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shortened my swing for everything and great results, why?


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#1 PerseveringGolf

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:03 PM

For the last 4 months I have worked on a proper shoulder turn (back facing target, left shoulder feeling like its over my right foot) then firing the left hip 'left and back' while trying to keep the shoulders returning on the same plane (i.e right shoulder down and left up).......

..results are great shot then 3 poor ones, then occasional thins, push fades and pull hooks..........

so today I shortened my swing to about hands reaching shoulder height then I start down and the strikes are pure, solid feeling and go where I am aiming with no loss of any distance. It 'feels' like a half swing but looks 3/4.

By doing this am I getting things in sync accidently that were out of sync with the longer backswing and bigger turn etc?

This was at the range, I cant wait to try the course as the bad shots (described above) are costing me big time in scoring.


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#2 PuttingIsNotGolf

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:24 PM

Probably because you aren't coordinated enough for a longer swing

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:26 PM

Because feel isn't real!!!

Shortening the swing fixes a lot of different problems, I would imagine it will be hard to get feedback without video of the swing. In my case I ended up going to Monte for my first lesson and he showed me how badly I was overrunning with my arms (ie shoulders would turn, stop turning, and my arms broke down and wrapped around me making me think i was getting a good full turn). The fix was to shorten it to a half swing and on video it did actually end up being a 3/4 swing.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:26 PM

View PostPuttingIsNotGolf, on 18 June 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

Probably because you aren't coordinated enough for a longer swing

Or, flexible enough.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:27 PM

View PostPuttingIsNotGolf, on 18 June 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

Probably because you aren't coordinated enough for a longer swing

horse s***!

Take enough mechanical flaws out of the equation and anyone has a good shot at keeping the ball in play.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:28 PM

Big shoulder turn + short arm swing + lots of width = pure ball striking

I work on it all the time, it's a huge key of mine. Gotta have all the components though, you can't just lift your arms without turning and slap at it, that's no bueno.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:51 PM

Like the others have said, odds are you're doing everything in sync and you are most likely swinging it at what should really be a "full" swing.

When I started playing golf a few years ago, I thought you needed the biggest wind up possible to hit the ball. No surprise that my stock shot was a banana slice. I finally went for a few lessons, and the pro had me swing like my hands were only going just above my waist on the backswing. I started hitting some great shots, and he showed me video of my "barely half swing" that was indeed a full swing.

Shorter swing for me, and for a lot of others, equals better body turn, less sway, and hitting the ball more in the center of the face.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:08 PM

If I had to guess your body and arms were out of sync with the "full" swing and caused your issues.  Only way to know would be to get your old swing on video and compare to your new swing.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:21 PM

Like the Indian Chiefs used to say about the rain dance: "It's all in the timing".

Shorter swing [for you] is keeping everything in sync. And that's a wonderful thing.

Edited by p3ga, 18 June 2017 - 08:21 PM.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:37 PM

As someone else has indicated it also may well be the case that what felt to you like a full swing was actually a swing going past the point where the shaft was approximately parallel to the ground which can cause any number of swing issues. By feeling like you are stopping short of a full swing you still may be very close to 3/4 to a full swing without knowing it. It would be interesting for you to duplicate what you were doing at the range and video tape it and see how far back you are actually going.


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#11 PerseveringGolf

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:56 AM

Thanks guys for the input and affirmation.

As someone noted in an effort to get a full swing my arms and torso etc are becoming disconnected, I think. I certainly am fit enough for a full swing, I can even do a John Daly overswing for a laugh sometimes but imitating Lee Trevinos swing gives great results and thats only a mid to 3/4 swing.

Now to try it, and trust it, on the course as it feels like I'm starting down WAY before the backswing is complete.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:38 AM

View PostPerseveringGolf, on 19 June 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

Now to try it, and trust it, on the course as it feels like I'm starting down WAY before the backswing is complete.

I have done something similar this year (shortening my swing but struggling to take it to the course) and I'm finding that it's hard to ingrain a "shorter" swing. I have found that focusing more on my feet and balance helps to keep it more reliable. Instead of a point in the backswing that my club reaches triggering the transition, I'm using the feeling of pressure, particularly in the instep of my right foot to gauge when to stop turning. If things stay balanced and I'm keeping the club wide, I find the downswing elements tend to take care of themselves a lot better.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 12:40 PM

View PostThrillhouse, on 18 June 2017 - 01:28 PM, said:

Big shoulder turn + short arm swing + lots of width = pure ball striking

I work on it all the time, it's a huge key of mine. Gotta have all the components though, you can't just lift your arms without turning and slap at it, that's no bueno.
I've basically had a short arm swing my entire life similar to Jon Rahm (minus the bowed wrist) and I agree with you that it's a great way to swing as it eliminates a lot of the excess motion, but like you said, as soon as you stop turning you're in deep doodoo.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:22 PM

Feel isn't real.... going to have to approve of that one. The more I look at my swing the more I recognize that what I think I am doing and what I really am doing are two different things.

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