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#31 ian-500

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 02:36 AM

View PostMadGolfer76, on 12 August 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

I would look at a driving iron or something. But, if you want just a stupidly anit-hook hybrid, an older option is the Mp-650. I couldn't hook it if I tried.

I was similar to the OP until I found these. Great hybrid option.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:46 AM

Ping I25.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:35 AM

My Fly z hooked pretty bad on me until I swapped the shaft. Went slightly shorter also, but biggest difference I think came with a heavier shaft. Went from stock Matrix 75g to an Aldila Rogue 85h shaft at 3/4" short. Straight as an arrow now, and a nice lower flight also.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:44 AM

Check your lie angles.  Many if not most OEMs build hybrids to suit the masses, most of whom slice.  One of the ways to combat the slice is with more upright lie angles. Some are ridiculously upright.

Ping and Wishon hybrids are adjustable for lie.  I play my Ping 4 hybrid at 2 degrees flat and it makes a huge difference.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:51 AM

How is the Bertha OS hybrid with regards to going left?

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:06 AM

View Postelwhippy, on 13 August 2017 - 03:46 AM, said:

Ping I25.

Agree, bought the i20 when it's released since it's more anit left than other brands offerings, still in the bag. The i25 has,more or less, the same head/hosel shape.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:20 AM

If we're talking old school, my Nickent 3DX sits open and is plenty long. They used to be pretty commonplace on tour. Still love mine after 10+ years.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:26 AM

Like many have already suggested,  heavier shaft played at a little
shorter length (flattens effective lie angle) will help with any
hybrid head.

A good hybrid that is more fade biased than most. Tour Edge Exotics
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:53 AM

View PostLeoLeo99, on 12 August 2017 - 10:03 PM, said:

My hybrids are in the closet.  Loving the 5-wood.

For real! Every hybrid I've hit was left prone but this season I got an TM AB tour issue small head 5 and it's my fav club in the bag.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:01 AM

View Postgbartko, on 12 August 2017 - 10:30 PM, said:

Callaway x2hot pro but with a KBS hybrid steel shaft. The shaft is ~ 105 g and really takes away the big hook and goes dead straight for the most part.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:19 AM

View PostNessism, on 12 August 2017 - 11:59 PM, said:

Anti hooking hybrid is an oxymoron
Lol.  Was going to say something similar.  Hybrids might be the most personal choice in a bag, alongside 3W.  The previously mentioned Maltby KE-4 Tour is a good choice (I have some of those as well) and a sleeper pick is the Wilson Staff D100.  Easy to hit, not a left machine for me and they come with the Matrix Ozik Altus shaft which is terrific.  Getting harder to find but affordable and worth the look.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:12 PM

I would say Taylormade M1 is on that short list of hybrids that don't automatically sling hook. Start there.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:06 PM

Apex hybrid for me.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:56 AM

I think the new 818s will be able to be set to avoid the left side?! Fwys are a great alternative. More forgiving, higher and longer vs. hybrids.
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 07:28 AM

as couple mentioned here, you can certainly start with Mizuno JPX 900. you might just end with it too.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:28 AM

I was having similar issues until I went to a steel shaft. Currently have a KBS C-taper 130 X in a SLDR hybrid and it goes dead straight. I also have experimented with a PX 7.0 steel shaft in a Titleist Hybrid that I wish I would have never sold. Those are harder to find though.
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:37 AM

I had the same issue until I went to the Ping Crossovers. The 3 crossover is a little iffy to hit off the fairway (but still very possible), but from the tee it can't be beat in terms of going straight and not going left. The 4 and 5 crossovers are much easier for me to hit from the fairway and even the rough. I routinely can 99% count on my 3 crossover going about 230 down the middle of the fairway off the tee, and sometimes up to 260 if it's firm and/or downwind. It's a great club to have in bag, especially in tournaments and/or if your Driver or 3W are not cooperating that day.

Note: I am speaking of the older (all black) crossover version, not the newest one Ping has come out with. The new 3 crossover may be more playable from the fairway/rough since they are supposed to be a little easier to get up in the air versus the older version.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:16 AM

Let me suggest one that doesn't look like it should work. Old Ping G20. I have 3 in my bag, and like you, I hook every other hybrid. These have a HUGE amount of offset, which should make the problem worse, but they are straight as an arrow.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:19 AM

View PostMadGolfer76, on 12 August 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

I would look at a driving iron or something. But, if you want just a stupidly anit-hook hybrid, an older option is the Mp-650. I couldn't hook it if I tried.

Agreed.  I have always hooked a traditional hybrid, however I have owned two different driving irons now and hit both straight (MP FLI-HI & now Srixon U65).
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:30 AM

View PostVNutz, on 12 August 2017 - 09:45 PM, said:

Adams dhy

Great suggestion. If I played one it would be them. I played a set of 21-24-27 Dhys for years. Great clubs and cheap.

Is your hybrid shaft significantly lighter than your iron shafts? If so, you could be taking the club back too fast due to the decrease in weight and yanking it inside.  This is the main reason people can rip 125 gram steel shafts straight and then wonder why the same hard body motion causes a 75g graphite shaft to turn over.

Setting up slightly open and taking the club what feels like straight back (not inside) until the shaft is horizontal is a good way to stop hooking. Unfortunately it's also a good way to start blocking.

If all else fails you can always consult "how not to hit a hook" by Ben hogan which people call "five lessons" for some reason. Setting up with a flared left foot (as hogan suggests) really helps.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:37 AM

I know we love our newer equipment around here but a few years ago I had the exact same issue and, with the help of this forum, discovered the Mizuno MP650 line of hybrids.

Hooks are now a thing of the past and I can use my 19* with confidence off the tee on short, tight par 4s and 5s.
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:55 AM

View Postritz0019, on 14 August 2017 - 09:19 AM, said:

View PostMadGolfer76, on 12 August 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

I would look at a driving iron or something. But, if you want just a stupidly anit-hook hybrid, an older option is the Mp-650. I couldn't hook it if I tried.

Agreed.  I have always hooked a traditional hybrid, however I have owned two different driving irons now and hit both straight (MP FLI-HI & now Srixon U65).

MP 650 is a traditional hybrid, not a FliHi type. They're hard to come by now, but you put an 85g or heavier shaft in them they won't hook.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:12 AM

Adams Red with the weight in the toe is as anti-left as a hybrid can get. And they are stupid cheap these days. Worth the experiment and you may be VERY surprised by this hybrid.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:52 AM

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:33 PM

I'm having trouble hooking Fairway and Hybrid but hitting irons straight... any thoughts on a XTD DHy with a ~90g (Dynalite 100) or ~100g (Dynalite 109) steel shaft?

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 01:00 PM

PING Anser. I would hook the $&#! out of hybrids until I got these.
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 01:32 PM

View PostIsleOfMan, on 14 August 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

I'm having trouble hooking Fairway and Hybrid but hitting irons straight... any thoughts on a XTD DHy with a ~90g (Dynalite 100) or ~100g (Dynalite 109) steel shaft?

Well, I ordered a 24* DHy head along with both a Dynalite 109 shaft and HX3 White Tie shaft to try... I'll try the Dynalite 109 first and if it doesn't work, I can stick it in the Adams CB3 Gw I don't currently have a shaft for (the rest of the set already has Dynalite 109).
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 01:51 PM

Had the same issue till I took it through a proper fitting, new shaft and the hook is no longer an issue.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:14 PM

I have found both the DHY and Apex to be anti-hook.   My tendency is to rip at the ball with a hybrid which turns into an "armsy" swing and generates the outside path closed face pull hook of death.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:54 PM

View Posteebomb, on 12 August 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

Ping i25 is pretty neutral

That may be true, but I used to play i15s and still hit i20s, and I found them both to be overly draw-biased.


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