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#1 leejohnkieh

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:31 PM

Hey guys,

Taking a golf trip with 3 other guys to Vegas the weekend after Labor Day.  Me and another friend are 2 H.I. and the other 2 are about a 15-18.

I've done a fair bit of research and looked at a bunch of reviews on which courses to play but I'm torn on what tracks to play.

We've decided on Shadow Creek so we have a tee time on Saturday morning but we can't decide if we want to play 1 round at a better course like Cascata or Wolf Creek or play 2 rounds at say Reflection Bay/TPC Las Vegas on Sunday and Monday.  Paiute's greens are being punched the day we get there.  I also have a friend that works at Summerlin so I'll see what she can do for us as well.

Any suggestions?  It's either 2 budget friendly courses or 1 nice course for our second and possibly third round.

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 07:52 PM

Reflection Bay was in terrible shape this last weekend. TPC Vegas was much nicer.

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:38 PM

Wolf Creek will be closed the week you are there. If you are willing to drive as far as Wolf Creek go the extra mile and play Sand Hollow. It's a fantastic layout and quite pretty as well.  It will be a challenge for the two low handicaps and is forgiving for the other two. After 1 pm green fees are very low. If you are looking to play 36, since Wolf Creek won't be an option, you could play Conestoga or Coral Canyon in the morning and finish on Sand Hollow. That will be a great day of golf. IMO these are better options than Cascata or TPC.

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 11:25 PM

Was just in this area about 2 weeks ago, so much good golf to choose from. Sand Hollow is one of my favorite courses in the area, but a bit of a drive from Las Vegas at over 2 hours (plus an hour time change). Cascata would be the easiest being just outside Vegas, and since you're playing Shadow Creek, I am guessing you guys are not too concerned with price. The whole experience of Cascata is world class in my book.

All this being said, I would take a serious look at Coyote Springs about an hour north of Vegas. It was in immaculate shape when I played it, and proved to be one of the most challenging courses from the tips I have ever played. Hardly saw anyone else on the course, and really had a sense that it was just us and the golf course.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:12 AM

I really like Cascata. It is just a fantastic overall experience.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:05 AM

View Postleejohnkieh, on 10 August 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

Hey guys,

Taking a golf trip with 3 other guys to Vegas the weekend after Labor Day.  Me and another friend are 2 H.I. and the other 2 are about a 15-18.

I've done a fair bit of research and looked at a bunch of reviews on which courses to play but I'm torn on what tracks to play.

We've decided on Shadow Creek so we have a tee time on Saturday morning but we can't decide if we want to play 1 round at a better course like Cascata or Wolf Creek or play 2 rounds at say Reflection Bay/TPC Las Vegas on Sunday and Monday.  Paiute's greens are being punched the day we get there.  I also have a friend that works at Summerlin so I'll see what she can do for us as well.


Any suggestions?  It's either 2 budget friendly courses or 1 nice course for our second and possibly third round.

Shadow Creek is a fantastic first class experience!!

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:27 AM

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Wolf Creek will be closed the week you are there. If you are willing to drive as far as Wolf Creek go the extra mile and play Sand Hollow. It's a fantastic layout and quite pretty as well.  It will be a challenge for the two low handicaps and is forgiving for the other two. After 1 pm green fees are very low. If you are looking to play 36, since Wolf Creek won't be an option, you could play Conestoga or Coral Canyon in the morning and finish on Sand Hollow. That will be a great day of golf. IMO these are better options than Cascata or TPC.

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Awesome pictures.  I think 2 hours is a bit too far for us since we have set aside 6 hours max for travel time/golf.

I'll def keep Sand Hollow in mind since others have also suggested it.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:29 AM

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Was just in this area about 2 weeks ago, so much good golf to choose from. Sand Hollow is one of my favorite courses in the area, but a bit of a drive from Las Vegas at over 2 hours (plus an hour time change). Cascata would be the easiest being just outside Vegas, and since you're playing Shadow Creek, I am guessing you guys are not too concerned with price. The whole experience of Cascata is world class in my book.

All this being said, I would take a serious look at Coyote Springs about an hour north of Vegas. It was in immaculate shape when I played it, and proved to be one of the most challenging courses from the tips I have ever played. Hardly saw anyone else on the course, and really had a sense that it was just us and the golf course.

I mean we did budget so figured SC + 2 budget courses or SC + 1 nicer course.  None of the guys have played TPC or RB before so we wouldn't mind playing there as well.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:31 AM

View Postaloha b., on 11 August 2017 - 01:05 AM, said:

View Postleejohnkieh, on 10 August 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

Hey guys,

Taking a golf trip with 3 other guys to Vegas the weekend after Labor Day.  Me and another friend are 2 H.I. and the other 2 are about a 15-18.

I've done a fair bit of research and looked at a bunch of reviews on which courses to play but I'm torn on what tracks to play.

We've decided on Shadow Creek so we have a tee time on Saturday morning but we can't decide if we want to play 1 round at a better course like Cascata or Wolf Creek or play 2 rounds at say Reflection Bay/TPC Las Vegas on Sunday and Monday.  Paiute's greens are being punched the day we get there.  I also have a friend that works at Summerlin so I'll see what she can do for us as well.


Any suggestions?  It's either 2 budget friendly courses or 1 nice course for our second and possibly third round.

Shadow Creek is a fantastic first class experience!!

Yea I'm super excited to play hearing first hand from some friends of mine who have played there.  Apparently they ran into some celebs and were very chill and laid back.  Took pictures and what not so that would be awesome if we lucked out and ran into MJ or something.

One can dream.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:41 PM

View Postleejohnkieh, on 11 August 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

View Postaloha b., on 11 August 2017 - 01:05 AM, said:

View Postleejohnkieh, on 10 August 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

Hey guys,

Taking a golf trip with 3 other guys to Vegas the weekend after Labor Day.  Me and another friend are 2 H.I. and the other 2 are about a 15-18.

I've done a fair bit of research and looked at a bunch of reviews on which courses to play but I'm torn on what tracks to play.

We've decided on Shadow Creek so we have a tee time on Saturday morning but we can't decide if we want to play 1 round at a better course like Cascata or Wolf Creek or play 2 rounds at say
Reflection Bay/TPC Las Vegas on Sunday and Monday.  Paiute's greens are being punched the day we get there.  I also have a friend that works at Summerlin so I'll see what she can do for us as well.


Any suggestions?  It's either 2 budget friendly courses or 1 nice course for our second and possibly third round.

Shadow Creek is a fantastic first class experience!!

Yea I'm super excited to play hearing first hand from some friends of mine who have played there.  Apparently they ran into some celebs and were very chill and laid back.  Took pictures and what not so that would be awesome if we lucked out and ran into MJ or something.

One can dream.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:49 AM

I'm gonna go ahead and second Coyote Springs.  It's a nice course for a low price.  It's roughly 45mins out of Vegas, in the middle of absolutely nothing.  It might be a little rough on the high handicappers like myself, but it's definitely worth the experience.  Sand Hollow is awesome as well, especially the back 9.  It's a bit farther out in Hurricane, UT, but it provides a good challenge and great course.  I've not played SC or Cascatta, but I've heard nothing but good from the two.  Chimera should hopefully be back in shape by the time you get here.  TPC Las Vegas was in pretty good shape last weekend, haven't played TPC Summerlin yet.  Haven't played Reflection Bay, but that's #1 on my list.  Royal Links is good, but I think they're a little overpriced.  I've played a majority of public courses, so I'm happy to help any way I can!

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:03 PM

So I just finished a practice round and 2 tourney rounds at Cascata and unfortunately I honestly cannot recommend it.  Straight away I'll admit that it was very inexpensive for me/us to play at just over 100 a round plus the caddie for the practice round and they are getting ready to do course maintenence so for that price I have few complaints, but as far as a high end competitor to Shadow Creek it is not.

The range and practice facilities are top notch.  The service, outside of a few guys who seemed to be annoyed by our presence was exceptional, though after the interaction I had during the practice round I used as little of their staff for any kind of service as possible.

The Caddie we had for our PR was excellent.  The clubhouse and locker room is outstanding.

The course was in very good shape for the most part considering summer in Las Vegas. Few brown spots, outstanding fairways for the most part.  The greens were slow for tourney conditions at about 10 but they were smooth and rolled well, though difficult to read.

My criticisms are few but I think warrant considering other options...

1st. The most special thing about this course was the clubhouse, practice facility, and the sheer absurdity of a golf course being carved into a mountain in the middle of a desert.  It is an impressive engineering feat but the layout is nothing special and almost every hole either climbs or descends the mountain with drastic elevation changes.

2nd.  The bunkers were embarrassing.  the 1st 2 rounds I didn't find many bunkers but I heard fellow competitors complaining.. Day 2 of tourney the wind was blowing 20-30 and now bunkers represented safer bail out options and targets.  Many of the bunkers had so little sand that the carpet was visible and it was very uneven meaning sometimes I had plenty of sand at my feet then none under the ball.  I had several shots snag the non visible carpet one of which hurt my wrist.  I consider myself to be a very very good bunker player, as well as a wedge/trouble shot player and no amount of skill could make up for how poor the bunkers were.  Solid concrete would have at least have been predictable.

The cost for a visitor playing the Cascata is 300+ (I was told by our caddie it was recently sold and the price will be going up), then caddie fee, then tipping for staff.. this quickly gets in the 500 range and for that I would say do Shadow which all is included, guys I know who have played there (I have not) have told me drinks and some food were included and that the were able to play more than 18, but I cannot confirm this.

Paiute is by far the best bang for the buck.  Conditions are always outstanding as they have no water usage restrictions.  54 holes, excellent example of desert golf with plenty of room however very nasty desert brush should you stray off grass.  Big well maintained practice facilities.

Coyote Springs is another great option, but it's about an hour from vegas in the middle of nowhere.  It ets less play, is immaculate condition wise, but lacks the service polish as the area is still an active build zone with more courses coming as well.

Wolf Creek is a freak show.  If Paiute and Wolf creek had a child it would probably look like Cascata.  Compared to Wolf Creek, Cascata is mild, almost tame in it's layout.  Extreme elevation changes, some extreme tee boxes in some cases hanging off cliff/ridges... Not always fair, poor practice facilities are the downsides but it is certainly something to see, though once is probably be enough.

TPC Vegas is solid and should be in good shape, it was slow to come back from maintenance a month or so ago but should be solid now.

I really like Royal links, it's not exactly a pure links course but the layout is unique for the area and presents you with situations you really don't find anywhere else and is a great skill builder.

So my suggestion would be to play some combo of Paiute, TPC Vegas, and Coyote.  And if you should fare well enough at the tables to cover or subsidize a round at Shadow go for it.  Usually good golf now prices for Paiute and TPC, and Coyote usually has replay deals etc.  You can play a lot of great golf at those courses I mentioned and still spend less than 1 round at Cascata, which... from a purely golf and golf course perspective, I'd say is the worst of all the courses I listed.

Also bear in mind that many courses punch, overseed, and do seasonal maintenance starting now through early Sept.  make sure you call and ask about their maintenance schedule.

Any questions feel free to PM me.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:42 PM

View PostHubijerk, on 13 August 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

So I just finished a practice round and 2 tourney rounds at Cascata and unfortunately I honestly cannot recommend it.  Straight away I'll admit that it was very inexpensive for me/us to play at just over 100 a round plus the caddie for the practice round and they are getting ready to do course maintenence so for that price I have few complaints, but as far as a high end competitor to Shadow Creek it is not.

The range and practice facilities are top notch.  The service, outside of a few guys who seemed to be annoyed by our presence was exceptional, though after the interaction I had during the practice round I used as little of their staff for any kind of service as possible.

The Caddie we had for our PR was excellent.  The clubhouse and locker room is outstanding.

The course was in very good shape for the most part considering summer in Las Vegas. Few brown spots, outstanding fairways for the most part.  The greens were slow for tourney conditions at about 10 but they were smooth and rolled well, though difficult to read.

My criticisms are few but I think warrant considering other options...

1st. The most special thing about this course was the clubhouse, practice facility, and the sheer absurdity of a golf course being carved into a mountain in the middle of a desert.  It is an impressive engineering feat but the layout is nothing special and almost every hole either climbs or descends the mountain with drastic elevation changes.

2nd.  The bunkers were embarrassing.  the 1st 2 rounds I didn't find many bunkers but I heard fellow competitors complaining.. Day 2 of tourney the wind was blowing 20-30 and now bunkers represented safer bail out options and targets.  Many of the bunkers had so little sand that the carpet was visible and it was very uneven meaning sometimes I had plenty of sand at my feet then none under the ball.  I had several shots snag the non visible carpet one of which hurt my wrist.  I consider myself to be a very very good bunker player, as well as a wedge/trouble shot player and no amount of skill could make up for how poor the bunkers were.  Solid concrete would have at least have been predictable.

The cost for a visitor playing the Cascata is 300+ (I was told by our caddie it was recently sold and the price will be going up), then caddie fee, then tipping for staff.. this quickly gets in the 500 range and for that I would say do Shadow which all is included, guys I know who have played there (I have not) have told me drinks and some food were included and that the were able to play more than 18, but I cannot confirm this.

Paiute is by far the best bang for the buck.  Conditions are always outstanding as they have no water usage restrictions.  54 holes, excellent example of desert golf with plenty of room however very nasty desert brush should you stray off grass.  Big well maintained practice facilities.

Coyote Springs is another great option, but it's about an hour from vegas in the middle of nowhere.  It ets less play, is immaculate condition wise, but lacks the service polish as the area is still an active build zone with more courses coming as well.

Wolf Creek is a freak show.  If Paiute and Wolf creek had a child it would probably look like Cascata.  Compared to Wolf Creek, Cascata is mild, almost tame in it's layout.  Extreme elevation changes, some extreme tee boxes in some cases hanging off cliff/ridges... Not always fair, poor practice facilities are the downsides but it is certainly something to see, though once is probably be enough.

TPC Vegas is solid and should be in good shape, it was slow to come back from maintenance a month or so ago but should be solid now.

I really like Royal links, it's not exactly a pure links course but the layout is unique for the area and presents you with situations you really don't find anywhere else and is a great skill builder.

So my suggestion would be to play some combo of Paiute, TPC Vegas, and Coyote.  And if you should fare well enough at the tables to cover or subsidize a round at Shadow go for it.  Usually good golf now prices for Paiute and TPC, and Coyote usually has replay deals etc.  You can play a lot of great golf at those courses I mentioned and still spend less than 1 round at Cascata, which... from a purely golf and golf course perspective, I'd say is the worst of all the courses I listed.

Also bear in mind that many courses punch, overseed, and do seasonal maintenance starting now through early Sept.  make sure you call and ask about their maintenance schedule.

Any questions feel free to PM me.

-J
Really appreciate the thorough review. We definitely are gonna play shadow creek since it's sort of a bucket list course.  I was sad to see that paiute was gonna be punching the weekend we get in.

I think we're gonna do SC, TPC LV/Summerlin (dependant on a friend who works there) and reflection bay as they are pretty close to the strip.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:28 PM

View Postleejohnkieh, on 14 August 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

View PostHubijerk, on 13 August 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

So I just finished a practice round and 2 tourney rounds at Cascata and unfortunately I honestly cannot recommend it.  Straight away I'll admit that it was very inexpensive for me/us to play at just over 100 a round plus the caddie for the practice round and they are getting ready to do course maintenence so for that price I have few complaints, but as far as a high end competitor to Shadow Creek it is not.

The range and practice facilities are top notch.  The service, outside of a few guys who seemed to be annoyed by our presence was exceptional, though after the interaction I had during the practice round I used as little of their staff for any kind of service as possible.

The Caddie we had for our PR was excellent.  The clubhouse and locker room is outstanding.

The course was in very good shape for the most part considering summer in Las Vegas. Few brown spots, outstanding fairways for the most part.  The greens were slow for tourney conditions at about 10 but they were smooth and rolled well, though difficult to read.

My criticisms are few but I think warrant considering other options...

1st. The most special thing about this course was the clubhouse, practice facility, and the sheer absurdity of a golf course being carved into a mountain in the middle of a desert.  It is an impressive engineering feat but the layout is nothing special and almost every hole either climbs or descends the mountain with drastic elevation changes.

2nd.  The bunkers were embarrassing.  the 1st 2 rounds I didn't find many bunkers but I heard fellow competitors complaining.. Day 2 of tourney the wind was blowing 20-30 and now bunkers represented safer bail out options and targets.  Many of the bunkers had so little sand that the carpet was visible and it was very uneven meaning sometimes I had plenty of sand at my feet then none under the ball.  I had several shots snag the non visible carpet one of which hurt my wrist.  I consider myself to be a very very good bunker player, as well as a wedge/trouble shot player and no amount of skill could make up for how poor the bunkers were.  Solid concrete would have at least have been predictable.

The cost for a visitor playing the Cascata is 300+ (I was told by our caddie it was recently sold and the price will be going up), then caddie fee, then tipping for staff.. this quickly gets in the 500 range and for that I would say do Shadow which all is included, guys I know who have played there (I have not) have told me drinks and some food were included and that the were able to play more than 18, but I cannot confirm this.

Paiute is by far the best bang for the buck.  Conditions are always outstanding as they have no water usage restrictions.  54 holes, excellent example of desert golf with plenty of room however very nasty desert brush should you stray off grass.  Big well maintained practice facilities.

Coyote Springs is another great option, but it's about an hour from vegas in the middle of nowhere.  It ets less play, is immaculate condition wise, but lacks the service polish as the area is still an active build zone with more courses coming as well.

Wolf Creek is a freak show.  If Paiute and Wolf creek had a child it would probably look like Cascata.  Compared to Wolf Creek, Cascata is mild, almost tame in it's layout.  Extreme elevation changes, some extreme tee boxes in some cases hanging off cliff/ridges... Not always fair, poor practice facilities are the downsides but it is certainly something to see, though once is probably be enough.

TPC Vegas is solid and should be in good shape, it was slow to come back from maintenance a month or so ago but should be solid now.

I really like Royal links, it's not exactly a pure links course but the layout is unique for the area and presents you with situations you really don't find anywhere else and is a great skill builder.

So my suggestion would be to play some combo of Paiute, TPC Vegas, and Coyote.  And if you should fare well enough at the tables to cover or subsidize a round at Shadow go for it.  Usually good golf now prices for Paiute and TPC, and Coyote usually has replay deals etc.  You can play a lot of great golf at those courses I mentioned and still spend less than 1 round at Cascata, which... from a purely golf and golf course perspective, I'd say is the worst of all the courses I listed.

Also bear in mind that many courses punch, overseed, and do seasonal maintenance starting now through early Sept.  make sure you call and ask about their maintenance schedule.

Any questions feel free to PM me.

-J
Really appreciate the thorough review. We definitely are gonna play shadow creek since it's sort of a bucket list course.  I was sad to see that paiute was gonna be punching the weekend we get in.

I think we're gonna do SC, TPC LV/Summerlin (dependant on a friend who works there) and reflection bay as they are pretty close to the strip.

I might be misreading this but Reflection Bay is one of the furthest courses from The Strip. However, the course selection is excellent.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 07:38 PM

View PostHubijerk, on 13 August 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:


The range and practice facilities are top notch.  The service... was exceptional... The clubhouse and locker room is outstanding.

1st. The most special thing about this course was the clubhouse, practice facility, and the sheer absurdity of a golf course being carved into a mountain in the middle of a desert.  It is an impressive engineering feat but the layout is nothing special and almost every hole either climbs or descends the mountain with drastic elevation changes.

The cost for a visitor playing the Cascata is 300+ , then caddie fee, then tipping for staff.. this quickly gets in the 500 range

Paiute is by far the best bang for the buck.  Conditions are always outstanding as they have no water usage restrictions.  54 holes, excellent example of desert golf with plenty of room however very nasty desert brush should you stray off grass.  Big well maintained practice facilities.


+1 - Hope you don't mind my excerpting your post, but the parts quoted above are all anyone needs to know about Cascata and worth repeating. It's not a course that's worth what they charge or  even at half that price.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 06:17 PM

View PostGolfinnova, on 14 August 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

View Postleejohnkieh, on 14 August 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

View PostHubijerk, on 13 August 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

So I just finished a practice round and 2 tourney rounds at Cascata and unfortunately I honestly cannot recommend it.  Straight away I'll admit that it was very inexpensive for me/us to play at just over 100 a round plus the caddie for the practice round and they are getting ready to do course maintenence so for that price I have few complaints, but as far as a high end competitor to Shadow Creek it is not.

The range and practice facilities are top notch.  The service, outside of a few guys who seemed to be annoyed by our presence was exceptional, though after the interaction I had during the practice round I used as little of their staff for any kind of service as possible.

The Caddie we had for our PR was excellent.  The clubhouse and locker room is outstanding.

The course was in very good shape for the most part considering summer in Las Vegas. Few brown spots, outstanding fairways for the most part.  The greens were slow for tourney conditions at about 10 but they were smooth and rolled well, though difficult to read.

My criticisms are few but I think warrant considering other options...

1st. The most special thing about this course was the clubhouse, practice facility, and the sheer absurdity of a golf course being carved into a mountain in the middle of a desert.  It is an impressive engineering feat but the layout is nothing special and almost every hole either climbs or descends the mountain with drastic elevation changes.

2nd.  The bunkers were embarrassing.  the 1st 2 rounds I didn't find many bunkers but I heard fellow competitors complaining.. Day 2 of tourney the wind was blowing 20-30 and now bunkers represented safer bail out options and targets.  Many of the bunkers had so little sand that the carpet was visible and it was very uneven meaning sometimes I had plenty of sand at my feet then none under the ball.  I had several shots snag the non visible carpet one of which hurt my wrist.  I consider myself to be a very very good bunker player, as well as a wedge/trouble shot player and no amount of skill could make up for how poor the bunkers were.  Solid concrete would have at least have been predictable.

The cost for a visitor playing the Cascata is 300+ (I was told by our caddie it was recently sold and the price will be going up), then caddie fee, then tipping for staff.. this quickly gets in the 500 range and for that I would say do Shadow which all is included, guys I know who have played there (I have not) have told me drinks and some food were included and that the were able to play more than 18, but I cannot confirm this.

Paiute is by far the best bang for the buck.  Conditions are always outstanding as they have no water usage restrictions.  54 holes, excellent example of desert golf with plenty of room however very nasty desert brush should you stray off grass.  Big well maintained practice facilities.

Coyote Springs is another great option, but it's about an hour from vegas in the middle of nowhere.  It ets less play, is immaculate condition wise, but lacks the service polish as the area is still an active build zone with more courses coming as well.

Wolf Creek is a freak show.  If Paiute and Wolf creek had a child it would probably look like Cascata.  Compared to Wolf Creek, Cascata is mild, almost tame in it's layout.  Extreme elevation changes, some extreme tee boxes in some cases hanging off cliff/ridges... Not always fair, poor practice facilities are the downsides but it is certainly something to see, though once is probably be enough.

TPC Vegas is solid and should be in good shape, it was slow to come back from maintenance a month or so ago but should be solid now.

I really like Royal links, it's not exactly a pure links course but the layout is unique for the area and presents you with situations you really don't find anywhere else and is a great skill builder.

So my suggestion would be to play some combo of Paiute, TPC Vegas, and Coyote.  And if you should fare well enough at the tables to cover or subsidize a round at Shadow go for it.  Usually good golf now prices for Paiute and TPC, and Coyote usually has replay deals etc.  You can play a lot of great golf at those courses I mentioned and still spend less than 1 round at Cascata, which... from a purely golf and golf course perspective, I'd say is the worst of all the courses I listed.

Also bear in mind that many courses punch, overseed, and do seasonal maintenance starting now through early Sept.  make sure you call and ask about their maintenance schedule.

Any questions feel free to PM me.

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Really appreciate the thorough review. We definitely are gonna play shadow creek since it's sort of a bucket list course.  I was sad to see that paiute was gonna be punching the weekend we get in.

I think we're gonna do SC, TPC LV/Summerlin (dependant on a friend who works there) and reflection bay as they are pretty close to the strip.

I might be misreading this but Reflection Bay is one of the furthest courses from The Strip. However, the course selection is excellent.

You're right.  I forgot to state that Reflection Bay was in the price point rather than distance lol.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 10:26 AM

Bali hai is on the strip and fun. Expensive but fun.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 11:33 AM

I don't think you can go wrong with TPC Las Vegas. I played TPC and Paiute a few months ago. I actually enjoyed TPC better than the snow course at Paiute.
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Posted 17 August 2017 - 02:17 PM

View Postbauer22, on 17 August 2017 - 11:33 AM, said:

I don't think you can go wrong with TPC Las Vegas. I played TPC and Paiute a few months ago. I actually enjoyed TPC better than the snow course at Paiute.

Snow is the easiest and least special Paiute track I feel.  Sun is the most difficult, especially from the tips, and I think the back 9 is much more interesting than the front.  I'll use every club in my bag during a round on Sun, which is unusual, for me anyway.  More elevated greens, more risk/reward options etc.

Wolf is cool, but I don't think it's as difficult as Sun.  Some of the holes are long, and the looks are unique, but if you put you're tee ball in play the second shots in aren't as difficult as Sun imho.
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Posted 17 August 2017 - 04:32 PM

Not to hijack this post, but also going to LV soon and thinking of playing Wolf Creek. Is the best way to get there by renting a car? Is there any other option to get there. Having a car in vegas is not something I really want to deal with, but if it is the only way then i'll have to.


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 06:09 PM

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Not to hijack this post, but also going to LV soon and thinking of playing Wolf Creek. Is the best way to get there by renting a car? Is there any other option to get there. Having a car in vegas is not something I really want to deal with, but if it is the only way then i'll have to.

I would definitely recommend going the rent a car route.  When I made the trip out to Wolf Creek, having a rental was a real piece of mind for keeping my clubs in a safe place and being able to head back to the strip if Mesquite got boring.  Having a car in Vegas is definitely not ideal, but doing a quick 1 day rental to go back and forth from Mesquite is definitely worth it.  

Speaking to the original post, you can't go wrong with TPC Vegas.  I did a quick trip last August, and TPC is a very solid course.  Visiting in late August/early September, some of the courses tend to not be in the best condition after a few months of the 110 degree heat everyday, but this was not the case at TPC.  The course was very green and lush, and I would certainly return to play again.20150829_152403.jpg

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 12:02 PM

So I just found out that TPC LV and Reflection Bay are closed for overseeding as a bunch of other courses are closed for overseeding.........Anyone have thoughts on the Snow Mountain course at Paiute?  Looks like their schedule will be perfect in terms of aerification schedule.  Sun Mountain will have just finished aerification.

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 11:29 AM

booked the golfapalooza deal at paiute snow/ sun mountain courses. Anyone suggest taking an uber/ taxi/ rental car to get there? Which is easiest.

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 06:36 PM

I took an uber from the strip out to Aliante  golf course a few months ago.  Think out was about $25 each way. An uber to Pauite is about $35 each way.  

That's with 2 people.  You'll have to pay for the fancier uber to get a larger vehicle if it's 4 of you and clubs.

It's windy out there in the desert.

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:18 AM

View Postleejohnkieh, on 21 August 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

So I just found out that TPC LV and Reflection Bay are closed for overseeding as a bunch of other courses are closed for overseeding.........Anyone have thoughts on the Snow Mountain course at Paiute?  Looks like their schedule will be perfect in terms of aerification schedule.  Sun Mountain will have just finished aerification.

Snow is in good shape as always, you'll have a good time.


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 12:33 AM

View PostGolfinnova, on 23 August 2017 - 05:18 AM, said:

View Postleejohnkieh, on 21 August 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

So I just found out that TPC LV and Reflection Bay are closed for overseeding as a bunch of other courses are closed for overseeding.........Anyone have thoughts on the Snow Mountain course at Paiute?  Looks like their schedule will be perfect in terms of aerification schedule.  Sun Mountain will have just finished aerification.

Snow is in good shape as always, you'll have a good time.

Fairways on the back are in very rough shape. Summer has taken its toll. #17 may be the worst "fairway" in Vegas. Greens are good though, especially for summer.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 05:00 AM

View Postkg92lefty, on 25 August 2017 - 12:33 AM, said:

View PostGolfinnova, on 23 August 2017 - 05:18 AM, said:

View Postleejohnkieh, on 21 August 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

So I just found out that TPC LV and Reflection Bay are closed for overseeding as a bunch of other courses are closed for overseeding.........Anyone have thoughts on the Snow Mountain course at Paiute?  Looks like their schedule will be perfect in terms of aerification schedule.  Sun Mountain will have just finished aerification.

Snow is in good shape as always, you'll have a good time.

Fairways on the back are in very rough shape. Summer has taken its toll. #17 may be the worst "fairway" in Vegas. Greens are good though, especially for summer.

"Very rough"????? A couple of brown spots don't make it very rough. Go look at The Club at Sunrise and tell me which you think is truly "very rough". Plus they are getting ready for overseed.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 07:31 AM

I just played the Club at Sunrise last Sunday.  It was a dump when it was Desert Rose and while it's a little nicer now it's still the same boring layout.  It was brown in spots but that's to be expected in the desert in the summer.  Oddly, some of the fairways were very soggy like they had been over-watered.  The greens were shaggy and kind of slow to keep them from burning out.  Then there is the Flamingo Wash that runs through the entire course, mostly on the right side of every fairway.  

I went there because it was cheap and wanted to see what the renovations were like.  It was okay I guess, just for getting out and playing a little, but I wouldn't go back there.  It's also worth noting that it is not in the greatest part of town.
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 07:42 AM

View PostGolfinnova, on 25 August 2017 - 05:00 AM, said:

View Postkg92lefty, on 25 August 2017 - 12:33 AM, said:

View PostGolfinnova, on 23 August 2017 - 05:18 AM, said:

View Postleejohnkieh, on 21 August 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

So I just found out that TPC LV and Reflection Bay are closed for overseeding as a bunch of other courses are closed for overseeding.........Anyone have thoughts on the Snow Mountain course at Paiute?  Looks like their schedule will be perfect in terms of aerification schedule.  Sun Mountain will have just finished aerification.

Snow is in good shape as always, you'll have a good time.

Fairways on the back are in very rough shape. Summer has taken its toll. #17 may be the worst "fairway" in Vegas. Greens are good though, especially for summer.

"Very rough"????? A couple of brown spots don't make it very rough. Go look at The Club at Sunrise and tell me which you think is truly "very rough". Plus they are getting ready for overseed.

It's not a couple brown spots. I like paiute but I'm just saying it like it is. Front nine is great, back 9 has a lot of issues. 17 fairway is mostly dead.
And if sunrise is rough it's because it's not expected to be any different. And if sunrise is getting ready to over seed that would explain it.
You compare one of the worst courses to one of the best. Everyone is having issues this summer, just have to admit it and accept it. 13 on sun looks like it will go up in flames if someone drops a cigar on it last time I was there.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 07:51 AM

View Postkg92lefty, on 25 August 2017 - 07:42 AM, said:

View PostGolfinnova, on 25 August 2017 - 05:00 AM, said:

View Postkg92lefty, on 25 August 2017 - 12:33 AM, said:

View PostGolfinnova, on 23 August 2017 - 05:18 AM, said:

View Postleejohnkieh, on 21 August 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

So I just found out that TPC LV and Reflection Bay are closed for overseeding as a bunch of other courses are closed for overseeding.........Anyone have thoughts on the Snow Mountain course at Paiute?  Looks like their schedule will be perfect in terms of aerification schedule.  Sun Mountain will have just finished aerification.

Snow is in good shape as always, you'll have a good time.

Fairways on the back are in very rough shape. Summer has taken its toll. #17 may be the worst "fairway" in Vegas. Greens are good though, especially for summer.

"Very rough"????? A couple of brown spots don't make it very rough. Go look at The Club at Sunrise and tell me which you think is truly "very rough". Plus they are getting ready for overseed.

It's not a couple brown spots. I like paiute but I'm just saying it like it is. Front nine is great, back 9 has a lot of issues. 17 fairway is mostly dead.
And if sunrise is rough it's because it's not expected to be any different. And if sunrise is getting ready to over seed that would explain it.

Oh stop it, you're being beyond ridiculous. If you think Paiute is dead then you simply don't get out.

I played The Club at Sunrise over Memorial Day weekend, they had dirt for fairways which is something not found on any course at Paiute. I play Paiute all the time as a member so I know it in and out.

As I said, they are in process of overseeding. Will they be perfect? Nope, but even then they are way in better shape than all the other courses in the area.


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