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#1 MonteScheinblum

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:45 PM

First, let me say I am a huge fan of DJ and his game.
I have talked with Brooks before.  He is a great dude and I will be thrilled when he closes this out.  Great power move, great short game for a bomber.

The countdown to backswing hip turn restriction for power has begun.  In addition, it's only a matter of time before someone says,  "Look at these two moves from the last 2 US Open champions.  Two of the longest and straightest on the tour.  Imagine the power you will create if you bow your left wrist like DJ at the top and restrict your hip turn like BK. Now you're taking advantage of the two power moves of the last 2 champions."


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:53 PM

No doubt.

They both have world class struts too.  Probably help this 6 cap just as much to master that strut. Maybe more. Need a drill. Pressure traces would help.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:13 PM

The "X Factor" rebirth!!

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#4 MonteScheinblum

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:35 PM

View PostKtrain, on 18 June 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

The "X Factor" rebirth!!

More like afterbirth.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:48 PM

Tune in to tomorrow's golf fix for more lol.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:49 PM

You cannot take away from the bowed left wrist

DJ, Rahm,Berger , Koepka

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:59 PM

View PostEzgolfer, on 18 June 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

You cannot take away from the bowed left wrist

DJ, Rahm,Berger , Koepka

Thank you for missing the point.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:14 PM

And Rahm is no flexible ballerina either like DJ

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:22 PM

View PostThrillhouse, on 18 June 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

Tune in to tomorrow's golf fix for more lol.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:23 PM

Great. Just when I get used to my single length irons...

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:23 PM

View Posttrapsmv15, on 18 June 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostThrillhouse, on 18 June 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

Tune in to tomorrow's golf fix for more lol.
"Come in, and Kill It Like Koepka!
LETS DO THIS"

......*gag*

I feel like we're gonna have the same credit card in the glove drill we had last year when DJ won lol.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:26 PM

View PostScratchyDawg, on 18 June 2017 - 08:23 PM, said:

Great. Just when I get used to my single length irons...

Well played...you get it sir :-)
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:34 PM

Did Chamblee cover this on the post-round show or did he just say that BK's longevity is in question due to too much lifting and not lifting the lead heel ?

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:38 PM

Luckily restricting the hip turn has fallen out of fashion with the pop instructors. Harmons are one of the few that still openly encourage restricting the hips

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM

View PostEzgolfer, on 18 June 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

And Rahm is no flexible ballerina either like DJ

Rahm's grip is super weak. If his grip was neutral like DJ and the face was that shut at the top, he would need the flexibility


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM

So what are things that us mere mortals can take from Koepka's swing that could be applied to our games as opposed to restricting hips?

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:45 PM

View Postarydolphin, on 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

So what are things that us mere mortals can take from Koepka's swing that could be applied to our games as opposed to restricting hips?

He hits it hard and out of the middle and matches face to path really well.

If you do that you're golden!

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:01 PM

View PostMPStrat, on 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostEzgolfer, on 18 June 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

And Rahm is no flexible ballerina either like DJ

Rahm's grip is super weak. If his grip was neutral like DJ and the face was that shut at the top, he would need the flexibility
So you are saying grip conditions have a direct impact on body rotation?

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:03 PM

View PostThrillhouse, on 18 June 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

View Postarydolphin, on 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

So what are things that us mere mortals can take from Koepka's swing that could be applied to our games as opposed to restricting hips?

He hits it hard and out of the middle and matches face to path really well.

If you do that you're golden!

Word.

You can't take individual parts of a great player's swing.  He matches his parts and makes it work.  Anyone who tried to emulate that backswing and/or impact position is going to accrue visits the the chiro and ortho.

What amateur golfers can learn from pro swings is taking 10 random ones and seeing what they have in common...and possibly emulate one of those things...if it in fact matches what you do.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:03 PM

If I actually attempt to bow my wrist like DJ, I get a flat wrist.  In a static position I can get my wrists to look like that, but not in an actual swing.  Dude is crazy flexible.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:06 PM

View PostSullGolf, on 18 June 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

If I actually attempt to bow my wrist like DJ, I get a flat wrist.  In a static position I can get my wrists to look like that, but not in an actual swing.  Dude is crazy flexible.

I bet the reason he gets there is once when he was a kid someone told him to flatten his wrist and that's just where it went to, he hit it good doing it and never changed it.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:10 PM

View PostSullGolf, on 18 June 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

If I actually attempt to bow my wrist like DJ, I get a flat wrist.  In a static position I can get my wrists to look like that, but not in an actual swing.  Dude is crazy flexible.

The irony is most tour players have a very slight cup at the top.  Most movements in the swing are easier to reverse in the downswing, versus maintain.

It's why you see most people who get really inside going back, get OTT.  

People who tilt toward the target, reverse the tilt.

Cup to bow.

Wide to narrow.

Narrow to wide.

Super slow backswing to fast transition.

Too much torso/spine extension to too much squat.

Not enough torso/spine extension to EE.

Body's natural reaction is to reverse what you give it.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:11 PM

View PostThrillhouse, on 18 June 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

View PostSullGolf, on 18 June 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

If I actually attempt to bow my wrist like DJ, I get a flat wrist.  In a static position I can get my wrists to look like that, but not in an actual swing.  Dude is crazy flexible.

I bet the reason he gets there is once when he was a kid someone told him to flatten his wrist and that's just where it went to, he hit it good doing it and never changed it.

Nearly certain something like that happened.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:18 PM

Weak grip=big turn back (hips and all), not much 'x-factor' on down swing, arms release, higher rate of closure.

Strong grip=smaller turn (especially hips), hips clear, bigger x-factor, lower rate of closer.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:19 PM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 18 June 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

View PostEzgolfer, on 18 June 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

You cannot take away from the bowed left wrist

DJ, Rahm,Berger , Koepka

Thank you for missing the point.
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#26 MonteScheinblum

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:22 PM

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

Weak grip=big turn back (hips and all), not much 'x-factor' on down swing, arms release, higher rate of closure.

Strong grip=smaller turn (especially hips), hips clear, bigger x-factor, lower rate of closer.

Not a single 1 to 1 correlation in either of those.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:25 PM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 18 June 2017 - 09:22 PM, said:

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

Weak grip=big turn back (hips and all), not much 'x-factor' on down swing, arms release, higher rate of closure.

Strong grip=smaller turn (especially hips), hips clear, bigger x-factor, lower rate of closer.

Not a single 1 to 1 correlation in either of those.
Of course there are variables, many variables.  But a very simplified baseline?  I think it might be.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:26 PM

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

View PostMPStrat, on 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostEzgolfer, on 18 June 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

And Rahm is no flexible ballerina either like DJ

Rahm's grip is super weak. If his grip was neutral like DJ and the face was that shut at the top, he would need the flexibility
So you are saying grip conditions have a direct impact on body rotation?

Yes, to be more specific the grips effect on the club face angle does.

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#29 MonteScheinblum

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:27 PM

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 18 June 2017 - 09:22 PM, said:

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

Weak grip=big turn back (hips and all), not much 'x-factor' on down swing, arms release, higher rate of closure.

Strong grip=smaller turn (especially hips), hips clear, bigger x-factor, lower rate of closer.

Not a single 1 to 1 correlation in either of those.
Of course there are variables, many variables.  But a very simplified baseline?  I think it might be.

It's not.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:30 PM

View PostMPStrat, on 18 June 2017 - 09:26 PM, said:

View Postpowerpushfade, on 18 June 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

View PostMPStrat, on 18 June 2017 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostEzgolfer, on 18 June 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

And Rahm is no flexible ballerina either like DJ

Rahm's grip is super weak. If his grip was neutral like DJ and the face was that shut at the top, he would need the flexibility
So you are saying grip conditions have a direct impact on body rotation?

Yes, to be more specific the grips effect on the club face angle does.
So then what is so weird?


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