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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:42 PM

Johnny Miller looks,
Down Erin Hills fairways and
Says, fake U.S. Open.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:44 PM

Not that Thomas was close or anything this time, but it's crazy there's 31 rounds of 63 but no rounds of 62. Been 5 63s in the last 2 years though, so does seem like it's coming.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:48 PM

Erin Hills  is no Oakmont, todays scores say it all.
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:51 PM

View PostVindog, on 17 June 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Johnny laughs at the Four Winds.
Laughs from his mountain

awesome!  Crush your enemies!

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:06 PM

I guess most people bitching and moaning about Erin Hills mostly repeat what some golf self-proclaimed gurus state. It's like the "back in the day" stories on this site. And I still remember that back in the day I played so well...


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:07 PM

There were 23 rounds under par today at Erin Hills. In the 73 US Open there were 22 rounds under par for the entire week. (counting only the scores of players who made the cut).  Johnny is right although maybe he should have let history come to that conclusion.   Erin Hills is no Oakmont. Not even close.  Erin Hill plays more like a tricked up TPC Summerlin. Justin Thomas played a great round under US Open pressure but if the USGA wanted a "real" US Open, they blew the setup.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:15 PM

Don't get the hate for Miller.  I have never heard him speak of his 63 unless asked.  Urban legend.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:25 PM

Justin Thomas was 9.2 shots better than the field average for the day as compared to Miller's 10.8 shots better.  They are both remarkable, in fact Thomas' round was even better (by fractions) than his 59 earlier this season as compared to the field.

Neither of those quite compare to the 59 Jim Furyk shot in 2013 which was a staggering 12.1 shots better than the field average. Of course it wasn't at a major which probably does diminish it just a bit.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:28 PM

View Postdan360, on 17 June 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

Johnny Miller looks,
Down Erin Hills fairways and
Says, fake U.S. Open.

We need more of these :lol:

View Postupndowninthree, on 17 June 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

View PostVindog, on 17 June 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Johnny laughs at the Four Winds.
Laughs from his mountain

awesome!  Crush your enemies!

This is good!

Edited by Vindog, 17 June 2017 - 08:37 PM.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:34 PM

View Postyoudamantiger, on 17 June 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

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View Postghostrider, on 17 June 2017 - 07:12 PM, said:

And considering what the USGA did the next year at Winged Foot where Hale won with something like 7 over - anyone playing tomorrow might be in for some surprises.

I think the USGA will definitely be looking for some payback next year at Shinnecock but there's not a lot they can do for tomorrow. The course really handcuffs them. Not a lot you can do to Erin to trick it up. The fairways are just too wide and the fescue won't have time to grow in from where they cut it on Wednesday. About the only thing they can do is set the tees back as far as they'll go and tuck the pins. And that won't be enough. They'll need some help from Mother Nature.

If the USGA is smart, theyll set up the course to be as gettable as they can.

We've got record scoring and about 16 guys with a legit shot to win.  Dont muck it up now.  Let these guys put on a show.

These guys put on a show every week. I'd rather see how they handle penal conditions.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:36 PM

View Postmizuno player, on 17 June 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

Is Johnny going to laugh of Justin's 63 because it's not a "real" US Open course? Too many under par rounds to count. It's like a regular tour event.

I say yes. He did it with an incredible 2nd on 18.

Easy to predict when you've already seen his comments, but thread title dutifully misleading.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:38 PM

View PostHawkeye77, on 17 June 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

View Postmizuno player, on 17 June 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

Is Johnny going to laugh of Justin's 63 because it's not a "real" US Open course? Too many under par rounds to count. It's like a regular tour event.

I say yes. He did it with an incredible 2nd on 18.

Easy to predict when you've already seen his comments, but thread title dutifully misleading.

It always makes me wonder who will assume it's true because the title says so.
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:39 PM

View Postfarmer, on 17 June 2017 - 08:15 PM, said:

Don't get the hate for Miller.  I have never heard him speak of his 63 unless asked.  Urban legend.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:44 PM

Seems like the USGA is a little gun shy after the bad press they've received over the past few years. It's a shame. I don't want the U.S. Open to be indistinguishable from a regular PGA tour event.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:51 PM

View PostHawkeye77, on 17 June 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

View Postmizuno player, on 17 June 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

Is Johnny going to laugh of Justin's 63 because it's not a "real" US Open course? Too many under par rounds to count. It's like a regular tour event.

I say yes. He did it with an incredible 2nd on 18.

Easy to predict when you've already seen his comments, but thread title dutifully misleading.


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No, I didn't see anything. Johnny is just that predictable.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:54 PM

View PostBubb, on 17 June 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

Seems like the USGA is a little gun shy after the bad press they've received over the past few years. It's a shame. I don't want the U.S. Open to be indistinguishable from a regular PGA tour event.

Even the fescue is not 'real' fescue. It's 'wispy' - they called it so a few times. The fescue on my home course is thick and often you can't even see your ball when you are standing over it. It stops your club before impact.
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:13 PM

Typical comment from blowhard Miller. He should keep some opinions to himself. I can see where he is coming from and all things considered he is probably right. But the comment doesn't need to be made. Just my 2

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:16 PM

The golfers of today are better athletes. They are in better physical condition. The fields are deeper. The world is much smaller with modern day air travel. It is truly a global game at the highest level. There are more better players that train more and are the fields are much deeper.

Loved the old days, but it is a new era. That doesn't diminish Millers accomplishment or Thomas's accomplishment today. Both are remarkable.
Today's golf course was nearly 1,000 yards longer than Oakmont in 1973. Not saying it as hard as Oakmont, but that is worth noting.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:22 PM

Hideous leaderboard. Greens wide sideboards and backboards. 60 yard wide fairways. Not very fast greens. And rain.

US Open, my a$$. This tournament couldn't suck more.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:43 PM

View Postjohnnypro, on 17 June 2017 - 09:22 PM, said:

Not very fast greens.
What do you consider fast greens? Here are the USGA notes from their set up notes for Saturdays round.

http://mediacenter.usga.org/us-open

Scroll down to Saturday Course Set Up Notes.

The greens were at mid 13's after being triple cut and rolled after prep with green speeds settling to the upper 12's by afternoon.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:50 PM

Johnny Miller is pompous and talks down to people.  He's now lost his mighty record and we can hopefully move on to better commentary
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:51 PM

The greens are really fast but they are so well kept that they are still putting true. Usually the USGA kills the greens and makes them putt awful.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:53 PM

View PostHighgolfer07, on 17 June 2017 - 09:50 PM, said:

Johnny Miller is pompous and talks down to people.  He's now lost his mighty record and we can hopefully move on to better commentary

Thomas shoot 62?

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:59 PM

I love the set up. Great shots get great results, and poor shots get punished accordingly. You guys talking about how "easy" the course is, are you seeing the run offs on most of the greens? I also saw about a dozen or more pitches today roll right back to the player's feet.

This course is the definition of a second shot golf course.  That being said, I love that if you can't hit these generous fairways, you're dead. You armchair pros might think it's easy hitting these fairways, but imagine the thought on every hole that you can't bail out Left or right on every hole. I play mountain courses with generous fairways, but seeing dense trees lining both sides of the fairway makes it look dramatically more narrow.

I hope more US Open's play like this. Punishing, yet scores can be made if you execute the right shots. It's actually fun to watch. I'm a little biased though because I love the Open Championship, and Erin Hills is linksy.
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:09 PM

View PostHawkeye77, on 17 June 2017 - 09:53 PM, said:

View PostHighgolfer07, on 17 June 2017 - 09:50 PM, said:

Johnny Miller is pompous and talks down to people.  He's now lost his mighty record and we can hopefully move on to better commentary

Thomas shoot 62?

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:11 PM

View Postjacksonalex, on 17 June 2017 - 09:59 PM, said:

I love the set up. Great shots get great results, and poor shots get punished accordingly. You guys talking about how "easy" the course is, are you seeing the run offs on most of the greens? I also saw about a dozen or more pitches today roll right back to the player's feet.

This course is the definition of a second shot golf course.  That being said, I love that if you can't hit these generous fairways, you're dead. You armchair pros might think it's easy hitting these fairways, but imagine the thought on every hole that you can't bail out Left or right on every hole. I play mountain courses with generous fairways, but seeing dense trees lining both sides of the fairway makes it look dramatically more narrow.

I hope more US Open's play like this. Punishing, yet scores can be made if you execute the right shots. It's actually fun to watch. I'm a little biased though because I love the Open Championship, and Erin Hills is linksy.
I wonder how different the perception of the US Open would be if they set EH up at a par 70 and all things being equal 6 under was leading going into Sunday instead of 12 under? 8 out of the top 12 in the OWGR miss the cut and people somehow think it's easy. Triple bogies keep tripping up Paul Casey. I doubt he would say it's easy. The amount of rain the course has received and lack of wind has kept scores low which is overlooked by many.Happens from time to time at the Open Championship. Like last year when Henrik and Phil had their shootout and most didn't care how under par they were.

I'd imagine if Phil/Dustin/Rory/JD or Jordan were leading at -12 or in contention the perception would also be different. Rory won @ Congressional in 2011 on a rain soaked course with tons of people under par but since it was a big name winner it's viewed differently.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:20 PM

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011. There are currently five players at 10 under par or better through three rounds. But do tell me again how this course is super difficult.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:26 PM

View Postyoudamantiger, on 17 June 2017 - 10:20 PM, said:

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011. There are currently five players at 10 under par or better through three rounds. But do tell me again how this course is super difficult.
read the thread.  Course was set up based on normal wiscy winds and not being soft. If winds were up and not soft scores would be half of what they are now

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:29 PM

View Postyoudamantiger, on 17 June 2017 - 10:20 PM, said:

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011.
Gil Morgan in 1992 @ Pebble Beach in the third round was the first player to reach 10 under par in the US Open and got it to 12 under by the 7th hole. Then the wheels fell off for Gil finishing 77-81 in rounds 3 & 4.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:29 PM

View Posteebomb, on 17 June 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

View Postyoudamantiger, on 17 June 2017 - 10:20 PM, said:

Only two players in the first 116 US Opens ever reached 10 under par. Tiger in 2000 and Rory in 2011. There are currently five players at 10 under par or better through three rounds. But do tell me again how this course is super difficult.
read the thread.  Course was set up based on normal wiscy winds and not being soft. If winds were up and not soft scores would be half of what they are now

You chaps need to get on the same page. Half of you are arguing that Erin isn't easy at all and the other half are arguing that it's only easy because there's been no wind and it rained.


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