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#31 MPStrat

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:33 PM

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

View PostMPStrat, on 18 June 2017 - 09:26 PM, said:

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

View PostMPStrat, on 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostEzgolfer, on 18 June 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

And Rahm is no flexible ballerina either like DJ

Rahm's grip is super weak. If his grip was neutral like DJ and the face was that shut at the top, he would need the flexibility
So you are saying grip conditions have a direct impact on body rotation?

Yes, to be more specific the grips effect on the club face angle does.
So then what is so weird?

What do you mean?


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:35 PM

I think the reason some players suffer back issues is because of the "x factor". I am not sure the back is meant to handle that much "torque" or twisting. If that is the case then those who use the "x factor" will probably find that their playing careers won't have the longevity previous generation players enjoyed.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:35 PM

You are quick on the delete.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:40 PM

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:35 PM, said:

You are quick on the delete.

I posted the same exact thing as Monte lol. I figured he had it covered

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:32 PM

Can add bomber Justin Thomas's swing to the list also..........on page 59 of the July Golf Mag he states his belt buckle hasnt moved even though he is halfway back with upper body rotating......


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:43 PM

View PostSean2, on 18 June 2017 - 09:35 PM, said:

I think the reason some players suffer back issues is because of the "x factor". I am not sure the back is meant to handle that much "torque" or twisting. If that is the case then those who use the "x factor" will probably find that their playing careers won't have the longevity previous generation players enjoyed.

x stretch in transition not x factor backswing..
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:30 PM

Don't trust the swing of a man who has two last names.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:51 AM

If Fleetwood won we'd all have to stop going to the barber shop.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:27 AM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 18 June 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

View PostThrillhouse, on 18 June 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

View Postarydolphin, on 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

So what are things that us mere mortals can take from Koepka's swing that could be applied to our games as opposed to restricting hips?

He hits it hard and out of the middle and matches face to path really well.

If you do that you're golden!

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You can't take individual parts of a great player's swing.  He matches his parts and makes it work.  Anyone who tried to emulate that backswing and/or impact position is going to accrue visits the the chiro and ortho.

What amateur golfers can learn from pro swings is taking 10 random ones and seeing what they have in common...and possibly emulate one of those things...if it in fact matches what you do.

I don't know why this thinking doesn't get emphasized more. Koepka's swing works for Brooks and no one else. Yes, you can surely identify some good fundamentals but even basic elements of a proper swing will have a range of variability that will be particular to that player: their size, body shape/proportions, strength, flexibility, balance, proprioception, athleticism will all influence the swing.

Excellent comment.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:38 AM

My prediction is that in the future it's going to be one season and done for these guys on tour. There will be 9000 yard courses and the players will play one season because of injuries to hit the 450 yard drives...on 100 yd wide fairways....

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:52 AM

well we're all gonna need some magic move or gimmick or technology to help us drive it at least 320 yds so we can play on all these 'modern courses'... geez
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:54 AM

not to mention we all better be in the gym before our rounds bench pressing and power cleaning enough weight to make us puke
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:00 AM

It's hard to believe pro's can fly a 3 wood off the deck 300 nowadays.  Impressive .. and it seems it is every baller under 25 nowadays .. 120+ swing speed is the norm now

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:15 AM

Jack Nicklaus influenced a whole generation of golfers including top players at the time like Watson, Weiskopf, Miller and more with his knee slide and reverse C. Flash forward, some of Tiger's idiosyncrasies are becoming ingrained in players as well.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:25 PM

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:26 PM

View PostMPStrat, on 18 June 2017 - 08:38 PM, said:

Luckily restricting the hip turn has fallen out of fashion with the pop instructors. Harmons are one of the few that still openly encourage restricting the hips
How do you know that he's been actively encouraged to restrict his hips? If you look at his takeaway and how underrotated and outside his hands the club gets early..., there's no way he'd have the feel of the club staying out in front of him if his trail hip got deep.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:39 PM

View PostPutterKilledTheDream, on 19 June 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

View PostMPStrat, on 18 June 2017 - 08:38 PM, said:

Luckily restricting the hip turn has fallen out of fashion with the pop instructors. Harmons are one of the few that still openly encourage restricting the hips
How do you know that he's been actively encouraged to restrict his hips? If you look at his takeaway and how underrotated and outside his hands the club gets early..., there's no way he'd have the feel of the club staying out in front of him if his trail hip got deep.

I have no idea what BK was/is being taught, but they preach minimal hip turn. They tried to get Phil to do it for a long time. It's mentioned on Butch's DVD. Same with DJ. there was drama on social media when it was brought to light last year.

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