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#1 73monte

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 04:36 AM

Why doesn't JDM embrace adjustablility?  It seems like there's very few drivers from Japan that are adjustable. I personally wouldn't likely buy a driver that wasn't adjustable now.

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 07:00 AM

Some claim a preference for bonded in Japan.  No clue if this is bs or not.
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 07:26 AM

I think it's the same reason they spend twice as much on the same crappy performance. All about looks and perceptions.

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 07:32 AM

View PostLlortamaisey, on 29 June 2017 - 07:26 AM, said:

I think it's the same reason they spend twice as much on the same crappy performance. All about looks and perceptions.

Well... that's a nice general sweeping statement... bravo!
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 07:44 AM

Adjustability is only beneficial if you know what you are doing or get fit for it. People also need to get out of their own ways.

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 11:29 AM

I believe the reason is weight added to the hosel adapter takes away weight that could be placed elsewhere on the head to improve performance.

Also there's the Japanese way of thinking that adjustability takes away precision which they embrace in most every piece of equipment

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 12:21 PM

View Post95124hacker, on 29 June 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

I believe the reason is weight added to the hosel adapter takes away weight that could be placed elsewhere on the head to improve performance.

Also there's the Japanese way of thinking that adjustability takes away precision which they embrace in most every piece of equipment

+1, but I do like to have the ability to change shafts etc......
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:26 PM

I agree.

I prefer glued in.

I have yet to see the need to adjust a driver, especially one you like.............once you've been dialed in correctly what's the point anyway. That even goes for screw in weights- lead tape is easier.

Besides a lot of the JDM OEMs make differing face angles.

It's just as easy use a heat gun than to try to find the right shaft with the correct adapter, especially from Japan.
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:59 PM

View PostLionGolfer, on 29 June 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

Some claim a preference for bonded in Japan.  No clue if this is bs or not.

It's not just Japan. I like bonded drivers too, but I play 0* face angle so it doesn't really matter.

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 12:42 PM

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 03:01 PM

Like your driver choices.

The old 400cc r7 Quad was a beast. The i15 IMO is one of the best drivers ever made. I always have one of mine in my second cart bag. The Rapture was silly long with the surlyn ball.

I've just put together a JBeam ZY-11 with a Basileus Alpha shaft and it is a great combination. Solid, long and easy to hit. And glued in!!!

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:49 PM

I have a mint ZY-11 I've been trying to sell, it's a shame more people don't know how excellent this head is
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Posted 10 July 2017 - 10:11 PM

The question for me is "what percentage of golfers get fitted in Japan vs elsewhere".  If everyone gets fitted vs few in the rest of the world, the "set it and forget it" approach means more time thinking swing and less questioning settings.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:34 AM

View Postshuddleston, on 10 July 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

I have a mint ZY-11 I've been trying to sell, it's a shame more people don't know how excellent this head is
How much?

View Postshuddleston, on 10 July 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

I have a mint ZY-11 I've been trying to sell, it's a shame more people don't know how excellent this head is
And sorry, what are the specs as well?

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:22 PM

Jump on that Z-11. Very long, solid and low spinning.

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 08:01 AM

View Post73monte, on 29 June 2017 - 04:36 AM, said:

Why doesn't JDM embrace adjustablility?  It seems like there's very few drivers from Japan that are adjustable. I personally wouldn't likely buy a driver that wasn't adjustable now.

They do.  I have Srixon Z545 JDM driver which is adjustable  and has 2 weight ports!
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Posted 01 August 2017 - 09:29 AM

View Posttheshadow1971, on 01 August 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

View Post73monte, on 29 June 2017 - 04:36 AM, said:

Why doesn't JDM embrace adjustablility?  It seems like there's very few drivers from Japan that are adjustable. I personally wouldn't likely buy a driver that wasn't adjustable now.

They do.  I have Srixon Z545 JDM driver which is adjustable  and has 2 weight ports!

I don't think the Z545 is JDM as it's available worldwide.
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Posted 01 August 2017 - 01:06 PM

View Postian-500, on 01 August 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:

View Posttheshadow1971, on 01 August 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

View Post73monte, on 29 June 2017 - 04:36 AM, said:

Why doesn't JDM embrace adjustablility?  It seems like there's very few drivers from Japan that are adjustable. I personally wouldn't likely buy a driver that wasn't adjustable now.

They do.  I have Srixon Z545 JDM driver which is adjustable  and has 2 weight ports!

I don't think the Z545 is JDM as it's available worldwide.

Z545 with single weight port was available predominately outside of Japan.  Z545 adjustable with 2 weight ports with Srixon RX shafts were available for Japan and therefore the Asian Markets.

Srixon Z545/745/945 Irons sold in Japan and therefore Asia the specifications has slight  variations to those that were different Nth America & Europe. Shorter shafts and less Swing weight.

Current Z765 irons In japan/Asia - typical stock shaft option NS Pro 980 GH DST - not available for the rest of the world.
The range of stock shafts options for Japan/Asia  are typically 1/4" shorter than the rest of the world.  Asian/Japan specs swing weight D2 compared to D3 for the rest of the world! Some variations in lie angle too!

Or current Z765 Driver in Japan/Asia 2 options available, 1 adjustable shaft with Single weight port, 2nd fixed shaft 2 weight ports (not available for the rest of world)

Edited by theshadow1971, 01 August 2017 - 01:07 PM.

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 03:47 PM

I must admit, I've never seen a Z545 driver with a single weight port. The Z745 (or JDM Z945) yes but not the Z545. I'll stick with the Z545 driver being not JDM.
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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:09 AM

View Postian-500, on 02 August 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

I must admit, I've never seen a Z545 driver with a single weight port. The Z745 (or JDM Z945) yes but not the Z545. I'll stick with the Z545 driver being not JDM.

Ultimately regardless if we are both playing a JDM or US version of the Z545, if it delivers on the distances on fairway that matters the most!

I think something being called JDM is a misnomer these days and more aptly should be called an Asian Spec/Version.  Im lucky enough to live in Asia and given my build
physic etc Asian specs are more suitable for me.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 02:19 AM

I've always thought that adjustable drivers suit the manufacturers and retailers more than the customers. Now they only have to produce/keep in stock one model whereas before they needed several combinations.
For users they should adjust once and leave it in those positions - in which case why not just buy one or have one built to your specs in the first case

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 09:20 AM

People have been brainwashed when it comes to adjustability. I've even seen people go "I hit that driver great, got great distance and dispersion. Too bad it's not adjustable"...?! I mean, whaaat?

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