NYC243, on 22 August 2017 - 12:59 AM, said:
Krt22, on 22 August 2017 - 12:15 AM, said:
NYC243, on 21 August 2017 - 08:51 PM, said:
of course its related and relevant. if it wasnt why would the pga not let players use all and any tech that is available to them?
grooves and anchored putters are results of technology, so are rangefinders and gps. pants however have been around a lot longer.....
the fact that the pga makes these things illegal defines the point that there is a limit to what they will and wont allow, which nobody seems to want to answer.
if it didnt matter, why not make anything that helps all players legal?
Why wont you answer my question as to why the PGA allows the use of range finders during practice rounds if they were truly only illegal because of the technological advantage you think they provide? The truth is every single pro and their caddies use range finders before a tournament during practice/prep days (even with slope calcs). What is the difference between having an extremely detailed yardage book with multiple distances to landmarks vs simply doing the measurement on the spot?
you need to ask the usga that, bc it doesnt make any sense to allow it in practices but not in competition to me. theyre contradicting themselves with that ruling.
but maybe theres advantages that getting a reading during play can yield as opposed to having to do it beforehand. i cant answer that one, unless you know the reason?
either way i stand by my original point that nobody NEEDS this stuff to be a better golfer. it just make it easier and faster to get there.
im sure sam snead would have won more tournaments had he known exact laser pointed yardages as someone pointed out.
the question is, is that where the game should go? technology driven precision to the point of becoming robotic, calculated and formula?
the usga is giving into some of it which they need to to stay relevant and up to date. after all it is a business. but theyre also trying to maintain some level of integrity to the sport on which it was founded.
time will only tell where it all goes...
I think your way of thinking is completely backward. We are trying to grow an ever shrinking game and a large part of the problem is slow play caused by people not knowing the course (I understand there are many other factors to this also).
However, why is it not acceptable that we and tour pros alike cannot use a rangefinder to speed up the process of finding yardageís to certain points if they are just going to come to the same outcome anyway by not using technology. You say that golfers used to be more skilled, I completely disagree technology has given us a massive leap in understanding of the fundamentals on Golf - I mean look at the technology Ping has with ping man and envo the camera system - this allows us to understand the game and how we can improve the skill of the game.
What you fail to understand is that technology has not removed any of the skill, yes hickory clubs were harder to hit and ball technology has improved to but the difficulty of the course has dramatically increased to to counteract that. By knowing a yardage or having a wedge that spins a bit more than an old one or a driver which offers a bit more forgiveness than your hickory one doesnít mean that skill has gone from the game it means that skill has to be seen in different ways.
The skill is getting the best results from whatís available and thatís what your players for all of time have done with what has been at there hands. Just because DJ knows a yardage doesnít mean he isnít skilled to hit it that exact number that is the skill in his case. The skill in sneaks case was estimating how far he had to hit it. Skill is a too broad term and can only be applied for that situation it is how you utilise what is available and then your skill is getting the best outcome from that.
Do you really think people want to watch Rory JT Ricky etc hit hickory clubs going 230 yards and then not knowing how far there next shot is. The best thing about Golf is our awe at the good shots they play. That what makes professional golf exciting and when you eliminate there accuracy and the tools which time has made available then what is the point in industry I general if you want us all to live in 1952?