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Posted 09 November 2017 - 12:47 AM

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 06:41 PM

I hope the kid does well......and I hate to pee in the koolaide......but the body is not built to swing 130 mph and hit a golf ball 340+. Unfortunately this will not last long.
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Posted 12 November 2017 - 09:48 AM

View PostLacey Underall, on 11 November 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

I hope the kid does well......and I hate to pee in the koolaide......but the body is not built to swing 130 mph and hit a golf ball 340+. Unfortunately this will not last long.

That is just crazy talk...in 10-15 years we will have kids that have been training for speed “superspeed golf” since they were 5 years old. Wouldn’t surprise me is there are at least 5 guys on the pga tour with 130 mph swing speed by then.  Also more than likely during this time we will have advances in deceleration training as well that will
help with staying injury free longer.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 10:02 AM

Based on how far he hits it, this kid is pretty much guaranteed to win at least ten majors.
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Posted 12 November 2017 - 09:43 PM

View PostMrWolf, on 12 November 2017 - 10:02 AM, said:

Based on how far he hits it, this kid is pretty much guaranteed to win at least ten majors.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 12:18 AM

Missed the cut badly this weekend.  His game needs lots of work before he's successful on Tour but I really hope he makes it.  He's a great kid; very humble and tries to downplay all the hype.  He also gets down on himself quite easily, another thing he needs to get over.  If he gets his short game dialed in the way the DJ has, and refines his play around the greens, that distance will turn into a huge advantage for him....if.
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:07 AM

View PostJordan Speeth, on 13 November 2017 - 12:18 AM, said:

Missed the cut badly this weekend.  His game needs lots of work before he's successful on Tour but I really hope he makes it.  He's a great kid; very humble and tries to downplay all the hype.  He also gets down on himself quite easily, another thing he needs to get over.  If he gets his short game dialed in the way the DJ has, and refines his play around the greens, that distance will turn into a huge advantage for him....if.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 09:00 AM

View Postairjammer, on 12 November 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostLacey Underall, on 11 November 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

I hope the kid does well......and I hate to pee in the koolaide......but the body is not built to swing 130 mph and hit a golf ball 340+. Unfortunately this will not last long.

That is just crazy talk...in 10-15 years we will have kids that have been training for speed "superspeed golf" since they were 5 years old. Wouldn't surprise me is there are at least 5 guys on the pga tour with 130 mph swing speed by then.  Also more than likely during this time we will have advances in deceleration training as well that will
help with staying injury free longer.

Meanwhile, we have Day, McIlroy and Woods (and others) fighting back problems........

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 10:14 AM

View Postairjammer, on 12 November 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostLacey Underall, on 11 November 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

I hope the kid does well......and I hate to pee in the koolaide......but the body is not built to swing 130 mph and hit a golf ball 340+. Unfortunately this will not last long.

That is just crazy talk...in 10-15 years we will have kids that have been training for speed "superspeed golf" since they were 5 years old. Wouldn't surprise me is there are at least 5 guys on the pga tour with 130 mph swing speed by then.  Also more than likely during this time we will have advances in deceleration training as well that will
help with staying injury free longer.
I was a personal trainer and athletic performance coach for 8 years.  You can train for "superspeed" golf all you want.  The body can only take so much (especially as you age).  Now, he definitely could learn to gear down a bit for 90% of his swings and then only unleash that 130mph when he really needs it 3-4 times per round.  That seems to be what Jason Day is trying to do now.  Anyway, he's young and a work in progress.  Will be fun to watch and I hope he does well.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:26 AM

When Cameron Champ eventually makes it to the big show, I think people will be spending a lot more time talking about his golf swing.  I've never seen anyone hit it this long seemingly without swinging that hard at it.  It looks like he's going at it 75% at best.  It's totally smooth and in control, but talk about a freakish release.  I took a V1 video of his driver swing at the Walker Cup practice tee and I watch it over and over because it's so hard to believe that he can make this pass look so casual while hitting these 300 yard bullets.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 01:12 PM

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View Postairjammer, on 12 November 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

View PostLacey Underall, on 11 November 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

I hope the kid does well......and I hate to pee in the koolaide......but the body is not built to swing 130 mph and hit a golf ball 340+. Unfortunately this will not last long.

That is just crazy talk...in 10-15 years we will have kids that have been training for speed "superspeed golf" since they were 5 years old. Wouldn't surprise me is there are at least 5 guys on the pga tour with 130 mph swing speed by then.  Also more than likely during this time we will have advances in deceleration training as well that will
help with staying injury free longer.

Meanwhile, we have Day, McIlroy and Woods (and others) fighting back problems........

Same could be say for thousands of recreational golfers that never swung over 95. In any other sport people say that athletes wear out their bodies because of how much they do X.  I never heard anyone say the athlete hurt his  knees because nobody should jump over 40 inches high.  So why are golfers different?

Anyone who hits as many balls as these guys need to hit to get onto the pga tour will have problems at some point.  Obviously higher swing speed creates more torque on the body than slower swing speed. But as times goes by and kids are training specifically for speed the body will produce different muscle fibers to support that. Time will tell but athletes are running faster, jumping higher and throwing faster every single generation.



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 09:54 AM

View PostJordan Speeth, on 16 November 2017 - 11:26 AM, said:

When Cameron Champ eventually makes it to the big show, I think people will be spending a lot more time talking about his golf swing.  I've never seen anyone hit it this long seemingly without swinging that hard at it.  It looks like he's going at it 75% at best.  It's totally smooth and in control, but talk about a freakish release.  I took a V1 video of his driver swing at the Walker Cup practice tee and I watch it over and over because it's so hard to believe that he can make this pass look so casual while hitting these 300 yard bullets.

I would be interested in seeing the video. I'm a big fan of Champ and there (unfortunately) isn't a lot of high-quality video floating around of his driver swing.
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:52 PM

View PostDON SVO, on 17 November 2017 - 09:54 AM, said:

View PostJordan Speeth, on 16 November 2017 - 11:26 AM, said:

When Cameron Champ eventually makes it to the big show, I think people will be spending a lot more time talking about his golf swing.  I've never seen anyone hit it this long seemingly without swinging that hard at it.  It looks like he's going at it 75% at best.  It's totally smooth and in control, but talk about a freakish release.  I took a V1 video of his driver swing at the Walker Cup practice tee and I watch it over and over because it's so hard to believe that he can make this pass look so casual while hitting these 300 yard bullets.

I would be interested in seeing the video. I'm a big fan of Champ and there (unfortunately) isn't a lot of high-quality video floating around of his driver swing.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:57 PM

He's in the first Web.com tournament of the year in the Bahamas and has posted 69-73 to start the year. He's currently six back at -2 and it looks like he's about to pick up his first check as a pro.
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Posted 15 January 2018 - 03:42 AM

Nice! Rooting for him.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:40 PM

I hope he has a successful career.  It seems his family is a good foundation for him to build success on and off the golf course.  

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:05 PM

T21 in his first Web.com start last week. Starts with a credible -3/ 69 in the first round today.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:46 PM

Time to bump this thread. CC has had a solid season to date on the Web.com as he is currently 27th on the money list.
He shot 61 (-10) today in the first round of the Utah Championship. Pretty good numbers today. He is almost WRX long. :taunt:


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:09 PM

Surely the 423 average has to be off by a bit? His game looks much sharper as of recent.
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:10 PM

I was watching the Web Tournament a couple of weeks ago & Champ has a stinger that he crushes with his driver that is a freankin' fairway finding weapon of mass destruction....straight & freakin long ....season stats before this week:  337.3 drives....69.96% fairways....  74.69% greens.... just wow!

he's a Sean Foley pupil so I don't know what to think about that....but that swing looks very solid & he doesn't swing out of his shoes so hopefully he'll stay healthy


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:14 PM

View PostOutlier10, on 12 July 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

Surely the 423 average has to be off by a bit? His game looks much sharper as of recent.
Not really. He is insanely long to start with. Couple that with playing at 4,000+ feet in elevation and 94*  temperatures and you can get silly numbers. The course is made for bombers. His two measured tee shots were 421 and 425. He is averaging 337 off the tee for the year. His card early in the round showed his first measured tee shot at 421. He has a couple of other tee shots this year 400 plus.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:50 PM

I was there today to witness his full round. It was pretty amazing to not only see 400+ yard bombs but the rest of his game. He had 3 eagle putts lip out and end up getting birdie! 3!!!

I even got a slo mo video of his longest drive of the day. Ball ended up right by the 100 yard marker. Fun talent to watch and hoping he is in the mix on Sunday when I go back.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 02:11 AM

View PostOutlier10, on 12 July 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

Surely the 423 average has to be off by a bit? His game looks much sharper as of recent.

Its played at elevation and there are monster drives every year there so its legit

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:02 AM

Out of curiousity for those at the event, what were the 2 measuring holes and how did they play?


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 06:08 AM

Champ is a beast that can pop up over 190mph ball speed at any time, combine that with elevation and heat and those numbers make sense.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:38 AM

View PostValtiel, on 13 July 2018 - 06:08 AM, said:

Champ is a beast that can pop up over 190mph ball speed at any time, combine that with elevation and heat and those numbers make sense.

I feel he has a legit chance at posting a 200mph ball speed if he wants it... I read an article about how his current course swing is turned down, and this "turned down" driver swing produces a clockwork 129-130mph. Fantastic to watch.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 09:24 AM

View PostQMany, on 13 July 2018 - 06:02 AM, said:

Out of curiousity for those at the event, what were the 2 measuring holes and how did they play?

The one I remember on 15 is a dog leg left par 5 at 547 yards. The tee box in relation to the fairway doesn't have much of an elevation difference (this course is relatively flat). There may have been a touch of helping wind but nothing gusting. He cut the corner over the left trees by a lot! Crazy to see the line he took vs the others in the group. Where it probably landed looked pretty hard and baked out so I'd imagine he got some good roll out on that hole. You can't see the ball land on this hole because of trees and a bump in the fairway about 250 yards out or so.

EDIT: How do people normally post videos from an iphone on this site? If a know an easy way, I'll post the swing of this drive that I captured and a few others.

Here is the aerial view of the swing.
https://www.pgatour....eron-champ.html

Edited by MillerLowLife, 13 July 2018 - 09:28 AM.


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#118 grm24

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 10:25 AM

View PostQMany, on 13 July 2018 - 06:02 AM, said:

Out of curiousity for those at the event, what were the 2 measuring holes and how did they play?
Per the PGA Tour media web site the 2nd and 15th holes. Both par 5's.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 08:56 PM

He's up three at -17 at the half way mark in Utah. A win moves him to #3 on the Web.com list and virtually assures him of a PGA Tour card for next season.
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Posted 13 July 2018 - 09:07 PM

There is a weird amount of gushing in this thread...

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