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How many of you single digit caps have shot par or better?


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#181 ritz0019

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 09:44 AM

Thought this would be a good exercise for the discussion.  I played 22 times this past year on 4 different courses. Course ratings of the 4 courses:  71.8/122, 72.8/130, 71.8/131 (Par 71), 71/123

Handicap: +2

Recent to January scores:

73, 71, 73, 73, 70, 71, 71, 72, 68, 68, 66, 65, 73, 72, 70, 68, 70,70, 77, 75, 69, 73

Statistics:  73% of fairways, equal dispersion left and right almost
GIR:  74%
Scramble%:  38%
Sand Save%  59%
Putting:  1.79
To par by hole type:  Par3: 3.2  Par4: 4.1  Par5: 4.7
Scoring:  Pars: 64%  Bogey: 19%  Birdies: 17%  Other: Less than 1%

Some notes on the numbers:  I only get to play very sparingly and with no practice (compared to how much I used to do both).  The numbers probably easily show my strengths and weaknesses from not getting to play enough.  I don't get up and down a bunch so when I miss greens more often than not they're bogeys.  Still a good enough ball striker and putter to score, but my wedge play keeps me from going low enough to bring my score and handicap down that much further.

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#182 mx6262

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 10:31 AM

I've played to a 2.7 . But average around a 5. I have many front or back side under par sides. best is a 32, with a bogey. Never able to bring home the under par round. Brain game I guess. Make more birdies!!!!  Mine have fallen more than 1/2 in the last year.  To play under par, every shot counts. Best tip from a tour pro, hit the green in reg at all cost.

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 10:36 AM

View Postritz0019, on 15 January 2018 - 09:44 AM, said:

Thought this would be a good exercise for the discussion.  I played 22 times this past year on 4 different courses. Course ratings of the 4 courses:  71.8/122, 72.8/130, 71.8/131 (Par 71), 71/123

Handicap: +2

Recent to January scores:

73, 71, 73, 73, 70, 71, 71, 72, 68, 68, 66, 65, 73, 72, 70, 68, 70,70, 77, 75, 69, 73

Statistics:  73% of fairways, equal dispersion left and right almost
GIR:  74%
Scramble%:  38%
Sand Save%  59%
Putting:  1.79
To par by hole type:  Par3: 3.2  Par4: 4.1  Par5: 4.7
Scoring:  Pars: 64%  Bogey: 19%  Birdies: 17%  Other: Less than 1%

Some notes on the numbers:  I only get to play very sparingly and with no practice (compared to how much I used to do both).  The numbers probably easily show my strengths and weaknesses from not getting to play enough.  I don't get up and down a bunch so when I miss greens more often than not they're bogeys.  Still a good enough ball striker and putter to score, but my wedge play keeps me from going low enough to bring my score and handicap down that much further.

The GIR stands out to me, when I have better than 60% GIR I have a good chance. I need 4 birdies a round to have a chance at under par. GIR brings more birdies.

Good info!.


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Posted 15 January 2018 - 02:21 PM

I played to between a 7 and 8 this past year. My short game is why it is as low as it is, and keeping the ball in play. I hit most fairways but only drive the ball around 240-250 max. I've shot under par a small handful of times but only on courses that played around 6200-6300 max. If I have to play the tips or around 7000 I'm usually high 70's to low 80's. I struggle more at longer links-style courses with high amounts of wind than I do at shorter/tighter shot-maker courses.

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Posted 16 January 2018 - 09:39 AM

I am a 4. Shot 71 hitting 17 greens. Was on fringe on green I missed which I used a putter and didn't get up and down. Had 2 birdies.Have shot lower before but that was a day it seemed Iike I couldn't miss. I played the blue tees . I was 59 at that time. Shows you can have your best ball striking round ever at a older age.
I also played in a Ryder Cup format at my home course at end of year. Last day was singles my opponent was a 6 handicap playing Adams MB2. I thought I could be in some trouble. I closed him out on 17 I was 4 under,he was a good 6.
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Posted 16 January 2018 - 12:00 PM

I actually shot a 1-under 71 once as an 11 handicap (UK). Came on the back of not having broken 80 in 2 years.  I followed up the sub-par round with a 76 and 78 on a couple courses in Dallas before heading to Hawaii and shooting a few sub-80 rounds (including a 77 from the tips at Mauna Kea) and an 80 from the tips at Kiawah Island.  Then after the summer I stopped playing for a while and didn't break 80 again for another year.  I'm now a 9hc but trending lower.

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 10:47 PM

I am currently a 6 but have broken par a few times. I think that the key is birdies. That means making putts. Making putts for birdie consistently is about proximity.

In addition you can't have many explosion shots (no leaving it in the bunker, duffing a chip, OB...) If you can hit it long and controlled then you have shorted irons in and get closer to the hole.

It seems that people are confusing single a few over with shooting or breaking par. Relying on a short game or hitting 18 greens might get you there once an awhile when things go right. But if you want to be under par you need to be a great ball striker and good putter or good ball striker and great putter. For me to break par I think I need to hit 70%+ of the fairways, 60% of the greens and keep my proximity to the hole for short irons below 30'. That will give me 3-5 putts for birdie at 15' or less. I should make 1-2. Add in the par 5s and 2-3 birdies a round should give me a good s*** of par or better.

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 11:37 PM

I have a few times, but I think there should have been way more. Lol. Shooting under par isn't easy unless. You have to hit a lot of fairways, greens, and make putts.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 12:14 AM

View Postaliikane, on 17 January 2018 - 11:37 PM, said:

I have a few times, but I think there should have been way more. Lol. Shooting under par isn't easy unless. You have to hit a lot of fairways, greens, and make putts.

I think the mental block of "under par woah!" was my main problem.

I would go really low for 12 holes and then play defense coming in and screw up.

I went from 10 under par rounds in 5 years to getting 11 last season. I changed my mental approach a bit to shoot for some semi-unrealistic goal like a 63 instead of par haha.

But you are right. My lowest rounds seemed really boring looking back. Didnt hit it into trouble, hit a ton of greens and made a few clutch putts.

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 10:04 PM

Does age count? I'm a 4 now at age 42 but in my late teens, early 20's I was much better. I've had 2 rounds of 64 in my 20's. I now break par maybe once every year or so. My last was a 69 in April of 2017. That 69 does come with an asterisk though. It was on a par 72 that only played 5,900 yards. I was playing with a couple of guys who played the white tees and I hit 3 irons off tees, and wedges into greens all day.


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Posted 27 January 2018 - 10:09 PM

I'm a 3.7 and I shot even par once, and under par once for 18 holes in 2017. Had a ton of rounds in the 70's this year. I think more in the 70's than 80's to be honest. Lowest was a 70, highest was an 86(rough day)

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 07:46 PM

View PostN8dogg2669, on 27 January 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

I'm a 3.7 and I shot even par once, and under par once for 18 holes in 2017. Had a ton of rounds in the 70's this year. I think more in the 70's than 80's to be honest. Lowest was a 70, highest was an 86(rough day)

Thats right on the door dude, you are about ready to kick it in and go low.

I'm a slight outlier as I posted earlier that I had double digit rounds under par, but also had a high of 85. My variance/anti-cap would be insane LOL. How does a 2 handicap have a 64 and 88 in the same year !?!

Thats something I definitely need to work on.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:36 PM

I've been as low as 3, but I've shot par probably like 10 or 11 times now, and only broken par once, with a 71. Had two chances to break par this weekend, but bogeyed the last two holes Saturday, and the last hole on Sunday. Lol, it's nice going into the last hole under par, I've just gotta hold out with a par (or not blast my putt 6' by the hole going for a 70).

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:46 PM

I'm playing off 5 right now, and have been as low as 2 in recent history.  I've been under pay maybe a half-dozen times, including twice in competitions.  I think the first time I did it my handicap was around 8 or 10, and I was playing on my own.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:04 PM

The secret is not to make more birdies, its to make more pars.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:54 PM

View PostAThompson_3, on 13 February 2018 - 03:04 PM, said:

The secret is not to make more birdies, its to make more pars.

That's super accurate. Eliminating bogeys and worse is absolutely key. Hell, on a good day, 2-3 birdies is a solid number for a round. 3 bogeys is pretty damn easy to have happen, and then you end up at even.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:03 PM

View Postcgr, on 13 February 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostAThompson_3, on 13 February 2018 - 03:04 PM, said:

The secret is not to make more birdies, its to make more pars.

That's super accurate. Eliminating bogeys and worse is absolutely key. Hell, on a good day, 2-3 birdies is a solid number for a round. 3 bogeys is pretty damn easy to have happen, and then you end up at even.
Yep. Most of the rounds where I make 5-6 birdies I also have a blow up hole or two where I make stupid triple or something. Everytime Iíve broken par itís been with 3 or less birdies. I was hitting my driver like crap one day last year, like 30 yard slices and duck hooks. REALLY bad. My home course is fairly easy, but if you miss the fairway by much you likely have a tree or two in your way. Stuck the Driver in the bag and made 15 pars, 2 birdies and a bogey. It wasnít the most enjoyable round of my life, but the scorecard donít care. Youíll luck into some birdies if you donít give up a par.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:05 PM

I've shot one under on 9 holes but never shot par nor under par for a full round of golf.  I'm hoping I'll catch lightening in a bottle one of these days.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:19 PM

View Postebrasmus21, on 13 February 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

I've shot one under on 9 holes but never shot par nor under par for a full round of golf.  I'm hoping I'll catch lightening in a bottle one of these days.
best way to get over the hump (no joke) is breaking the course up. set goals for certain stretches -- tell yourself "ok, play the first 6 holes even par"...then tell yourself and reset for the next 6...and finally the last 6...it goes a lot further than you think.

treat them all as independent rounds or challenges and you'll think less of the cumulative.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 08:17 AM

I'm off 7, shot level 21 years ago!!! 18 pars!!!

Since then had a few two over pars but that's the best I've done.

It's not easy!

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:13 AM

View PostAThompson_3, on 13 February 2018 - 04:03 PM, said:

You'll luck into some birdies if you don't give up a par.
Apparently this used to be Tiger's approach to the game (and may still be).  I don't remember where I saw the interview but it was way back in 1997 or something Tiger was asked what his goal was when he went out.  His response was that he wanted to shoot about 69.  Basically make no bogies, always play to the safe side of the hole, take a couple easy birdies on the par 5s, and it was always possible that he'd make some long putts or get lucky and miss some close to the pins to shoot a really low round.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:26 PM

Currently at a 2.7, I was a +2.8 two summers ago, and last summer I was a +1.9.  My game drops off early each season, since I had not been a member anywhere I pretty much stopped playing each year for 3 or so months.  Which obviously affected my ability to get up and down when my swing isn't on(which is often at the beginning of the season).  Last year my last round was in September, however I joined a course in January this year and have already played 6 rounds this year, which is about 6 more than I have played before March in the last 3-4 years.

The last two summers I have broken par or been even par numerous times.  The difference between each year is my driver.  My good and ok shots are about the same.  This past summer my bad Driver tee shots resulted in more penalties or the equivalent of penalties.  Meaning bad drives in jail in the woods(pitching out sideways) or hitting OB or into the water.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:17 PM

View Postgioguy21, on 13 February 2018 - 04:19 PM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 13 February 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

I've shot one under on 9 holes but never shot par nor under par for a full round of golf.  I'm hoping I'll catch lightening in a bottle one of these days.
best way to get over the hump (no joke) is breaking the course up. set goals for certain stretches -- tell yourself "ok, play the first 6 holes even par"...then tell yourself and reset for the next 6...and finally the last 6...it goes a lot further than you think.

treat them all as independent rounds or challenges and you'll think less of the cumulative.

I need to try that.  I think I put too much pressure on the round sometimes and I would do better taking smaller bites, if you will.  Good advice, thank you!
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:13 PM

For me, shooting below par is all about limiting mistakes.  I used to do it routinely back in high school, but that was 10 years ago.  Now that I can't play nearly as much and have been injured, I haven't in a long time.  The key has always been to limit mistakes, though.  Not many of us are going out there and making 6 birdies, but if you can keep doubles out and limit bogeys to a couple, that's your best shot imo.  FWIW I was a 0.5 index back in high school and now I'm a 5.3.  The thing that made that change is inconsistency from lack of play and not being able to limit bad holes.

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Posted 29 April 2018 - 04:13 PM

I'm a 6, broke par for first time a few months ago.. Week later shoot a 99... THAT'S WHATS WHATSp UP!!!


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Posted 29 April 2018 - 06:49 PM

I am a 7.1 currently, but what really helped me shoot under par previously was 3 things:

1. Never play to a yardage, always get as far down the hole as you can safely. More often than not putting a shorter club in your hands will bear more fruit for your labors than playing to some arbitrary favorite club distance.

2. Make 150 to 200 yards your favorite distance. I was always at my best when I had supreme confidence in this yardage range. Your confidence in this range will allow you to swing freely off the tee and still feel like you lose nothing going into the green.

3. Simplify your chipping to an up club and a down club. I always try to missÄĚ to an area that allowed me to chip (8 Iron) rather than pitch (wedge) giving me a chance not only to get up and down but steal a birdie or two every few rounds with chip-ins.

Edited by GolfChannel, 05 May 2018 - 02:47 PM.

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Posted 30 April 2018 - 10:40 AM

Many many years ago when I was a 2, I broke par quite often. Then I started getting older, the handicap started creeping up as life/work became more important, and those sub-par rounds got a lot more rare.

When I stopped playing a couple of years ago I think I shot one sub par round that year. With one hole-in-one. My average score on my home course was mid to high seventies back then.

I played my first full round last week as part of my comeback to this game, and if it was any indication of my future, it may be quite a while, if ever, before I see a sub-par round again. No doubles, but a number of three putts and a lot more bogeys than pars... :(
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 10:55 AM

I've played as low as about a 5 hcp, but the last couple years I've hovered around 7-10. I managed to shoot -1 and E each once in our 9 hole league but my bets 18 hole score is a 76 (+4).
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Posted 05 May 2018 - 12:51 PM

-2 today. My 3rd round under par in 6 months.

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Posted 07 May 2018 - 12:12 AM

I'm a 4 at my home course about a 10 on the road. Have broke par 6 times in my life, only two rds at home. Go figure.
Low was a 69, clean card, rare stuff, this golf thing isn't easy.


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