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Looking for more distance with a 100 mph swingspeed.


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#1 InspiredGolf

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Posted 23 March 2008 - 04:54 PM

I know I should go find a launch monitor and test all the new drivers but I figured I would ask you guys since it is easter Sunday and everything is closed. I would like to hear what you guy are playing that have a similar swingspeed.
My specs are below:
100mph swingspeed
Smooth tempo (6'4" Height).
Ball flight: straight to draw.
Handicap 6 and I am a solid ball striker.
I currently have a TM r7 460 10.5* driver with a SST PURED V2 55 (45" / stiff flex). I hit it very straight but I think I should carry the ball 240.
My trajectory is mid - high and I carry it about 225 to 235.
Last time I was on a launch monitor I was a hitting a 975L-FE 9.5* with a graphite design ys6 (stiff flex) and
my launch was 16.6*, spin rate was 3337, ball speed was 145 and my carry was 225.
I am not tied to any one brand so that is not any big deal. I was thinking about trying a 10.5* 905r with the ys6 shaft.
Thanks!


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Posted 23 March 2008 - 05:26 PM

I have a very similar swing speed, and I play what is in the signature.

I think the V2 is a fairly firm shaft, and I previously used a 75g in Regular in a 905R, and that was a good club/shaft combo. The GD shaft is much more flexible, and the Stiff is easily playable at 100mph, maybe even slightly soft.

I reckon 100 mph should get 240 yards carry in average conditions, but to be honest if you hit a bunch of fairways and have a decent iron game, I would probably take that over 10 yards more and more missed fairways. I have had some of my best rounds when the driver was on the bench and I hit 3 wood from most tees.

I am not an expert in the numbers from a LM, but perhaps you are getting a little too much spin and losing the ball in the air. Does the ball come down without much run? What happens if you try a 9.5 degree driver?

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Posted 23 March 2008 - 05:47 PM

Instead of a new club try a DT Roll ball. My speed is a little faster but I tried this ball today and was very impressed with the extra roll. I hit two par 5's in two and a 310 yd par 4 in one.

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Posted 23 March 2008 - 11:17 PM

View PostInspiredGolf, on Mar 23 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

I know I should go find a launch monitor and test all the new drivers but I figured I would ask you guys since it is easter Sunday and everything is closed. I would like to hear what you guy are playing that have a similar swingspeed.
My specs are below:
100mph swingspeed
Smooth tempo (6'4" Height).
Ball flight: straight to draw.
Handicap 6 and I am a solid ball striker.
I currently have a TM r7 460 10.5* driver with a SST PURED V2 55 (45" / stiff flex). I hit it very straight but I think I should carry the ball 240.
My trajectory is mid - high and I carry it about 225 to 235.
Last time I was on a launch monitor I was a hitting a 975L-FE 9.5* with a graphite design ys6 (stiff flex) and
my launch was 16.6*, spin rate was 3337, ball speed was 145 and my carry was 225.
I am not tied to any one brand so that is not any big deal. I was thinking about trying a 10.5* 905r with the ys6 shaft.
Thanks!

I preface this by saying I'm no expert but it sounds like your launch angle and spin are both too high. I recently went through a few launch monitor sessions with the guys over at Ping and for my swing (100-105mph) we came up with our best results launching at about 14.5* with 2400rpm. That's giving me a carry of about 245-250 and a landing angle of 37-38*, which I believe is ideal according to trackman research. My resulting rollout varies according to conditions of course but I have hit 275 comfortably in level windless conditions with reasonably firm fairway. I say get with a good fitter and you can likely make some solid improvements.

FYI , I'm playing a Burner TP 9.5* with Rombax 7W06, Stiff flex trimmed to 6.5 Frequency, 45" length. The Ping G10 spec that would have given me similar ballflight was 8.5* with the TFC129D in Stiff. Every swing is different however so take my fitting with a grain of salt.

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 12:17 AM

View PostBrendanH, on Mar 23 2008, 09:17 PM, said:

View PostInspiredGolf, on Mar 23 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

I know I should go find a launch monitor and test all the new drivers but I figured I would ask you guys since it is easter Sunday and everything is closed. I would like to hear what you guy are playing that have a similar swingspeed.
My specs are below:
100mph swingspeed
Smooth tempo (6'4" Height).
Ball flight: straight to draw.
Handicap 6 and I am a solid ball striker.
I currently have a TM r7 460 10.5* driver with a SST PURED V2 55 (45" / stiff flex). I hit it very straight but I think I should carry the ball 240.
My trajectory is mid - high and I carry it about 225 to 235.
Last time I was on a launch monitor I was a hitting a 975L-FE 9.5* with a graphite design ys6 (stiff flex) and
my launch was 16.6*, spin rate was 3337, ball speed was 145 and my carry was 225.
I am not tied to any one brand so that is not any big deal. I was thinking about trying a 10.5* 905r with the ys6 shaft.
Thanks!

I preface this by saying I'm no expert but it sounds like your launch angle and spin are both too high. I recently went through a few launch monitor sessions with the guys over at Ping and for my swing (100-105mph) we came up with our best results launching at about 14.5* with 2400rpm. That's giving me a carry of about 245-250 and a landing angle of 37-38*, which I believe is ideal according to trackman research. My resulting rollout varies according to conditions of course but I have hit 275 comfortably in level windless conditions with reasonably firm fairway. I say get with a good fitter and you can likely make some solid improvements.

FYI , I'm playing a Burner TP 9.5* with Rombax 7W06, Stiff flex trimmed to 6.5 Frequency, 45" length. The Ping G10 spec that would have given me similar ballflight was 8.5* with the TFC129D in Stiff. Every swing is different however so take my fitting with a grain of salt.

Are those the ideal numbers I should be looking for to maximize distance?
14.5* launch angle
2400 spin rate

Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Thanks!


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Posted 24 March 2008 - 07:55 AM

Also no expert or clubmaker so take with a pinch of salt but If you swing at 100mph i would say that the launch angle is fine at 14.5 but the spin rate needs to be higher than 2400 to increase carry, more spin more carry.

2400 rpms is fine if you swing at 115-120 but like i said you will probably need more carry at your swingspeed so a rate of about 3000 would probably be better suited.

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 08:39 AM

I just went through the same thing with a SS of ~100-102.  I play what's in the signature, though there might be a better shaft for me to investigate at some point.

For reference, I'm carrying about 245 with the new setup and I swing it about the same.  I had the same experience with my 905S, which I was hitting about 255-260 but too low and it was all runout.  I don't hit the new club much longer - maybe 5 yards - but the carry is better so I wind up getting out to the 260-270 range when it bounces.

10.5 loft seems too much to me.

Also, I'm no expert, just like the others :rolleyes:

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 09:32 AM

I am not a clubfitter or a LM expert by no means, but I was in the same position as you this winter.  My SS is the same as yours and I too was spinning the ball too much, however my LA was okay at 13 degrees.  I was gaming a Titleist 907D2 with a Diamana Blueboard 63s and a Titleist 905R with a UST V2 65.  Both were 9.5 degrees of loft.  I was primarily just looking at Titleist heads because I prefer them, but I wanted to find the combination that would maintain my LA of 13 degrees but lower my spin.  My spin rate was at 3300rpms.  What I found after some serious testing of several different shafts was that the D2 coupled with the Diamana Blueboard 73s was the best fit for me to achieve what I was looking for.  Now I have my spin rate down to 26-2700 rpms and I have maintained my LA of 13 degrees.  With this set up I am carrying the ball consistently 250+ and getting a good amount of roll at the end, depending on course conditions though.

This is what I would recommend to you.  First I would suggest that you need to move to a heavier shaft with a low torque, and drop down in loft at least 1-1.5 degrees in loft.  Your current shaft the V2 55 is 57 grams and has a torque of 3.7.  By moving to a heavier shaft and lower loft it should reduce your spin and LA.  I would recommend a shaft in the 65-75 gram weight class and try to keep your torque rating somewhere between 2.8 to 3.4 to help with controlling the head.  Here is a list of shafts I would recommend you take a look at.  Again I am in no means an expert or claim to be, this is just based off my personal experience and hoping it might help you.

$250-$300 range
Diamana Blueboard 73          
Diamana Whiteboard 73        
Matrix X-Con 6                      
Fujikura Rombax 6x07  

$100-$200 range
Graphite Design Pershing 65
Aldila VS Proto 70
Grafalloy Pro Launch Red 65
UST V2 65 or 75

Any of these would be great choices to start your search with.  The best way to try them is to find a fitter that has either the TM, Callaway, or Nike fitting systems that you can hit each of these shaft to see how they perform for you.  Good Luck!!!

Edited by twgolf, 24 March 2008 - 09:33 AM.

Titleist 910D3 9.5 w/Diamana D+ 72s
Titleist 910F 15 w/stock Kai'li 75s
Titleist 910H 19 w/stock Kai'li 80s
Titleist AP2 712 3-W DGS300
Vokey SM4 52-08 & 56-11
Bettinardi BC6 34" 343g




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