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#1 xreyuk

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:11 PM

I'm looking at buying a new set of irons in the near future, probably the Titleist AP2.

Do you guys think the PW & GW/AW included with the iron sets are okay, or do you prefer to go to 9i and purchase a separate PW & GW/AW?

If you chose a separate one, why did you?

Thanks.

Edited by xreyuk, 18 June 2017 - 07:14 PM.

Looking at new clubs, will update shortly!

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:50 PM

I like playing the PW that matches my irons mostly for looks and because I hardly ever use it around the green. But past the PW I prefer separate wedges (GW,SW,LW) because I like blade type wedges and the ability to be able to choose the bounce of the club.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:53 PM

With set for sure. It's the gap wedge that's either or for me. Pw is std in a set and you'd expect it for gapping putposes
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:55 PM

I get too much spin with the PW bought separately so it winds up going shorter than I want. Don't know if that's just me or everyone experiences that, but it's why I like the PW from the set and start my wedges at the gap wedge.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:02 PM

View PostThrillhouse, on 18 June 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

I get too much spin with the PW bought separately so it winds up going shorter than I want. Don't know if that's just me or everyone experiences that, but it's why I like the PW from the set and start my wedges at the gap wedge.
that being said you could go to a stronger lofted PW in that case?  my next set I will be going with the a PW that matches my wedges as I feel that I can control wedges better on partial swings which would leave me more options when approaching a green.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:27 PM

Assuming you are taking full swings with your PW, then the set PW makes more sense.  It tends to be the gap wedge that people choose between set and specialty wedge.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:28 PM

Just ordered a new set of irons and for the first time I am going for a specialist wedge.
Thought it would be worth a try and give more versatility, never really used a PW for anything other than full shots, I think going over to a 47 degree specialist wedge will give me more confidence around the green to be a little more imaginative.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:28 PM

View PostFirePro, on 18 June 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostThrillhouse, on 18 June 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

I get too much spin with the PW bought separately so it winds up going shorter than I want. Don't know if that's just me or everyone experiences that, but it's why I like the PW from the set and start my wedges at the gap wedge.
that being said you could go to a stronger lofted PW in that case?  my next set I will be going with the a PW that matches my wedges as I feel that I can control wedges better on partial swings which would leave me more options when approaching a green.

I've considered that as I like the wedge style PW, just never tried it.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:05 PM

I really like set wedges.  Gapping isn't an issue and there are less wedge options around the green to worry about and execute.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:49 PM

I have the AP2's, and replaced the set wedge with a 46 degree Vokey. The weighting of the AP2 wedge hit the ball straight up in the air. More control with the Vokey, and I complete my set with a 50, 54, and 60 degree. Good luck!

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:13 AM

I choose set PW and go with specialty for the remaining 3, the PW is for full shot so should look like the rest of its iron siblings.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 12:00 PM

I tried using a specialty PW (46* Mack Daddy), but it just didn't work out gap wise.  I went back to the set PW and now have a Ping 50* for my approach wedge, Mack Daddy 54* for my sand wedge, and a Mack Daddy 58* for my lob wedge.  I honestly don't use the 58* that much and will sometimes just leave it out.  I find that by opening the 54* I can lob the ball in those special situations where I need to.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 12:06 PM

View PostDakeys06, on 18 June 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

I like playing the PW that matches my irons mostly for looks and because I hardly ever use it around the green. But past the PW I prefer separate wedges (GW,SW,LW) because I like blade type wedges and the ability to be able to choose the bounce of the club.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:03 PM

Thanks guys

I play mainly full shots with the PW or chip and runs.

How do people find hitting full shots with specialist wedges?
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:12 PM

View Postxreyuk, on 19 June 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

Thanks guys

I play mainly full shots with the PW or chip and runs.

How do people find hitting full shots with specialist wedges?

I'm usually shorter with specialty gap/pitching wedges on full shots.  I use my PW and GW for full shots mainly and usually play them to match my irons.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:19 PM

It's interesting to me that you posted this inquiry, as I was just researching the difference earlier today.  Here's an article that I found helpful:
http://www.golfalot....wedge-3622.aspx

Basically, it confirms some of the information that you've already read here in the thread; the set PW tends to work well for those who are primarily going to be hitting full shots, as the gapping tends to be easier to maintain through the set, and can often help with maintaining consistency.  However, the set PW tends to fly a bit more shallow than a "specialty" wedge, and thus will tend to have a bit more rollout, and be less workable than the Specialty wedge.

At this point, I've elected to keep the set PW in my bag (I really love that forged blade, too), and will continue to use the 52, 56, and 60 for my primary precision clubs around the green.  Please keep me updated on your personal experience, as I think this is something that I'd like to re-evaluate as my game continues to progress.

View Postxreyuk, on 19 June 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

Thanks guys I play mainly full shots with the PW or chip and runs. How do people find hitting full shots with specialist wedges?

I feel that my full shots with the Specialist Wedges is great!  They can really get things dialed in (so long as I can keep a consistent swing, but that was completely overhauled during the offseason).

Edited by BishopBreaking80, 19 June 2017 - 03:21 PM.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:02 PM

i went with a custom 48 wedge as opposed to my sets 46 degree.  this allows me to not have a gap wedge and play both a 3 iron and a 5 wood (since i have a 54 and 58).  i cut about 4-8 yards off my full swing, and the versatility around the greens is great.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:12 PM

I prefer the pw and gw from set, for full shots but also for basic chips and pitches, because they are more predictable.
I use one specialty wedge for sand, rough or flops.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:30 PM

My 46* Vokey F grind is my favorite club in the bag.

So much more versatile and creates alot more spin (which is a good thing for me) than my previous set PW.

I play dr, 3w, 5w, 3-9 iron with 46* 54* & 60* all wedges are sm6 vokeys. Love this set up.

Edited by Fairways to Heaven, 19 June 2017 - 05:37 PM.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:54 PM

View Postxreyuk, on 19 June 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

Thanks guys

I play mainly full shots with the PW or chip and runs.

How do people find hitting full shots with specialist wedges?
Yes no problem at all. Plus when you do want to play 3/4 or 1/2 shots you should have more spin/ stop on the greens.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:13 PM

PW from the set for sure, and usually also the GW/AW. I then carry two additional wedges beyond that.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:53 PM

PW & AW from set used mostly full swing occasional chip with the PW.

Specialty wedges for the other 3 more lofted wedges

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:39 PM

I have always gone with the matching pw and separate wedges for the gw, sw and lw.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:02 AM

Went with an Engage 50 to replace the 49 degree PW from my set. No real gapping issues, as I'd rather hit a controlled 9 iron than a full wedge, but get more spin with the Engage when I do.

The Engage is also far more versatile than the set PW around the greens.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:25 AM

have both in-the-set and an individual PW, in exact same L/L/L. Callaway X-Forged '10 set with PX 6.0 Flighted and Scratch 8620 with DG S300 TI. the in-the-set PW has conforming grooves, Scratch doesn't. in my game, i use PW for 120 - 140ish  yd range and occasional 'pitching' on tight fairways near green. funny i see no noticeable difference 'at all' in distance, feeling, spin or whatsoever. etc. so i carry the Scratch one since it looks cooler—PVD black + skull stamping!

what i'm trying to say here is that not sure if we wknd golfers' games are that 1. sensible (or sensitive) and 2. stable & consistent (and 3. the courses we play) to be able to distinguish such delicate differences. it might be more mental, IMHO. what pleases me with either look or feel gets in the bag. wknds are short.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 04:10 PM

Do you use a PW like a wedge or more like a 10 iron?

I use mine like a 10iron so I match it to the set.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 04:40 PM

I have Srixon 765 thru the 9 and Mizuno blue ion T7s 45/50/55/61.  Works for me.

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