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#31 bullsfan

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:30 AM

View PostHescrience, on 09 August 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

First, let me start by saying I've only recently gotten obsessed with this game. (Played 2 times a week since March with the exception of a couple weeks here and there)
You can see my other post where I updated my progress and I think I have shown some promising things in the span of about 6 months.
Started out at the 95-105 mark and have dropped my score to 85-95 in that span.
The last couple months though I have plateaued! Argh!
I haven't had a single lesson and my equipment is not fitted towards me at all. Let me give you guys a list of what I use
Taylormade Burner driver/3 wood
Calloway Razr 5-9iron
Calloway big bertha(olddddd) 3-4iron(Please don't ask me how this happened lol I got my fathers hand me downs and he has slight anger issues when it comes to golf but who doesnt? They are in a lake somewhere)
The newest 56 degree wedge from Cleveland(It's the RTX 2.0)
Calloway Warbird 60 degree wedge
an old bronze golfsmith sand wedge
Taylormade '79 putter(It says '79 on it, it's not from 1979)

As you can see I have a whole bunch of brands and a whole bunch of differently aged clubs....
So I guess my question is. Is it really worth it to shell 2000+(estimate) on some new clubs/fitting?
Like.. I know lessons most definitely will improve my score. but the custom fitting/new clubs??
I am only 20 years old and honestly, If I can drop my score another 10 strokes by my 21st birthday in April then I am fully 100% prepared to give it a go at dedicating every day to this and becoming professional. It sounds like a stretch I know. But I gotta try it if I can get out of this hump.
Thanks for whatever you have to say on this topic! I appreciate all criticism and feedback!

Hey you live down here by me. Do yourself a favor, get
Ben Hogan's Five Lessons: The Modern Fundamentals of Golf.

It's a short book and easy read and IT will help. Take a lesson or two after with a PGA Pro and get to work. You'll soon realize what the Pro is speaking of and you will be better able to grasp the concepts. This book will give you everything you need to set a foundation to work with, no club or new tech will give you that. Cheaper too! When you get a better understanding about golf then you can decide where to go from there.

Good luck.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:36 PM

Ben Hogan five lessons: http://www.youtube.c...LXHmo0TZiBjbVT5

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:12 PM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 09 August 2017 - 05:35 PM, said:

View PostHescrience, on 09 August 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

First, let me start by saying I've only recently gotten obsessed with this game. (Played 2 times a week since March with the exception of a couple weeks here and there)
You can see my other post where I updated my progress and I think I have shown some promising things in the span of about 6 months.
Started out at the 95-105 mark and have dropped my score to 85-95 in that span.
The last couple months though I have plateaued! Argh!
I haven't had a single lesson and my equipment is not fitted towards me at all. Let me give you guys a list of what I use
Taylormade Burner driver/3 wood
Calloway Razr 5-9iron
Calloway big bertha(olddddd) 3-4iron(Please don't ask me how this happened lol I got my fathers hand me downs and he has slight anger issues when it comes to golf but who doesnt? They are in a lake somewhere)
The newest 56 degree wedge from Cleveland(It's the RTX 2.0)
Calloway Warbird 60 degree wedge
an old bronze golfsmith sand wedge
Taylormade '79 putter(It says '79 on it, it's not from 1979)

As you can see I have a whole bunch of brands and a whole bunch of differently aged clubs....
So I guess my question is. Is it really worth it to shell 2000+(estimate) on some new clubs/fitting?
Like.. I know lessons most definitely will improve my score. but the custom fitting/new clubs??
I am only 20 years old and honestly, If I can drop my score another 10 strokes by my 21st birthday in April then I am fully 100% prepared to give it a go at dedicating every day to this and becoming professional. It sounds like a stretch I know. But I gotta try it if I can get out of this hump.
Thanks for whatever you have to say on this topic! I appreciate all criticism and feedback!

1. Most professionals don't set out to be professionals. They just love golf and the rest takes care of itself. Don't be an ego golfer be a mastery golfer (and if you don't know what this means, buy some of gio valentine's books).

2. Don't listen to anyone who tells you great golfers need great short games. It's nonsense and it's antiquated. All great golfers have one thing in common - they hit tons of GIRs. Ball striking is king. The tour average from the sand is 2.74. If all you do is hack it out and two putt you won't be the worst on tour. With a handful of exceptions, professional golf is a collection of the best full swing players in the world. "Making par from anywhere" is a myth if you actually look at professional statistics.  Some of them can do that but they are a tiny minority.  You should focus on short game once your hitting 11-16 greens every single round. Not before.

3. Don't ever confuse score with game. Your score may have plateu'd. That doesn't mean you are an identical ability level. It can take a long time for improvement to show up in your scores.

4. Don't listen to anyone who says you can't do it. Your life is yours and you only get one. Read nick oherns book about how he made the tour. It's not much different from you right now.

5. Start playing in events right now. Playing with buddies and randoms is fun and all but it's about as much like playing in a tournament as whiffle ball is to baseball. Get used to it. The only way to shed the fear of tournaments is to look like an idiot in them a couple hundred times. Start now.

As I often do, I find myself agreeing almost whole-heartedly with PSGs advice here.

If putting was as important as amateurs describe it to be, then Adam Scott wouldn't be on tour. This is obviously the extreme end, but don't kid yourself - look at actual PGA tour data for middle of the pack players and you find GIR percentages much higher than even your normal "scratch" players in the local clubhouse hit on a regular basis. And frankly, they do it from all over. From 200 yards these guys are hitting greens - OFTEN. Obviously, proximity to the home averages decline, but this is where they 2 putt, move on with par, and attack the birdie holes.

If I could offer any advice, it would be this:

1) Work with someone who,

A. Knows the game, and I mean really understands the nuances of golf at a very high level. I'm talking about someone who's had exposure to extremely competitive golf - not your local scratch who cleans house on Saturday morning In the money games.

B. Knows the fundamentals of a good swing - seems self explanatory here...

C. Is progressive in their thinking/teaching. I was told my entire youth that I'd never make it competitively with my very strong grip and shut clubface. It was taboo in golf to play with this kind of grip as I would never be able to control my golf ball well enough to compete at the next level. Now you're lucky to find a new or younger player on tour without a strong grip. My point, your coach/instructor needs to be flexible and progressive.

D. Does not try to re-invent your golf swing. I know teachers who preach one swing, as if it's the only swing that can work. In reality, it's the only swing they know. There is a reason the PGA tour is filled with golfers with drastically different looking swings. The reality is, they all look great at impact, they are on plane, with a square clubface. This goes back to the fundamentals.

Anyway, I'll stop my (hopefully somewhat coherent) ramblings. If you are truly obsessed, become a student of the game and learn the nuances of competitive golf. As Pine said, there is no better way to learn and grow than to actually compete.

Good luck, OP!

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:36 PM

View PostMuskieCy, on 09 August 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

Start 3 feet from the hole, master that and move to 6". See how fast you the point of no return comes at you.

Then do it again,...and again,....and again......

When you think you can play a bit, play in your state association events. Get your head handed to you.

Then do it again,...and again,....and again......


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:53 PM

View Postthird-times-a-charm, on 09 August 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

Well at least you STARTED shooting 105...some people start shooting over 150 and have to go down from there.

Yep - those were the days ... but I had fun

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:20 AM

Golf is tough!  I'm stuck at 11 since last fall.   A couple of 76 and pars on one 9. Right now fall apart on a few holes.  Too many doubles and triples.   Comes from OB penalties, missing too many greens and 2 with occasional 3 put.  

For instance, Wednesday in my league shot 44 with 3 triples and 1 birdie.   I had 3 OB balls.  1 result of very bad luck.

Week before shot 40 with 2 birdies and 2 doubles.  

Plan and simple, just need better shot consistency tee to green.  Right now I just think I need to improve my swing tempo.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:12 PM

View PostLaymanM, on 12 August 2017 - 10:20 AM, said:

Golf is tough!  I'm stuck at 11 since last fall.   A couple of 76 and pars on one 9. Right now fall apart on a few holes.  Too many doubles and triples.   Comes from OB penalties, missing too many greens and 2 with occasional 3 put.  

For instance, Wednesday in my league shot 44 with 3 triples and 1 birdie.   I had 3 OB balls.  1 result of very bad luck.

Week before shot 40 with 2 birdies and 2 doubles.  

Plan and simple, just need better shot consistency tee to green.  Right now I just think I need to improve my swing tempo.

Shooting 44 with three OB balls is really impressive. Kudos. Shows a huge capacity to score.

Maybe instead of "swing tempo" you need to change where you aim. It is almost never correct to aim up the center of the fairway, for example.

I agree that golf is tough, but it's not always about the swing! If you don't aim well you don't want a good swing!
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:17 PM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 12 August 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

View PostLaymanM, on 12 August 2017 - 10:20 AM, said:

Golf is tough!  I'm stuck at 11 since last fall.   A couple of 76 and pars on one 9. Right now fall apart on a few holes.  Too many doubles and triples.   Comes from OB penalties, missing too many greens and 2 with occasional 3 put.  

For instance, Wednesday in my league shot 44 with 3 triples and 1 birdie.   I had 3 OB balls.  1 result of very bad luck.

Week before shot 40 with 2 birdies and 2 doubles.  

Plan and simple, just need better shot consistency tee to green.  Right now I just think I need to improve my swing tempo.

Shooting 44 with three OB balls is really impressive. Kudos. Shows a huge capacity to score.

Maybe instead of "swing tempo" you need to change where you aim. It is almost never correct to aim up the center of the fairway, for example.

I agree that golf is tough, but it's not always about the swing! If you don't aim well you don't want a good swing!
This is good advice. A safe shot that works is always better than a shot that was almost perfect...
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:23 PM

View Postpinestreetgolf, on 12 August 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

View PostLaymanM, on 12 August 2017 - 10:20 AM, said:

Golf is tough!  I'm stuck at 11 since last fall.   A couple of 76 and pars on one 9. Right now fall apart on a few holes.  Too many doubles and triples.   Comes from OB penalties, missing too many greens and 2 with occasional 3 put.  

For instance, Wednesday in my league shot 44 with 3 triples and 1 birdie.   I had 3 OB balls.  1 result of very bad luck.

Week before shot 40 with 2 birdies and 2 doubles.  

Plan and simple, just need better shot consistency tee to green.  Right now I just think I need to improve my swing tempo.

Shooting 44 with three OB balls is really impressive. Kudos. Shows a huge capacity to score.

Maybe instead of "swing tempo" you need to change where you aim. It is almost never correct to aim up the center of the fairway, for example.

I agree that golf is tough, but it's not always about the swing! If you don't aim well you don't want a good swing!

Thanks and also very frustrating lol
Appreciate the advice, I have started to out more thought into this for each club in the bag.  Work in progress, golf is a tough sport
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