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#61 larrybud

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:29 PM

View Postbigjohntripod, on 16 August 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Driving it 350 is cool and all but how bout that 5 footer he misses for par?

I've seen a bunch of people pound the ball, all were terrible putters.

Guy I played with once, took him 2 shots to go 600 yards, another 4 to go 20 feet.

Short game > Long drives

I'll never understand the fascination with Driver numbers.

I'm convinced I'd easily be a +2 if I could hit the driver like a couple of my buddies.   They're almost always 40-50 ahead of me.


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:41 PM

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:44 PM

This reminds me of a time I played down at Porto Cima in Missouri, fantastic course btw. My cousin and I were probably both high single digit/low teen handicaps, plenty long but a bit wild off the tee.

We get to the first tee and the starter sees us going to the 2nd furthest tee box. He basically gasps and says, "Its' 7,000 yards from there, can you hit it that far?"

My cousin immediately replied with, "Not in one shot". Then he striped one down the fairway, it was awesome. I then hit mine OB and it was not awesome.

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:39 PM

In one shot?

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:06 PM

View Postgripandrip, on 16 August 2017 - 12:48 PM, said:

View Postgolferdrmjr, on 12 August 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

My theory is you're drawing the wrong conclusion, based on wrong or insufficient data. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. :-)

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 07:14 PM

View PostHatsForBats, on 16 August 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:

View Postbigjohntripod, on 16 August 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Driving it 350 is cool and all but how bout that 5 footer he misses for par?

I've seen a bunch of people pound the ball, all were terrible putters.

Guy I played with once, took him 2 shots to go 600 yards, another 4 to go 20 feet.

Short game > Long drives

I'll never understand the fascination with Driver numbers.

Nah long drives are just as important. I played with two randoms this weekend that suffered due to their lack of distance. Sure they could get up and down pretty well but not nearly enough to anywhere make up for their lack of distance.

What kind of courses are you playing that you have never seen a player that can hit the ball far and putt well? It's a fun thing to witness.

Houston, SoCal, and Florida courses, from 6900-7200 yards. If they suffered from distance, maybe they're playing the wrong Tees. That's why there's options on the Tees, usually 3-4 options. They wouldn't have had distance issues had they moved up one. Hitting the ball 250 on a 460 yard par 4 leaves a 210 yard second shot, I don't think "that guy" is going to have a fun day. Move him 60 yards up and it's more manageable.

I got no problem with what people want to think, I encourage it. I just think different on distance vs. putting.
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 10:10 PM

View PostBomber_11, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

I think it's a couple of things.

1. Through the anonymity of the internet, you can claim anything you want to.

2. A lot of people don't have a realistic idea of how far they hit it. I have a buddy who consistently guesses his drives at 280 and my drives at 340. In reality I'm 300 and he's 240 lol.

3. Folks claim their all time longest drive as their new yardage. It's like shooting 71 once and claiming you're a +1.

4. Some people aren't lying and really do hit it as far as they say they do.

Hitting the ball 300 w/ accuracy and consistency is the real kicker though. It isn't impossible, but realistically - for an amateur to consistently hit it past 300 and in the short grass isn't the norm. At my club, I'd say there's a 8-10 golfers out of hundreds who have that ability.

That being said, "how far do you hit it?" in golf is the same as "how much do you bench?" at the gym. It's the long dick measuring formula.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:55 PM

I play with mostly guys my age and we hit it similar old man distances
but once in awhile have played with some younger bombers. I never
see them bragging.

We're playing a par 5 at 525 yards. The young bomber hits from the
back tees where the hole is near 600 yards and hits driver/4 iron on
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Some people doubt distances because they don't see it because most
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:55 PM

What's wrong with a half wedge?

Anywho, I'm "sneaky" long, IMO. I have a similar build to most of the golf peers I play with, but just as I've done in every athletic endeavor as a 5'10" skinny guy, I just work on good technique and ideal impact. This included shortening my shaft and working on positive AoA with the driver. I also play a SuperSoft, which according to ball spin charts from users on this site have posted, has ~300 rpm less spin off the driver.

When it comes to irons, what I notice most is my effective loft at impact is less than my peers, because of my forward shaft lean. They lack forward shaft lean, and don't de-loft the club. De-lofting can easily turn a 9 into an 8, and so on.

Once in a while, a guy will smoke one and it's because he unknowingly de-lofted. Unfortunately, he thinks this is his new distance.

There have been times I've caught myself "losing" distance with my irons. Lo and behold, I check my setup, and guess who is missing the forward shaft lean?
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Posted 19 August 2017 - 12:39 AM

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 12:49 AM

I don't believe at any time in golf history have the very longest hitters actually been on the PGA Tour. If that is true today, then there are plenty out there able to hit it 350...
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Posted 19 August 2017 - 03:49 AM

View Postdgarland, on 12 August 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

It's a legitimate question... I didn't realize that it had been discussed in great detail.  As you can see I don't post much in the forums.  It just seems like the average driving distance of an internet-user is far beyond what I see from day to day.  I understand there are people that can hit it that far, but they are extremely rare.  If this topic doesn't interest you then why read it and reply?  Do I just play at a course where the shortest hitters on the planet play?

I understand completely. I feel inadequate on here at times - My best ever drive rolled out to 285 yards - measured with my watch - and I took a photo to prove it!

My 7 iron is 150 - that's an XR 7 iron. My 7!iron has always been 150 so I imagine the new club tech has cancelled out the ageing process.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 10:56 AM

With my 2016 M2 I now hit my driver 305yd on average, with sometimes rolling to 340. It's great sometimes, but like OP wondered, I'm left sometimes with some awkward distances in, so I now rethink when to use it and when to use something else for course management.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:21 PM

Lately mine are IN the trees as they gain altitude, so who the hell knows how far they could actually go...



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:50 PM

View Postdgarland, on 12 August 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

From browsing the forums here and Facebook comment sections I can conclude that most golfers drive the ball far in excess of 300 yards and can easily carry mid irons 200 yards under normal conditions.  My question is this:  How does one who hits it such distances avoid leaving themselves half wedges into most of the par 4's?  Take a "normal" length par 4 of 400 or so yards.  If you hit it 330 off the tee (which seems well within the capacity of lots of posters here) you are left with approximately 70 yards.  Now for a guy who hits it 330 off the tee it seems highly unlikely that will be anywhere near a full swing with even the highest lofted wedge.  I'm guessing that if you drive it 330 with a swing speed in the 120ish range your 150 club is some sort of wedge.  Even if it's the lowest lofted wedge in your bag, let's say a PW at 46ish degrees, that means your next wedge is in the 50-52 degree range at 140ish, sand wedge at 130ish, lob wedge at 120ish.  Do you play on courses much longer than most?  Do you hit an iron off the tee on par 4's shorter than 450?  Do you just swing harder and drive the green so you don't have to hit a half wedge?

Learn to love half wedges instead of avoiding them!  I hit a half PW as my stock 100 yard club even though I could hit a full 54.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:52 PM

ME? 351 (carry) !!!  :wave:

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 04:04 PM

View Postlarrybud, on 16 August 2017 - 01:29 PM, said:

View Postbigjohntripod, on 16 August 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Driving it 350 is cool and all but how bout that 5 footer he misses for par?

I've seen a bunch of people pound the ball, all were terrible putters.

Guy I played with once, took him 2 shots to go 600 yards, another 4 to go 20 feet.

Short game > Long drives

I'll never understand the fascination with Driver numbers.

I'm convinced I'd easily be a +2 if I could hit the driver like a couple of my buddies.   They're almost always 40-50 ahead of me.

I'm convinced I could be a +2 if I had the short game skills of a couple of my buddies.  I'm always well past them.  :swoon:
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Posted 20 August 2017 - 04:18 PM

View Postbigjohntripod, on 16 August 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Driving it 350 is cool and all but how bout that 5 footer he misses for par?

I've seen a bunch of people pound the ball, all were terrible putters.

Guy I played with once, took him 2 shots to go 600 yards, another 4 to go 20 feet.

Short game > Long drives

I'll never understand the fascination with Driver numbers.

Well I've played with dozens and dozens of short hitters who can't make a 5ft putt.  Maybe just because the guys you've seen pound the ball, you pay closer attention to his game to look for something to criticize?
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Posted 20 August 2017 - 05:08 PM

View PostBomber_11, on 12 August 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

I think it's a couple of things.

1. Through the anonymity of the internet, you can claim anything you want to.

2. A lot of people don't have a realistic idea of how far they hit it. I have a buddy who consistently guesses his drives at 280 and my drives at 340. In reality I'm 300 and he's 240 lol.

3. Folks claim their all time longest drive as their new yardage. It's like shooting 71 once and claiming you're a +1.

4. Some people aren't lying and really do hit it as far as they say they do.

Hitting the ball 300 w/ accuracy and consistency is the real kicker though. It isn't impossible, but realistically - for an amateur to consistently hit it past 300 and in the short grass isn't the norm. At my club, I'd say there's a 8-10 golfers out of hundreds who have that ability.

That being said, "how far do you hit it?" in golf is the same as "how much do you bench?" at the gym. It's the long dick measuring formula.


I definitely couldn't claim my longest drive as my average, no way I'm hitting it 360 all the time :swoon: I think I must have hit a sprinkler cover or something! But it was the middle of summer and it hadn't rained for a few weeks so the course was bone dry.....

I think a lot of the super long hitters are probably playing on courses like that, I play links usually and if theres no wind I can get a good 270-280 out of my 3 wood including roll out and up to 320 with the driver (would like to think I'm carrying 270-280 given SS but no idea), but I have no ability to measure how much of that is carry and how much is roll out.....the links layout is a bit misleading as sometimes you might catch a downslope in the fairway or a small hump and end up shorter or longer than you thought

Also cant do it consistently with any accuracy, I'm a 1/5 kinda driver.....as in one straight one to 4 others that can only be described as kaka, doodoo, poop.....long ish but probably way off in the rough or OB
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Posted 20 August 2017 - 05:24 PM

One thing that i do find very interesting....or maybe interesting is the wrong word. Predictable would be a word....

I have seen on this forum many claims that might seem improbably to some:

1) Guys who claim to hit it very long distances
2) Higher index players who claim to be great ballstrikers and only their short game holds them back

Both of those seem unlikely to some, and both can be quickly addressed with swing videos. In all of my years here, i have NEVER seen anyone request that a higher index player who says he's a great ballstriker post a video. I have seen it 100+ times with guys who claim long distances

People seem FAR more concerned with disproving the distance claims. I wonder why that is. (not really, we already know the answer)

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 06:37 PM

View Postdgarland, on 12 August 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

From browsing the forums here and Facebook comment sections I can conclude that most golfers drive the ball far in excess of 300 yards and can easily carry mid irons 200 yards under normal conditions.  My question is this:  How does one who hits it such distances avoid leaving themselves half wedges into most of the par 4's?  Take a "normal" length par 4 of 400 or so yards.  If you hit it 330 off the tee (which seems well within the capacity of lots of posters here) you are left with approximately 70 yards.  Now for a guy who hits it 330 off the tee it seems highly unlikely that will be anywhere near a full swing with even the highest lofted wedge.  I'm guessing that if you drive it 330 with a swing speed in the 120ish range your 150 club is some sort of wedge.  Even if it's the lowest lofted wedge in your bag, let's say a PW at 46ish degrees, that means your next wedge is in the 50-52 degree range at 140ish, sand wedge at 130ish, lob wedge at 120ish.  Do you play on courses much longer than most?  Do you hit an iron off the tee on par 4's shorter than 450?  Do you just swing harder and drive the green so you don't have to hit a half wedge?

By not hitting driver of the tee.  I have good distance off the tee. I run the general rule 425 and above driver, 400-425 3 wood, 375-400 hybrid, and 375 and below long iron. The design of the hole can change my decision but those are my general rules. For wedges you can kind of throw swing speed out for distance. I can out drive someone by 30 yards consistently, but hit my lob wedge the same distance as them because I am a high ball hitter and they hit it low. Look at golf digest what's in the bag distance charts. You'll be surprised by some of the distances.

Also the best thing you can learn to do at all levels is learn to hit half and 3/4 wedges. I rarely ever hit a wedge with a full swing.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 07:37 PM

just checking pga stats. Avg #1 is DJ at 306.8 as at Aug 20'17

I hit a couple of good drives for me today, around 205.

These GPS watches can't be right. Felt like 300.

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 07:49 PM

I'm a 270ish guy. AndI can't putt. But at least my irons are mediocre.
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Posted 21 August 2017 - 04:45 AM

As a humble and passive brag Ive included my average distances in my avatar.......
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Posted 21 August 2017 - 06:56 AM

I easily hit 350, driver + 7 iron = 350. BOOM  :)

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 06:57 AM

View PostSurfDuffer, on 20 August 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

View Postlarrybud, on 16 August 2017 - 01:29 PM, said:

View Postbigjohntripod, on 16 August 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Driving it 350 is cool and all but how bout that 5 footer he misses for par?

I've seen a bunch of people pound the ball, all were terrible putters.

Guy I played with once, took him 2 shots to go 600 yards, another 4 to go 20 feet.

Short game > Long drives

I'll never understand the fascination with Driver numbers.

I'm convinced I'd easily be a +2 if I could hit the driver like a couple of my buddies.   They're almost always 40-50 ahead of me.

I'm convinced I could be a +2 if I had the short game skills of a couple of my buddies.  I'm always well past them.  :swoon:

That may be, but a short game can be learned, but max driver length is more of a product of genetics.  In other words, no matter my skill and optimization of my swing, I'll never hit it 270.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 01:40 AM

Many of the distance claims are just plain and simple BS.   Many of the distance claims are byproducts of launch monitors that are, well, "massaged" a bit by the "fitter"....    Many of the distance claims are real.    People do flat out bomb it out there, and quite a few members here absolutely kill the ball.
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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:53 AM

View Postdgarland, on 12 August 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

It's a legitimate question... I didn't realize that it had been discussed in great detail.  As you can see I don't post much in the forums.  It just seems like the average driving distance of an internet-user is far beyond what I see from day to day.  I understand there are people that can hit it that far, but they are extremely rare.  If this topic doesn't interest you then why read it and reply?  Do I just play at a course where the shortest hitters on the planet play?

You only have to look at the videos on Crossfield/Shiels pages to see how many people think they could straight up beat them, hit it longer etc.

It's laughable but I would say most don't know what 250 yards looks like let alone 300.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:37 PM

View PostJonnyKrasnodar, on 27 August 2017 - 09:53 AM, said:

View Postdgarland, on 12 August 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

It's a legitimate question... I didn't realize that it had been discussed in great detail.  As you can see I don't post much in the forums.  It just seems like the average driving distance of an internet-user is far beyond what I see from day to day.  I understand there are people that can hit it that far, but they are extremely rare.  If this topic doesn't interest you then why read it and reply?  Do I just play at a course where the shortest hitters on the planet play?

You only have to look at the videos on Crossfield/Shiels pages to see how many people think they could straight up beat them, hit it longer etc.

It's laughable but I would say most don't know what 250 yards looks like let alone 300.

I couldn't agree more. From what I have observed I think the avg drive among the recreational golfers that play once a week (like me) is still only 200 yards max.

I hit my drives 220-230 in normal conditions and I max out at 6600 yards providing not all the length is in the par 4's. I could care less what anyone thinks. Unfortunately my putting is what holds me back from lowering my handicap a little bit more. We are increasingly living in a golf world where if you do not hit your drives 270+ you cannot possibly be a good player. I would rather watch an older gentlemen systemically dissect a course from 5800 yards then watch some loose cannon spray the ball all over the zip code from the back tee and think he is some fine tuning away from the web.com tour.

I couldn't tell you how many people I have played with that lie about how far they hit with you standing right there watching. If it is a 380 yard par 4 and you are in the middle of the fairway with 160 yards to go you did not hit your drive 250!!! Simple math dude lol. I had a kid at work tell me once that he has never played golf, but occasionally goes to the driving range with his buddies and he hits the driver 270. Ah....um....I do not think so lol.

I have always been fascinated how golf brings out the delusional jack a** in certain people like no other sport. So many golfers would enjoy the game more if they took some lessons and played one tee forward.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 04:07 PM

View PostFerguson, on 16 August 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

Back in the 70's and 80's a good number of men with mustaches wearing Jovan Musk said they could bench press 350.  

Same idea, basically.


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