Regarding the durability of the Cut Blue I've found that the cover tears really easily. And this is compared to chrome softs or B330RXS as those are the other two balls I play.
Tears how?  On wedge shots, tree hits, cart path bounces?  All of the above?
Any ball could tear from hitting a tree or cart path. Trust me I know this haha. Lost of time spent in the woods. But what I've noticed is that wedges especially tear it up. The last round I played I had lost a ball (oops) and put a new ball in play. Two holes later I had a 50 yard pitch shot into the green so I took my 60 and hit my pitch. It one hopped and stopped. I marked it to clean it and it was very obvious where I had struck the ball

Dang!  That sucks!  I didn't experience that with my pitch shots.  I wonder if they might still be working through some QC issues with the ball.
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 03:31 PM

View Postthejuice, on 22 August 2017 - 03:27 PM, said:

View Postdnalepoca, on 22 August 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

View Postthejuice, on 22 August 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

View Postdnalepoca, on 22 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

Regarding the durability of the Cut Blue I've found that the cover tears really easily. And this is compared to chrome softs or B330RXS as those are the other two balls I play.
Tears how?  On wedge shots, tree hits, cart path bounces?  All of the above?
Any ball could tear from hitting a tree or cart path. Trust me I know this haha. Lost of time spent in the woods. But what I've noticed is that wedges especially tear it up. The last round I played I had lost a ball (oops) and put a new ball in play. Two holes later I had a 50 yard pitch shot into the green so I took my 60 and hit my pitch. It one hopped and stopped. I marked it to clean it and it was very obvious where I had struck the ball

Dang!  That sucks!  I didn't experience that with my pitch shots.  I wonder if they might still be working through some QC issues with the ball.
That's what I was wondering too. I still really like the ball. It just sucks that, in my experience, the durability isn't too great.
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 04:58 PM

View Postdnalepoca, on 22 August 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

View Postthejuice, on 22 August 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

View Postdnalepoca, on 22 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

Regarding the durability of the Cut Blue I've found that the cover tears really easily. And this is compared to chrome softs or B330RXS as those are the other two balls I play.
Tears how?  On wedge shots, tree hits, cart path bounces?  All of the above?
Any ball could tear from hitting a tree or cart path. Trust me I know this haha. Lost of time spent in the woods. But what I've noticed is that wedges especially tear it up. The last round I played I had lost a ball (oops) and put a new ball in play. Two holes later I had a 50 yard pitch shot into the green so I took my 60 and hit my pitch. It one hopped and stopped. I marked it to clean it and it was very obvious where I had struck the ball
That reminds me of the old days when I played the Precept extra spin. A clean hit with a wedge would leave it with huge shark gills and pieces of cover in the grooves. For a two piece surlyn they had plenty of bite, but after 9 holes they would be shredded.

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 07:02 PM

I just picked up 3 dozen CUT Blues too give them a spin. I wasn't a fan of the Vice and its durability, Snell MTB was far better and overall good ball. I'm intrigued by these direct to consumer products. I would love to find a boutique ball and not look back.  BB

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 01:39 PM

View PostBig Ben, on 22 August 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

I just picked up 3 dozen CUT Blues too give them a spin. I wasn't a fan of the Vice and its durability, Snell MTB was far better and overall good ball. I'm intrigued by these direct to consumer products. I would love to find a boutique ball and not look back.  BB
I found the Snell MTB to be the best "Boutique" ball, better than the Vice balls in performance and Durability.  What was ur Opinion of the cut products?  I haven't tried the Cut Balls yet.--TM

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 07:57 PM

Tried the Snell for the first time yesterday and was really impressed. Only played 6 holes so I need more time with it.  

Anyway, I have been looking for the vice pro soft in lime and haven't found any. I've never heard of cut, but I'll look for some of these too.  Thanks for the info/review.
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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:34 PM

Vice fan here, wasn't a great experience with the cuts. Need to try smells soon. I just love that there are more options these days
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Posted 04 November 2017 - 08:05 PM

 shuddleston, on 16 October 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Vice fan here, wasn't a great experience with the cuts. Need to try smells soon. I just love that there are more options these days

I agree.  I usually play a Taylormade TP5x or Vice Pro but tried both the Snell MTB and the Cut blue this week.  The Snells were fantastic, better than the vice in my opinion (same distance at TP5x, soft feel off of putter, good spin off wedge, slightly softer feel than V1x off driver).  I thought the Cut ball was way too firm off of the driver - my playing partner actually asked if I bought a new club because it "sounded like I was hitting a rock".   Spun ok off of the irons/wedge, felt too firm off of the putter as well.  I think the Vice Drive is actually a much better cheap ball for your money.  And definitely give the Snell MTB a look - they are the best balls I've come across this year for the money (haven't played KSigs)

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 01:20 PM

 thejuice, on 22 August 2017 - 09:33 AM, said:

I played two new balls in a tourney Sunday. Very dumb to play golf balls you're not used to in a competitive round, but I took the chance anyway. Finished 2nd in my flight so I did well enough to place. I played the Cut Blue for the front 9 and the Vice Pro for the back. For comparison's sake, I've been playing the Srixon QST and the Vice Pro Soft in tourneys this year.

Distance: I felt like both were good on distance. I couldn't tell a difference in distance with either ball from the QST, although I think the Pro Soft is longer than all of them (for me). I did notice the Vice Pro to be longer when I hit it on the screws (which I don't always do) than the Cut Blue. I need more rounds to see how I really feel about distance.

Compared to a review I did earlier comparing the Vice Pro Plus to the Pro Soft, I would put the Pro right there with the Pro Soft for me.  I think the Cut Blue was right there with the Pro Plus.  Just something about me and 3-piece urethane balls that work better than 4-piece balls.  


Feel: I know the Cut Blue is a 4-piece urethane ball compared to the 3-piece Vice Pro but I felt like the Cut Blue wasn't as firm as the Vice Pro Plus (which I also like) or the Pro V1x. I honestly liked the way it felt. I liked both off the putter (I use an EVNROLL). No huge differences in feel as the Vice Pro felt really nice and not as soft and marshmellowy as some other 3-piece urethane balls.

Durability: I can still play both balls for more holes to come. The Cut found a cart path during the front 9 and there was not one scratch on it. The Vice was not introduced to any trees or cart paths so I can't really say how well it would stand up to hard knocks, but it didn't scuff with full wedge shots (I use RTX 3.0 wedges).

Looks: I'm a guy that doesn't go for simple normally, but I do like the simple look of the Vice balls (I used the white ball for this round but I do like both the Lime and the Red balls too). The Cut seemed to appear larger (sort of the effect of a Truvis ball), which seemed to help with my ball striking. They both look nice and simple.

Overall: Six in one hand and a half dozen in the other for me. I like them both and think you can't go wrong with either. I think as golfers we have a really good problem in terms of the number of quality balls we have to choose from on the market. I haven't hit the Kirkland Signatures yet, but I heard they are great. Add in the Maxfli U series, Snell MTB, Cut, and Vice (I know I'm forgetting some other companies) and I can foresee Titleist either dropping the price of ProVs in the near future.

So for me and budget performance balls, I'd rank the ones I've played as
  • Vice Pro
  • Vice Pro Soft
  • Srixon QST (yes it's a budget ball because of it's performance and price)
  • Vice Pro Plus / Cut Blue (tie)
  • Maxfli U6x

I've yet to try the Snell or McG balls yet.  

I agree that we have excellent options at half the price of Titleist ProVs. I don't see any way they can hold their pricing where it is today and not suffer severe market share declines over time. As the word spreads, as it certainly will with social media, more and more golfers will hear about and try these new ball offerings and quickly conclude in many cases that it is idiotic to spend almost $4.00/ball when equal or almost equal quality balls can be purchased for half or more than half the price of Titleist ProVs or Callaways,or Taylormade etc.

By the way I love the Vice and Kirkland Sig balls but you should give Snell a try. They are excellent as well.

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 01:47 PM

i tried cut blue and like them better than the vice balls.  i think they are longer off tee and spin better on greenside shots than both original snell ball and  vices.  ive heard some people complaining about Cut durability.  in my experience it is better than the Vice in durability... as Vice balls i bought were discolored/beat up after a round or two.  I do want to try new Snell ball 4 piece , but its 28/31 a dozen versus $20 for cut 4 piece....it'd have to be(new Snell) on par w pro vx for me to spend 10-12 more per dozen than Cut Blue.

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:13 PM

Off topic, Isn't switching balls during a tournament round against the rules? Dont you have to continue playing the same type of ball you started with?

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:34 PM

 AC-Golf, on 14 October 2017 - 07:57 PM, said:

Tried the Snell for the first time yesterday and was really impressed. Only played 6 holes so I need more time with it.  

Anyway, I have been looking for the vice pro soft in lime and haven't found any. I've never heard of cut, but I'll look for some of these too.  Thanks for the info/review.
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Posted 08 July 2018 - 09:36 PM

 FlaBoy239, on 08 July 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

Off topic, Isn't switching balls during a tournament round against the rules? Dont you have to continue playing the same type of ball you started with?
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