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#1 Ace2000

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:27 PM

Anyone want to venture to explain his debacle at the 18th hole? One of the most peculiar decisions I've ever seen a pro make (when in contention)... Utterly shambolic.

He could have chipped out and made a bogey...

I was actually rooting for Jason at that point to win since Rory's got no chance. Was baffled by the fact Col Swatton allowed him to even try it!!

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:34 PM

Yeah, it was crazy. Once he started clearing out the people up the right side, I thought, okay-within 5 seconds Swatton will call him off this shot... went outside to play with my kids, came back in to a slew of texts about the 8, so rewatched on dvr. Bogey kept him in the thick of it, quad killed his chances.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:40 PM

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:53 PM

I'd expect Phil to attempt this shot, without Bones.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:53 PM

Yeah that was hard to watch....

As a lifelong mentor, Collin needed to step in and end that madness before it escalated.

He could've gone into Sunday within a couple shots of the lead.

Now it just caps off a lost year for the former #1...


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:19 PM

View PostJ13, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
Or Mickelson hitting driver in the final round on the 18th hole @ Winged Foot in the 2006 US Open while leading. He almost knocked over the merchandise tent 75 yards left of the fairway. This was after he hit his driver into a garbage can on the 71st hole. Then his 2nd shot after his drive on 18 was just as horrific. Both worse than what Day did today considering the circumstances.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:38 PM

I guess other than JD and maybe his caddie, I'm the only one who thought it was the right play. If he chipped out to fairway he's still looking at a shot of some length, meaning bogey was not a given. If he executed the shot he wanted he'd be up by the green, in the bunkers or just right of them. From there bogey is a given and par is a possibility. The problem was the stance when his foot slip. If he made a mistake it was not recognizing the slippery pine straw. I also wonder if they were considered loose impediments and could have been cleared.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:40 PM

He's not that bright. Though, I would've done the same stupid thing.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:47 PM

I think it unfair to suggest that the attempted shot was "stupid"--pro golfers, especially at his level, know how to work a shot and Day obviously saw something in that drive's lie that caused him to take a risk that turned out to be a bad, bad shot.
I understand the frustration if you are a Day fan, that quad hurts and has probably taken him out of contention but what if he had pulled it off?  One shot does not make Day a goat or a hero.  His choice based on what he saw and what he thought he could do--he buys his ticket and he takes his ride.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:59 PM

View Postgrm24, on 12 August 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

View PostJ13, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
Or Mickelson hitting driver in the final round on the 18th hole @ Winged Foot in the 2006 US Open while leading. He almost knocked over the merchandise tent 75 yards left of the fairway. This was after he hit his driver into a garbage can on the 71st hole. Then his 2nd shot after his drive on 18 was just as horrific. Both worse than what Day did today considering the circumstances.
If Phil had Tiger or Jacks brain standing on that tee he would have pulled a long iron and played it like a short par 5 with a flip onto the green for three and a makeable par putt only needing to get down in 2 for the playoff. Hindsight is 20/20 but that was a no brainer.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:00 PM

View Postbigchucksr, on 12 August 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

I think it unfair to suggest that the attempted shot was "stupid"--pro golfers, especially at his level, know how to work a shot and Day obviously saw something in that drive's lie that caused him to take a risk that turned out to be a bad, bad shot.
I understand the frustration if you are a Day fan, that quad hurts and has probably taken him out of contention but what if he had pulled it off?  One shot does not make Day a goat or a hero.  His choice based on what he saw and what he thought he could do--he buys his ticket and he takes his ride.

You are right. I was just commenting my extreme surprise at the fact he attempted it in a situation like that. From the angle on tv even with the amount he could have curved it, even if he'd have pulled it off he'd have still had a 40yd pitch from rough to a downhill sloping green with the creek past it. I just didn't see much to be gained. IMO he could have probably hit a 140 yd wedge shot from the fwy inside 20ft quite easily.

I'm not sore about it (Rory's my man :). But I was shocked to see him so quickly decide to try it. Just my 2 cents anyway.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:00 PM

I was surprised/impressed by his demeanor during the round, he was smiling pretty constantly, even after bad shots or bad results. I thought, "Hey, what a great attitude!". Then after watching 18, where he continued to smile despite all the horrible results, I began to really wonder if he is on drugs, or otherwise completely out of touch with reality. Leaving immediately after the round without talking to the media reinforces the questions about his thought process. Bizarre is about the best you can say.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:09 PM

View PostJD3, on 12 August 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

I guess other than JD and maybe his caddie, I'm the only one who thought it was the right play. If he chipped out to fairway he's still looking at a shot of some length, meaning bogey was not a given. If he executed the shot he wanted he'd be up by the green, in the bunkers or just right of them. From there bogey is a given and par is a possibility. The problem was the stance when his foot slip. If he made a mistake it was not recognizing the slippery pine straw. I also wonder if they were considered loose impediments and could have been cleared.

Louie made par from nearly the same spot. Day had 185 in and could have chipped out to 160 or so. 9 iron to the middle of the green and 2 putts. -3 instead of even and still in it.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:20 PM

Spieth did something similar on 18 and walked away with a double.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:28 PM

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I was surprised/impressed by his demeanor during the round, he was smiling pretty constantly, even after bad shots or bad results. I thought, "Hey, what a great attitude!". Then after watching 18, where he continued to smile despite all the horrible results, I began to really wonder if he is on drugs, or otherwise completely out of touch with reality. Leaving immediately after the round without talking to the media reinforces the questions about his thought process. Bizarre is about the best you can say.
Or maybe because there is something else going on in his life that makes him realize some things are life and death but golf is not one of them?
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:31 PM

that was one of the most dumbest decision making i've ever seen. Had a ton of respect for him..i was pulling for him but ..he is on his own now
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:43 PM

View PostGhost of Snead, on 12 August 2017 - 11:09 PM, said:

View PostJD3, on 12 August 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

I guess other than JD and maybe his caddie, I'm the only one who thought it was the right play. If he chipped out to fairway he's still looking at a shot of some length, meaning bogey was not a given. If he executed the shot he wanted he'd be up by the green, in the bunkers or just right of them. From there bogey is a given and par is a possibility. The problem was the stance when his foot slip. If he made a mistake it was not recognizing the slippery pine straw. I also wonder if they were considered loose impediments and could have been cleared.

Louie made par from nearly the same spot. Day had 185 in and could have chipped out to 160 or so. 9 iron to the middle of the green and 2 putts. -3 instead of even and still in it.
I didnt see Shrek's 18th but I doubt all the circumstances were exactly the same. And even so it doesn't mean JD's decision was the incorrect one. Have to look at it over a series of observations, not just one each. JD's trying to win a tournament at the highest level possible. To do so you have to play b@##s out, and take some chances.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:19 AM

View PostJD3, on 12 August 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

I guess other than JD and maybe his caddie, I'm the only one who thought it was the right play. If he chipped out to fairway he's still looking at a shot of some length, meaning bogey was not a given. If he executed the shot he wanted he'd be up by the green, in the bunkers or just right of them. From there bogey is a given and par is a possibility. The problem was the stance when his foot slip. If he made a mistake it was not recognizing the slippery pine straw. I also wonder if they were considered loose impediments and could have been cleared.
bunkers or rough bogey is not a given because you saw on RD1 and RD3 (RD2 before the rain) how many 3 putts happened. The idea of hitting JD shot would have been less than terrible only if he had a free followthrough, which he didn't. He knew he would have hit the tree just after impact.
He wasn't hoping to land it on the green for sure, just being greedy.
I love JD but that was a terrible decision

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:24 AM

View Post32quattro, on 13 August 2017 - 12:19 AM, said:

View PostJD3, on 12 August 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

I guess other than JD and maybe his caddie, I'm the only one who thought it was the right play. If he chipped out to fairway he's still looking at a shot of some length, meaning bogey was not a given. If he executed the shot he wanted he'd be up by the green, in the bunkers or just right of them. From there bogey is a given and par is a possibility. The problem was the stance when his foot slip. If he made a mistake it was not recognizing the slippery pine straw. I also wonder if they were considered loose impediments and could have been cleared.
bunkers or rough bogey is not a given because you saw on RD1 and RD3 how many 3 putts happened. The idea of hitting JD shot would have been less than terrible only if he had a free followthrough, which he didn't. He knew he would have hit the tree just after impact.
He wasn't hoping to land it on the green for sure, just being greedy.
I love JD but that was a terrible decision and a well deserved 8.
Fewer putts on average the closer one is to the hole. I bet if you polled a hundred players 99 would rather a have a greenside bunker shot with a lot of green to work with, then 160 yards out to get it up and down. You saw what Kisner did from there. Also consider JD was fighting the lefts for most of the back nine, tugging into the creek might also have been a reasonable consideration in his mind for why he didnt chip back out.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:35 AM

I just saw that, 322 carry with 180mph ballspeed ? Why would they inflate the trackman numbers ?

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:42 AM

 grm24, on 12 August 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

 J13, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
Or Mickelson hitting driver in the final round on the 18th hole @ Winged Foot in the 2006 US Open while leading. He almost knocked over the merchandise tent 75 yards left of the fairway. This was after he hit his driver into a garbage can on the 71st hole. Then his 2nd shot after his drive on 18 was just as horrific. Both worse than what Day did today considering the circumstances.

The drive didnt lose him the US Open at winged foot it was his second at 18.Thats were bones should have walked in front of him and told him heres a 7 or 8 iron. put it 15-20 yards short of the green in the fairway and pitch it to 5-6 feet. putt to win 2 putt for 18 hole playoff. Youre Phil freaking Mickelson top 3 short game all time, youll get up and down 8 times out of 10 from 15 yards short of the green

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:15 AM

 playa, on 12 August 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

 grm24, on 12 August 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

 J13, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
Or Mickelson hitting driver in the final round on the 18th hole @ Winged Foot in the 2006 US Open while leading. He almost knocked over the merchandise tent 75 yards left of the fairway. This was after he hit his driver into a garbage can on the 71st hole. Then his 2nd shot after his drive on 18 was just as horrific. Both worse than what Day did today considering the circumstances.
If Phil had Tiger or Jacks brain standing on that tee he would have pulled a long iron and played it like a short par 5 with a flip onto the green for three and a makeable par putt only needing to get down in 2 for the playoff. Hindsight is 20/20 but that was a no brainer.

He was riding high after making that ridiculous par after slicing a 3 iron onto the green at 17. He had just won the last 2 majors 2005 PGA, 2006 Masters. Nobody was taking driver out of his hand, its the second shot that killed him. His wife should have tackled him to save him from himself. Johnny Miller said it best, you dont have to ride the white stallion across the finish line



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:20 AM

 lowheel, on 13 August 2017 - 01:15 AM, said:

 playa, on 12 August 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

 grm24, on 12 August 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

 J13, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
Or Mickelson hitting driver in the final round on the 18th hole @ Winged Foot in the 2006 US Open while leading. He almost knocked over the merchandise tent 75 yards left of the fairway. This was after he hit his driver into a garbage can on the 71st hole. Then his 2nd shot after his drive on 18 was just as horrific. Both worse than what Day did today considering the circumstances.
If Phil had Tiger or Jacks brain standing on that tee he would have pulled a long iron and played it like a short par 5 with a flip onto the green for three and a makeable par putt only needing to get down in 2 for the playoff. Hindsight is 20/20 but that was a no brainer.

He was riding high after making that ridiculous par after slicing a 3 iron onto the green at 17. He had just won the last 2 majors 2005 PGA, 2006 Masters. Nobody was taking driver out of his hand, its the second shot that killed him. His wife should have tackled him to save him from himself. Johnny Miller said it best, you dont have to ride the white stallion across the finish line


I guess I like be the contrarian, because like JD yesterday, I also think Phil made the right decision, it was the execution that cost him. Chipping out to the fairway still leaves him a shot of some length into the green. We saw how guys from the middle of the fairway w/ short irons like Monty couldn't get on. His thought process was to hit the 3 iron worst case somewhere around the green where he'd have a better chance at making a 4 than middle then from fairway with a mid-iron. Problem was he hit his 3 iron right smack in the middle of a tree. Thats the part from a pro you wouldn't expect
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:39 AM

 JD3, on 13 August 2017 - 01:20 AM, said:

 lowheel, on 13 August 2017 - 01:15 AM, said:

 playa, on 12 August 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

 grm24, on 12 August 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

 J13, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
Or Mickelson hitting driver in the final round on the 18th hole @ Winged Foot in the 2006 US Open while leading. He almost knocked over the merchandise tent 75 yards left of the fairway. This was after he hit his driver into a garbage can on the 71st hole. Then his 2nd shot after his drive on 18 was just as horrific. Both worse than what Day did today considering the circumstances.
If Phil had Tiger or Jacks brain standing on that tee he would have pulled a long iron and played it like a short par 5 with a flip onto the green for three and a makeable par putt only needing to get down in 2 for the playoff. Hindsight is 20/20 but that was a no brainer.

He was riding high after making that ridiculous par after slicing a 3 iron onto the green at 17. He had just won the last 2 majors 2005 PGA, 2006 Masters. Nobody was taking driver out of his hand, its the second shot that killed him. His wife should have tackled him to save him from himself. Johnny Miller said it best, you dont have to ride the white stallion across the finish line


I guess I like be the contrarian, because like JD yesterday, I also think Phil made the right decision, it was the execution that cost him. Chipping out to the fairway still leaves him a shot of some length into the green. We saw how guys from the middle of the fairway w/ short irons like Monty couldn't get on. His thought process was to hit the 3 iron worst case somewhere around the green where he'd have a better chance at making a 4 than middle then from fairway with a mid-iron. Problem was he hit his 3 iron right smack in the middle of a tree. Thats the part from a pro you wouldn't expect

It's amazing how quickly he played the 2nd and 3rd shots, given the situation.  Or maybe we're just used to seeing 5 minute conversations between the player and caddy over every shot now.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:58 AM

 whr, on 13 August 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

It's amazing how quickly he played the 2nd and 3rd shots, given the situation.  Or maybe we're just used to seeing 5 minute conversations between the player and caddy over every shot now.
amazing how out of shape he was then too. maybe not so obvious on TV, but I was there Saturday. Tiger missed cut so galleries were thin. Followed Phil for most of back 9, he was fat and fatigued looking. Maybe he was thinking gotta make 4 here, no way i can go another 18 tomorrow ... lol

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 02:20 AM

 grm24, on 12 August 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

 J13, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
Or Mickelson hitting driver in the final round on the 18th hole @ Winged Foot in the 2006 US Open while leading. He almost knocked over the merchandise tent 75 yards left of the fairway. This was after he hit his driver into a garbage can on the 71st hole. Then his 2nd shot after his drive on 18 was just as horrific. Both worse than what Day did today considering the circumstances.

actually he has said many times that he could not make the beginning of the fairway with a three wood... driver was his only play.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 04:19 AM

Phil has said many times that the bone head decision wasn't the driver but rather the second shot.

Day made an idiotic decision. We aren't the only ones saying it, major champion and former world #1 Duval says so as well.

what really bothered me was how quickly he played it. He didn't bother properly clearing the crowd or walking up to see what he had. Honestly on top of Everything he could have killed someone, he basically fired a low slinging hook blindly into a crowd of people.

Edited by nicoy3k, 13 August 2017 - 04:22 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 04:34 AM

 grm24, on 12 August 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

 J13, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

The second shot was maybe the dumbest in major history right behind Jean Van de Velde in the British.
Or Mickelson hitting driver in the final round on the 18th hole @ Winged Foot in the 2006 US Open while leading. He almost knocked over the merchandise tent 75 yards left of the fairway. This was after he hit his driver into a garbage can on the 71st hole. Then his 2nd shot after his drive on 18 was just as horrific. Both worse than what Day did today considering the circumstances.

No freaking way.  Deciding to hit a common club off the tee is in no way comparable to trying to hit a duck hook around trees just to get into the rough 40 yards of a tough flag.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 04:36 AM

 Ace2000, on 12 August 2017 - 11:00 PM, said:

 bigchucksr, on 12 August 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

I think it unfair to suggest that the attempted shot was "stupid"--pro golfers, especially at his level, know how to work a shot and Day obviously saw something in that drive's lie that caused him to take a risk that turned out to be a bad, bad shot.
I understand the frustration if you are a Day fan, that quad hurts and has probably taken him out of contention but what if he had pulled it off?  One shot does not make Day a goat or a hero.  His choice based on what he saw and what he thought he could do--he buys his ticket and he takes his ride.

You are right. I was just commenting my extreme surprise at the fact he attempted it in a situation like that. From the angle on tv even with the amount he could have curved it, even if he'd have pulled it off he'd have still had a 40yd pitch from rough to a downhill sloping green with the creek past it. I just didn't see much to be gained. IMO he could have probably hit a 140 yd wedge shot from the fwy inside 20ft quite easily.

I'm not sore about it (Rory's my man :). But I was shocked to see him so quickly decide to try it. Just my 2 cents anyway.

Yep.. The best case scenario was a 40 yard chip from the rough into a sickly green.

DUMBEST decision of all time.


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