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#511 Shotts

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:32 PM

Tomorrow will be my first go with my newly arrived 790's, looking forward to it rain or shine. :yahoo:


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:37 PM

These irons must be amazing if PXG is suing Taylormade.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:57 PM

 awtryau89, on 11 September 2017 - 12:40 PM, said:

 BirdieBob, on 11 September 2017 - 08:43 AM, said:

 cu1998tigers, on 11 September 2017 - 06:53 AM, said:

Understand what you are saying about loft however the launch angle was higher with the 790 and the decent angle was better. The technology allows for lower lofted irons. Not sure why we get hung up on the loft of the club. I am looking for performance and consistency. If a club had a loft of 35 degrees and performed great I would use that


Spin is due to loft;  height due to COG/loft.
If the Edel is not spinning as much with more loft then it is likely due to the grooves.

If the Edel had the same fresh grooves and the same swing speed then you will see more spin in that head vs the 790.
Just don't get mislead by the spin numbers.

Huge over simplification here. Spin is not controlled by "fresh" grooves to affect the total numbers by more than 100 rpms at most and in reality probably less. Spin loft will have a much greater impact. His attack angle for one club vs another and shaft load will impact this as well. CU I wouldn't put any stock into this and trust what you saw on the monitor.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:59 PM

My order still said being process :( when i logon and check order status via TM site. I custom 1 deg up and Modus Tour 105X. I preorder Sept 01.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:59 PM

 Llortamaisey, on 12 September 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

These irons must be amazing if PXG is suing Taylormade.

Nope, but they are half the price....which when you think about it is the core of PXG. It also ruins their claim ( and arrogant) phrase "nobody makes clubs the way we do, nobody"


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:00 PM

 Shotts, on 12 September 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

Tomorrow will be my first go with my newly arrived 790's, looking forward to it rain or shine. :yahoo:

Great, mine are arriving by the end of the week

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:40 PM

As an aside, it looks like TaylorMade have vastly improved the delivery timelines for this release vs the pre-orders for the 770/750 range which was an absolute balls up.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:10 PM

I think what goes to show people are really enjoying these irons more so than pxg lawsuit is the fact none have made it to bst yet lol

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:36 PM

 awtryau89, on 12 September 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

 kejoal11, on 12 September 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

 awtryau89, on 12 September 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Yeah, I sure hope that lawsuit doesn't delay the set I just ordered today. I was told they are backordered on the heads already until 9/18. That's just next week but that suit may change things. I ordered Modus 130s so I can't just go grab a set off the rack. Oh well.

where did you hear they were back ordered? I placed an order this morning as well and have not heard anything about them being back ordered.

My pro that ordered them was told that by our TM rep. He said they were out of heads at the current moment. They have another shipment coming Monday 9/18 and will be able to build mine then. Not sure if true but have no reason to not believe what the pro told me. I don't think he would lie.

Ok gotcha. No reason to doubt I was just curious as to where the info came from as i had not heard that before. I know people on here have an inside scoop so just curious.  Thanks for the feedback.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:42 AM

My 3-4 irons come Friday. Can't wait.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:46 AM

I ordered 3-PW w/ Aerotech Steelfiber 110's on August 28th, was given a ship date of September 19th
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:55 AM

 CBJ, on 13 September 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

I ordered 3-PW w/ Aerotech Steelfiber 110's on August 28th, was given a ship date of September 19th

I read on TM website they discontinued the 110's, did you have any trouble ordering those? My shaft is the 110 X and if I can get that shaft, these are being ordered.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:42 PM

Just talked to TM CS, placed order for 790's on 9/10; won't ship unit 9/26. CS rep stated heads are on backorder.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:58 PM

Do these feel "forged" soft? Had MP-54's, have hit a few other forgings like MP25, CF16. Looking for something with less offset and a little thinner topline than my current irons, and none of the GI clubs are really fitting the bill other than maybe AP3 and JPX900 Forged... Maybe MP-18 MMC.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:18 PM

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Do these feel "forged" soft? Had MP-54's, have hit a few other forgings like MP25, CF16. Looking for something with less offset and a little thinner topline than my current irons, and none of the GI clubs are really fitting the bill other than maybe AP3 and JPX900 Forged... Maybe MP-18 MMC.

I went from apex pro irons to the 790's and to me, I believe the 790 feels softer than the apex pro.  Again to me, they have that forged soft feel.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:20 PM

 DBill, on 13 September 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Do these feel "forged" soft? Had MP-54's, have hit a few other forgings like MP25, CF16. Looking for something with less offset and a little thinner topline than my current irons, and none of the GI clubs are really fitting the bill other than maybe AP3 and JPX900 Forged... Maybe MP-18 MMC.

I went from apex pro irons to the 790's and to me, I believe the 790 feels softer than the apex pro.  Again to me, they have that forged soft feel.
How's offset? Also, are you getting decent spin? All the vids I'm seeing online, guys are on the low end spectrum of spin... Ie the 7i spinning high 5000's or low 6000's. I'd maybe need to weaken the lofts.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:26 PM

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

 DBill, on 13 September 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Do these feel "forged" soft? Had MP-54's, have hit a few other forgings like MP25, CF16. Looking for something with less offset and a little thinner topline than my current irons, and none of the GI clubs are really fitting the bill other than maybe AP3 and JPX900 Forged... Maybe MP-18 MMC.

I went from apex pro irons to the 790's and to me, I believe the 790 feels softer than the apex pro.  Again to me, they have that forged soft feel.
How's offset? Also, are you getting decent spin? All the vids I'm seeing online, guys are on the low end spectrum of spin... Ie the 7i spinning high 5000's or low 6000's. I'd maybe need to weaken the lofts.

Offset is less with the 790 as well.  I will post my trackmam numbers comparing the 6 iron apex pro with tour issue x100 to the 790 6 iron with Modus tour 130x.  I was getting almost identical spin numbers, right around 6000

Edited by DBill, 13 September 2017 - 02:26 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:28 PM

Trackman data with the 790 6 iron vs apex pro 6 iron.  The length of the Apex Pro was actually 1/4" longer than the 790 throughout the set as well.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:39 PM

 DBill, on 13 September 2017 - 02:28 PM, said:

Trackman data with the 790 6 iron vs apex pro 6 iron.  The length of the Apex Pro was actually 1/4" longer than the 790 throughout the set as well.
Looks like you were slightly steeper and faster with the 790, which would have brought the spin numbers closer together.  There's a 3.5 degree difference in loft between the two clubs.  They're basically different clubs, 790 is a 5 iron based on lofts of yesterday.  So you would expect the 790 to be ~1k spin less.

Impressive club head speed, btw.

Edited by Bravcon, 13 September 2017 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:40 PM

Dude, you're a beast lol. 103 on the 6i?? Lay off the 'roids my man B)

That's good though you're spin is still up there, although mine would be less because I swing my 6i at a mere 91mph or so.

My fiancÚ is buying me an iron fitting as an engagement present to me, so I'm trying to narrow what sets I really want to take a look at. Currently about an 19 cap, but my weakness is not my iron or wedge play, it's mainly hitting sick nasty hooks off the tee that find OB or woods. Of course I still don't strike the 5i perfectly every time, but my SG18 stats tell me I'm garbage off the tee and that I still need to avoid that 3w off the deck to make it on the green in 2. I've had MP-54's and my scores did not suddenly skyrocket... so0o...

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:51 PM

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

 DBill, on 13 September 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Do these feel "forged" soft? Had MP-54's, have hit a few other forgings like MP25, CF16. Looking for something with less offset and a little thinner topline than my current irons, and none of the GI clubs are really fitting the bill other than maybe AP3 and JPX900 Forged... Maybe MP-18 MMC.

I went from apex pro irons to the 790's and to me, I believe the 790 feels softer than the apex pro.  Again to me, they have that forged soft feel.
How's offset? Also, are you getting decent spin? All the vids I'm seeing online, guys are on the low end spectrum of spin... Ie the 7i spinning high 5000's or low 6000's. I'd maybe need to weaken the lofts.
I wouldn't do anything with the lofts.  You'll affect the bounce if you do.  I would just make sure that whatever the shortest iron is in your 790 set doesn't cause gapping issues with your wedges.  Could even go 5-AW if you have to.  Personally, I usually hit a 45 degree pitching wedge around 150 yards, which fits in nicely with my 50 degree wedge that's not a part of the set.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:54 PM

Looking forward to reading On Course reviews... very intrigued on that Speed Foam material and how soft these will play.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:07 PM

This^^^^^^
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:07 PM

 Bravcon, on 13 September 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

 DBill, on 13 September 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Do these feel "forged" soft? Had MP-54's, have hit a few other forgings like MP25, CF16. Looking for something with less offset and a little thinner topline than my current irons, and none of the GI clubs are really fitting the bill other than maybe AP3 and JPX900 Forged... Maybe MP-18 MMC.

I went from apex pro irons to the 790's and to me, I believe the 790 feels softer than the apex pro.  Again to me, they have that forged soft feel.
How's offset? Also, are you getting decent spin? All the vids I'm seeing online, guys are on the low end spectrum of spin... Ie the 7i spinning high 5000's or low 6000's. I'd maybe need to weaken the lofts.
I wouldn't do anything with the lofts.  You'll affect the bounce if you do.  I would just make sure that whatever the shortest iron is in your 790 set doesn't cause gapping issues with your wedges.  Could even go 5-AW if you have to.  Personally, I usually hit a 45 degree pitching wedge around 150 yards, which fits in nicely with my 50 degree wedge that's not a part of the set.
1* weak shouldn't affect much, especially in something like an 8i when the bounce is only 2-3* or so. And spin isn't the whole equation, it's really (for me at least) optimizing the trade off between spin, distance, launch, decent angle and feel when you take shaft into account. I can live with lower spin if my DA from my 7i is high enough where I won't be running my ball to the back of a green on a front flag.

Is there anything else really competing with the 790 in this segment right now (non-blade, semi player forging?) I'm having trouble other than our dear friend Bob Parson's version of this club. I figured maybe MP-18, but looking at them, they are much more bladed looking and shaped.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:12 PM

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 03:07 PM, said:

 Bravcon, on 13 September 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

 DBill, on 13 September 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Do these feel "forged" soft? Had MP-54's, have hit a few other forgings like MP25, CF16. Looking for something with less offset and a little thinner topline than my current irons, and none of the GI clubs are really fitting the bill other than maybe AP3 and JPX900 Forged... Maybe MP-18 MMC.

I went from apex pro irons to the 790's and to me, I believe the 790 feels softer than the apex pro.  Again to me, they have that forged soft feel.
How's offset? Also, are you getting decent spin? All the vids I'm seeing online, guys are on the low end spectrum of spin... Ie the 7i spinning high 5000's or low 6000's. I'd maybe need to weaken the lofts.
I wouldn't do anything with the lofts.  You'll affect the bounce if you do.  I would just make sure that whatever the shortest iron is in your 790 set doesn't cause gapping issues with your wedges.  Could even go 5-AW if you have to.  Personally, I usually hit a 45 degree pitching wedge around 150 yards, which fits in nicely with my 50 degree wedge that's not a part of the set.
1* weak shouldn't affect much, especially in something like an 8i when the bounce is only 2-3* or so. And spin isn't the whole equation, it's really (for me at least) optimizing the trade off between spin, distance, launch, decent angle and feel when you take shaft into account. I can live with lower spin if my DA from my 7i is high enough where I won't be running my ball to the back of a green on a front flag.

Is there anything else really competing with the 790 in this segment right now (non-blade, semi player forging?) I'm having trouble other than our dear friend Bob Parson's version of this club. I figured maybe MP-18, but looking at them, they are much more bladed looking and shaped.
Apex CF 16 probably.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:33 PM

 Vespar, on 12 September 2017 - 09:59 PM, said:

 Llortamaisey, on 12 September 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

These irons must be amazing if PXG is suing Taylormade.

Nope, but they are half the price....which when you think about it is the core of PXG. It also ruins their claim ( and arrogant) phrase "nobody makes clubs the way we do, nobody"

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:44 PM

I like stronger lofted irons but the 5 degree gaps in the shorter irons is a big issue for me.  Is Taylormade willing to change the loft 1 or 2 degree depending on the iron?

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:09 PM

 Bravcon, on 13 September 2017 - 03:12 PM, said:

 Z1ggy16, on 13 September 2017 - 03:07 PM, said:


1* weak shouldn't affect much, especially in something like an 8i when the bounce is only 2-3* or so. And spin isn't the whole equation, it's really (for me at least) optimizing the trade off between spin, distance, launch, decent angle and feel when you take shaft into account. I can live with lower spin if my DA from my 7i is high enough where I won't be running my ball to the back of a green on a front flag.

Is there anything else really competing with the 790 in this segment right now (non-blade, semi player forging?) I'm having trouble other than our dear friend Bob Parson's version of this club. I figured maybe MP-18, but looking at them, they are much more bladed looking and shaped.
Apex CF 16 probably.
You mean, whenever CF18 comes out..? ;)
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:57 PM

 ATXHorn, on 13 September 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

 CBJ, on 13 September 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

I ordered 3-PW w/ Aerotech Steelfiber 110's on August 28th, was given a ship date of September 19th

I read on TM website they discontinued the 110's, did you have any trouble ordering those? My shaft is the 110 X and if I can get that shaft, these are being ordered.

Don't think I have a problem, ordered them via Discount Dan's. They didn't tell me the 110's weren't available
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 05:38 PM

3 rounds on them and it only took me about 9 holes to get adjusted.  Really impressed with the performance of these irons so far.  Distance, dispersion, and launch is all improved for me.  Regarding the 0311 XF's, I have a set and I much prefer the 790's in all facets of performance.  Have 7 rounds over the next 4 days so they will get a good work-out.


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