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Ben Hogan (& others) OTT from Inside


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#1 Switter

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 04:52 PM


Ben Hogan (& others) OTT from Inside:



Mike Malaska (Instruction) OTT from the Inside:


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 04:55 PM

Jim McLean has some good videos about this.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 05:00 PM

Prettiest swings ever?
Snead
Jones
DiVencenzo
Hogan

Hmmm...

Anyone who does this now?  Phil?
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 05:03 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 17 June 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

Prettiest swings ever?
Snead
Jones
DiVencenzo
Hogan

Hmmm...

Anyone who does this now?  Phil?

Lots of guys, gmac, Webb Simpson, de jonge, spencer levin, Brendan Steele, etc.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 05:06 PM

Seems it stops you from getting stuck. Tiger as an Am comes to mind. Butch got the club more in front of him then Foley totally jacked him up.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 05:11 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 17 June 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

Seems it stops you from getting stuck. Tiger as an Am comes to mind. Butch got the club more in front of him then Foley totally jacked him up.

Depends on what you mean by getting stuck TBH, mickelson does it and he gets stuck all the time, GMAC not so much. I think the guys who have the hand path out with the shaft laying down thing going on with it don't get stuck, they'll just wipe it when they miss it, but guys like Webb and mickelson who tip the shaft get narrow and steep and jammed up on the way down sometimes. I'd term that stuck, even if it's not the stuck inside thing people talk about.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 05:11 PM

If I remember correctly ??? but dont hold me to it, Monte sometime back mentioned OTT from the inside. Hopefully he'll chime in to this discussion and clarify.

Malaska -- What Should A Golf Swing Feel Like?:


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 06:44 PM

View PostSwitter, on 17 June 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

If I remember correctly ??? but dont hold me to it, Monte sometime back mentioned OTT from the inside. Hopefully he'll chime in to this discussion and clarify.

Malaska -- What Should A Golf Swing Feel Like?:



Lots of ways to skin the cat, but this guy is pretty far from Hogan, especially in managing the right arm in the DS.  Hogan had the club on his right forearm (EEP) and the clubhead INSIDE his hands until delivery (P6) ... no turning the steering wheel left until that point or standing the shaft up at P5.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:02 PM

View Postmoehogan, on 17 June 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

View PostSwitter, on 17 June 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

If I remember correctly ??? but dont hold me to it, Monte sometime back mentioned OTT from the inside. Hopefully he'll chime in to this discussion and clarify.

Malaska -- What Should A Golf Swing Feel Like?:



Lots of ways to skin the cat, but this guy is pretty far from Hogan, especially in managing the right arm in the DS.  Hogan had the club on his right forearm (EEP) and the clubhead INSIDE his hands until delivery (P6) ... no turning the steering wheel left until that point or standing the shaft up at P5.

True malaska really rides the shaft over the right forearm on his downswing.

I like what malaska teaches personally, but you're right, very different from hogan.

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:05 PM

This always reminds me of an article in Golf Illustrated, I think it was, in the late 90s-ish, in which Billy Harmon discussed what he called the 'in and over' swing. He cited Bruce Lietzche, Craig Parry, Craig Stadler, and older players, Snead, Boros, and Jones as those who swung in such a way.


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:26 AM

that is such complete utter nonsense about "downward force" and "weight".
20lbs!! noone could swing  it if it was true.
he seems to not know the difference between force and weight.
then to use that wrongness to support his silly thing makes it all snowflakes in Nevada.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 01:19 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 17 June 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

Prettiest swings ever?
Snead
Jones
DiVencenzo
Hogan

Hmmm...

Anyone who does this now?  Phil?
Hogan, yes....the others, not so much.

Add Tiger in his early Harmon days, Mickey Wright, and McIlroy

Honorable mention: Norman (Driver), Tom Watson (>50)

Edited by JD3, 22 June 2017 - 07:06 PM.

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