So I just finished a practice round and 2 tourney rounds at Cascata and unfortunately I honestly cannot recommend it. Straight away I'll admit that it was very inexpensive for me/us to play at just over 100 a round plus the caddie for the practice round and they are getting ready to do course maintenence so for that price I have few complaints, but as far as a high end competitor to Shadow Creek it is not.
The range and practice facilities are top notch. The service, outside of a few guys who seemed to be annoyed by our presence was exceptional, though after the interaction I had during the practice round I used as little of their staff for any kind of service as possible.
The Caddie we had for our PR was excellent. The clubhouse and locker room is outstanding.
The course was in very good shape for the most part considering summer in Las Vegas. Few brown spots, outstanding fairways for the most part. The greens were slow for tourney conditions at about 10 but they were smooth and rolled well, though difficult to read.
My criticisms are few but I think warrant considering other options...
1st. The most special thing about this course was the clubhouse, practice facility, and the sheer absurdity of a golf course being carved into a mountain in the middle of a desert. It is an impressive engineering feat but the layout is nothing special and almost every hole either climbs or descends the mountain with drastic elevation changes.
2nd. The bunkers were embarrassing. the 1st 2 rounds I didn't find many bunkers but I heard fellow competitors complaining.. Day 2 of tourney the wind was blowing 20-30 and now bunkers represented safer bail out options and targets. Many of the bunkers had so little sand that the carpet was visible and it was very uneven meaning sometimes I had plenty of sand at my feet then none under the ball. I had several shots snag the non visible carpet one of which hurt my wrist. I consider myself to be a very very good bunker player, as well as a wedge/trouble shot player and no amount of skill could make up for how poor the bunkers were. Solid concrete would have at least have been predictable.
The cost for a visitor playing the Cascata is 300+ (I was told by our caddie it was recently sold and the price will be going up), then caddie fee, then tipping for staff.. this quickly gets in the 500 range and for that I would say do Shadow which all is included, guys I know who have played there (I have not) have told me drinks and some food were included and that the were able to play more than 18, but I cannot confirm this.
Paiute is by far the best bang for the buck. Conditions are always outstanding as they have no water usage restrictions. 54 holes, excellent example of desert golf with plenty of room however very nasty desert brush should you stray off grass. Big well maintained practice facilities.
Coyote Springs is another great option, but it's about an hour from vegas in the middle of nowhere. It ets less play, is immaculate condition wise, but lacks the service polish as the area is still an active build zone with more courses coming as well.
Wolf Creek is a freak show. If Paiute and Wolf creek had a child it would probably look like Cascata. Compared to Wolf Creek, Cascata is mild, almost tame in it's layout. Extreme elevation changes, some extreme tee boxes in some cases hanging off cliff/ridges... Not always fair, poor practice facilities are the downsides but it is certainly something to see, though once is probably be enough.
TPC Vegas is solid and should be in good shape, it was slow to come back from maintenance a month or so ago but should be solid now.
I really like Royal links, it's not exactly a pure links course but the layout is unique for the area and presents you with situations you really don't find anywhere else and is a great skill builder.
So my suggestion would be to play some combo of Paiute, TPC Vegas, and Coyote. And if you should fare well enough at the tables to cover or subsidize a round at Shadow go for it. Usually good golf now prices for Paiute and TPC, and Coyote usually has replay deals etc. You can play a lot of great golf at those courses I mentioned and still spend less than 1 round at Cascata, which... from a purely golf and golf course perspective, I'd say is the worst of all the courses I listed.
Also bear in mind that many courses punch, overseed, and do seasonal maintenance starting now through early Sept. make sure you call and ask about their maintenance schedule.
Any questions feel free to PM me.
Edited by Hubijerk, 13 August 2017 - 11:04 PM.