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#31 Directed Force Putters

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:38 PM

The 1.0 had a lead rod in the tip and that prevented the shaft tip from flexing optimally and it was a substantially stiffer shaft to start with. Also the 1.0 has a ball scoop that was narrower making it harder to scoop up the ball. The 2.0 and 2.1 have a bigger ball scoop making it super easy to scoop the ball when your given the putt ;-) The 2.0 and the 2.1 have 'tiny lead bb's' mixes with super fine silica which fills in all the spaces between the bb's (granular convection) and then ram rodded to compact. This process allows the shaft tip to recoil right and provides more 'pop' without being so heavy. The result is dramatically improved distance control and better feel all around. Some of the early models had a black painted shaft that would chip like all other black painted shafts and the 2.0 and 2.1 have a specially design led E.I. Curve profile specially design for DFP and a black matte PVD coating that doesn't chip. The 1.0 has 1.5* loft and the 2.0 and 2.1 have 2* loft (face to sole plate) this allows for a little more margin of forgivingness especially on fuzzy green but yet still superb on tour speed greens. We also found a German made material for Press Grips that holds up better and gets 'better with age).

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:52 AM

View Postfletcher6490, on 25 September 2017 - 05:16 PM, said:

View PostDirected Force Putters, on 25 September 2017 - 03:37 AM, said:

Hello everyone, Bill Presse IV here. The new 2.1 has a lasered T instead of machining it into the top line which completely eliminates glare. It also has a slightly softer tip which is providing more pop off the face to dramatically improve distance control. If you do own a 1.0 you can send it in and we will reshaft, reweight, regrip and rebalance it for $50. Essentially making it a 2.0 ...I've been watching these threads for the last few years and LISTENING to your feedback and comments. The 2.1 is a culmination of performance improvements based on your feedback and constructive criticism and I just want to personally say thanks to those that have been honest about their experience with DFP. We have chosen to sponsor GolfWRX for a 'trial period' to see how it goes and also allow me to get on here and respond to your questions and comments. Thanks again for the continued support, fire away and I'll do my best to respond in a timely manner. Cheers

I have a first edition DF putter and would agree about the glare.

What are the major differences between the 1.0, 2.0 and 2.1?  If I send my 1.0 back, how do I get a 2.1 model?

What's the difference between the 2.0 and 2.1 version?

Thanks.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 05:13 PM

Stainless steel set and balancing screws(rust proof) and the T is lasered into the black type III anodizing turning it into white oxide so no glare a chip proof
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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:47 AM

Are all putters purchased on the website going to be the 2.1 from now on?
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Posted 29 September 2017 - 10:34 AM

View Postosubuckeyes691, on 29 September 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

Are all putters purchased on the website going to be the 2.1 from now on?

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 10:37 AM

We have some 2.0's that are in certain Lie Angles and they will be first out in those specs (they have machined T lines instead of lasered, otherwise they are the same). Once I know your lie angle I can give you a better and more accurate  answer👍
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 06:41 PM

View Postfletcher6490, on 25 September 2017 - 05:16 PM, said:

View PostDirected Force Putters, on 25 September 2017 - 03:37 AM, said:

Hello everyone, Bill Presse IV here. The new 2.1 has a lasered T instead of machining it into the top line which completely eliminates glare. It also has a slightly softer tip which is providing more pop off the face to dramatically improve distance control. If you do own a 1.0 you can send it in and we will reshaft, reweight, regrip and rebalance it for $50. Essentially making it a 2.0 ...I've been watching these threads for the last few years and LISTENING to your feedback and comments. The 2.1 is a culmination of performance improvements based on your feedback and constructive criticism and I just want to personally say thanks to those that have been honest about their experience with DFP. We have chosen to sponsor GolfWRX for a 'trial period' to see how it goes and also allow me to get on here and respond to your questions and comments. Thanks again for the continued support, fire away and I'll do my best to respond in a timely manner. Cheers

I have a first edition DF putter and would agree about the glare.

What are the major differences between the 1.0, 2.0 and 2.1?  If I send my 1.0 back, how do I get a 2.1 model?

Hi guys, apologies but the price for the upgrade from 1.0 to 2.0 was a typo! The correct price for that upgrade is $100 (plus shipping each way of course).
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:10 PM

Very much enjoying the new 2.1 - shame the season is getting very short.

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 12:37 PM

View PostPowderedToastMan, on 17 July 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

According to Taylormade, the DF is extremely low MOI and is terrible on off-centered strikes. Everyone who owns one hasn't experienced this at all, but just thought you should know.

This video might shed some light on this subject:
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Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:46 PM

View PostHawkeye77, on 17 October 2017 - 07:10 PM, said:

Very much enjoying the new 2.1 - shame the season is getting very short.
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Posted 24 October 2017 - 11:50 PM

View Postferrispgm, on 17 July 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

Ok...so after shooting 72 and missing 2 birdies and an eagle inside of 5 ft and three 3 putts.....I'm ready to ditch my putter....been heavily considering the Directed Force as I know it got pretty popular on here a little while ago....My question is who still uses and likes it?  My only concern is the initial honeymoon period that seems to happen with most clubs.  I posted on the instruction forum since it was talked about quite a bit on here.

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Hi, just saw this post and want to see if you’ve been fitted or rolled the 2.1? Thanks for the consideration and apologies for not seeing his earlier, still trying to figure out how to ‘surf’ wrx and follow up to posts...
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 10:25 AM

I tried it for a season - did not putt well. Can’t even trade it in anywhere.

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Posted 18 November 2017 - 06:30 PM

I've used my DF 2.0 since late August - distance control is excellent. On long putts, I don't pull the trigger, so that's on me. But today, I made 3 10+ footers, a 23 footer rolled around the hole, then out, and on several others, distance control was excellent, but the line was off an inch or two. It's allowed me to have the confidence to allow a very light grip on the putter grip - very relaxed after a hole or two. Even when nervous, the putter takes over if allowed. Enjoying it.
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Posted 21 November 2017 - 04:36 PM

I fell back in love with my DFP again. I was struggling for a while and got a putting lesson and went back to my DFP. It is never the putters fault. I have finally stop searching for a "quick fix".

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 09:10 PM

I’ve only been able to putt on the practice green a few times since getting my DF but will finally get a chance to put it to the test during a couple of tournaments over the next few weeks. I’m anxious to see how it performs when it counts caused I’m loving the way it works in practice.

Initially I thought the key was a very light grip pressure but with further practice I’m leaning towards a little firmer grip but with a very relaxed arm/shoulder unit (I  felt a little “sloppy” with a real light grip pressure). IMO it’s all about allowing this putter to move the way it wants to......on an arc square to your lie angle. It can be done a variety of ways but you have to NOT interfere with how it wants to move.


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 08:26 PM

Finally had the chance to put the DF to the test during a 2-day event. This was not only my first tournament in over 6 months it was my first 2 rounds of golf in that same amount of time. I’ve practiced a bit over the last week and spent probably an hour on the putting green with the DF.

The greens we played on were very firm and very fast with plenty of subtle breaks. I am VERY impressed with the way this putter performed. Despite a lot of rust on my game (particularly my iron play) I putted better than usual on day 1 and had one of my better putting days in recent and not so recent memory on day 2! As has been mentIoned in some of the DF threads this putter is so money inside 6 feet. The ability to make a stroke and KNOW that the putter is going to swing on the path defined by the lie angle produces such a good roll and in turn breeds confidence. I won’t go thru a bunch of stats but I surprised myself at the number of tricky 3 to 6 footers I made that allowed me to keep my round 2 momentum going.

I liked my initial impressions while practicing with it but after it’s initial test run under tournament conditions I couldn’t be happier with my Directed Force putter. I’m slowly selling off several of my “high tone” putters as I don’t see how the DF comes out of the bag.

Thank you Bill Presse!

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 11:49 PM

I had mine in the bag since April 2017. I have the 2.0.

It's pure joy to enjoy putting with confidence.

I've had a staff bag full-o-putters, everything from an 8802, Anser, 2 ball fang, 7H, Yar and 3 arm locks but this one is the best thus far. Many of them are gorgeous and there are many in there that I would class as "point and shoot" for me but NONE of them have the "stability" as I experienced with this putter. This to me is super critical on those 4 to 6 footers where I tend to push or pull. The arm lock was the closest to resolving this issue but it was not "perfect" and it has its flaws.

2 weekends ago, I played in a 2 man scramble tournament at Westlake Village GC, CA, lets just say that a 20 ft curving downhill putt in the middle of the hole on the #3 hole ENERGIZED my partner & I to a 3 hole birdie stretched. In the end we came in 2nd place.

The DF putter was on fire, saved more critical pars and gave us more birdies.

It does take a little while to adjust. Also learning to middle the shaft in the stance and allow a "natural" forward press is the trick.  Do not add any forward ball position.

Also, I am ordering one for one of my junior girl golfers. She made it to All League finals for her High School, a first for her school as she is the only freshman among the senior girls. Next year, her putting will be much better with her DF 2.1 putter :taunt:
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Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:23 AM

In the bag since August and improving distance control with it. Play 2X per week. Put the Edel back in the bag for half a round, and then put the DF back in. My putts are closer to the hole even on long putts, and unfortunately, I've had a couple of 60 foot 2 Putts with it. Unfortunate, because no one wants to be 60 feet away on the green :-)

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:21 PM

Didn’t work for me and I was professionally fitted.

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 06:45 PM

Played 45 holes this weekend - DF did well. Holed some birdies, had a bunch of "almosts". What I like is that the stroke need not be perfect to get a great result.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 12:24 AM

Buyer beware, i would be very careful purchasing a Directed Force Putter right now. There is an effort going on to oust Bill Presse, the inventor and founder of the Directed Force Putter, from the company,  and to discredit his work creating the technology behind these awesome flat sticks.

Don’t purchase a DF until Billy is brought back and rightfully recognized for his creation of Directed Force

In the mean time, you can contact Bill these ways:

Twitter: DFPutters
facebook : Directed Force Putters
Billy’s personal facebook : Bill Presse IV

Bill was fantastic to work with when I bought my DF. Let’s get the man the recognition he deserves and avoid the theft of his intellectual property! Boycott Directed Force!

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 10:26 AM

View PostSchnee, on 02 January 2018 - 12:24 AM, said:

Buyer beware, i would be very careful purchasing a Directed Force Putter right now. There is an effort going on to oust Bill Presse, the inventor and founder of the Directed Force Putter, from the company,  and to discredit his work creating the technology behind these awesome flat sticks.

Don’t purchase a DF until Billy is brought back and rightfully recognized for his creation of Directed Force

In the mean time, you can contact Bill these ways:

Twitter: DFPutters
facebook : Directed Force Putters
Billy’s personal facebook : Bill Presse IV

Bill was fantastic to work with when I bought my DF. Let’s get the man the recognition he deserves and avoid the theft of his intellectual property! Boycott Directed Force!

Whoa! I thought something was fishy with their New Year giveaway.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 03:58 PM

Definitely whoa there, i didn't get the sense of that & texted billP. i'll wait & see dut definitely concerned 4 sure since i need to order for my junior :(

Edited by SwingBlues, 02 January 2018 - 03:59 PM.

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Callaway Epic GBB 8° draw bias, Fujikura Limited Edition 17/150 "Masters" ATMOS 6X, finished length 44"


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Cobra F8 One Length irons 4 to PW, KBS Tour V
Cleveland RTX 3.0 Cavity Back 50* and 52* wedges
Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
Directed Force  Reno 2.0 Putter 34"


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:12 PM

I’ll 2nd the “whoa”!

Disappointing to hear. Any more details Schnee? I hate to hear someone’s trying to squeeze Bill out. Hoping he was savvy enough to put together an air-tight patent that he can take with him as needed. I can see how some putter manufacturers would love to get there hands on this technology.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:24 PM

I texted billV so he knows about this thread :)

Ping G400 Max 9°, Kuro Kage Dual Core 60 Prototype TS flex, finished length 44"
Callaway Epic GBB 8° draw bias, Fujikura Limited Edition 17/150 "Masters" ATMOS 6X, finished length 44"


Mizuno FliHI 2 iron bent 1* strong, C-Taper Lite stiff shaft
Taylormade UDI 2 iron, 18* KBS C-Taper Lite stiff shaft

Cobra F8 One Length irons 4 to PW, KBS Tour V
Cleveland RTX 3.0 Cavity Back 50* and 52* wedges
Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
Directed Force  Reno 2.0 Putter 34"


Ball: who knows...
Swing: PPGS, a Surgite !!!

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:32 PM

View Postrobbohank, on 02 January 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

I’ll 2nd the “whoa”!

Disappointing to hear. Any more details Schnee? I hate to hear someone’s trying to squeeze Bill out. Hoping he was savvy enough to put together an air-tight patent that he can take with him as needed. I can see how some putter manufacturers would love to get there hands on this technology.

It appears as though Bill, his father and another investor, have equal equity in Directed Force. Bill has been outvoted on a number of items including introducing new putter models, new Presse Grip models, etc. Most recently, his two partners (including his father) have forced him out of daily operations by limiting his compensation to 30 hours per month at a ridiculously low rate (i believe It was around $10-15 per hour.)

They’ve taken to a few social media outlets, leaving Bill out as founder and inventor, and insinuating that he quit of his own choosing.
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 05:01 PM

Thanks Schnee, I'll hold off till Bill is back in the saddle. I think most WRXers are die hard supporters who will do whats right & not put up with horsesh*t.

I really feel for Bill, to be put into this position by his father and hope & pray for a good outcome and for whats right. Bill is a great person to deal with, talked to him and texted him and he was supportive when we had the Creekside Fires here that nearly burnt my house.

I wish him the best and pray for a positive and amiable out come for him & his family.

Edited by SwingBlues, 02 January 2018 - 05:04 PM.

Ping G400 Max 9°, Kuro Kage Dual Core 60 Prototype TS flex, finished length 44"
Callaway Epic GBB 8° draw bias, Fujikura Limited Edition 17/150 "Masters" ATMOS 6X, finished length 44"


Mizuno FliHI 2 iron bent 1* strong, C-Taper Lite stiff shaft
Taylormade UDI 2 iron, 18* KBS C-Taper Lite stiff shaft

Cobra F8 One Length irons 4 to PW, KBS Tour V
Cleveland RTX 3.0 Cavity Back 50* and 52* wedges
Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
Directed Force  Reno 2.0 Putter 34"


Ball: who knows...
Swing: PPGS, a Surgite !!!

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 05:39 PM

You would just think that they would keep private family business private. Gets a bit messy putting it all over the internet and not great for sales

Edited by Swisstrader98, 02 January 2018 - 05:40 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 06:33 PM

As usual......follow the money.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 12:19 PM

View PostSwisstrader98, on 02 January 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

You would just think that they would keep private family business private. Gets a bit messy putting it all over the internet and not great for sales

Whats the point of "a sale" if the guy who knows the secret sauce & his builder is no longer there? Be like buying a Scotty without Scotty & playing top notch $ for "Scotty". I appreciate the news & update as I was going to buy another DF for my junior but now, I'll wait & see. I trust Bill to do the fitting and work but he's no longer there. Jus sayin'

Edited by SwingBlues, 03 January 2018 - 12:23 PM.

Ping G400 Max 9°, Kuro Kage Dual Core 60 Prototype TS flex, finished length 44"
Callaway Epic GBB 8° draw bias, Fujikura Limited Edition 17/150 "Masters" ATMOS 6X, finished length 44"


Mizuno FliHI 2 iron bent 1* strong, C-Taper Lite stiff shaft
Taylormade UDI 2 iron, 18* KBS C-Taper Lite stiff shaft

Cobra F8 One Length irons 4 to PW, KBS Tour V
Cleveland RTX 3.0 Cavity Back 50* and 52* wedges
Nike Engage Toe Sweep 56* wedge
Directed Force  Reno 2.0 Putter 34"


Ball: who knows...
Swing: PPGS, a Surgite !!!

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