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Having my first iron fitting next week...what to expect? Advice?


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#1 aquapig

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:00 AM

Tuesday I'm going to finally get fitted for new irons.

I'm playing to about an 8 right now and have been using an old used set of MP-30s for the last several years. My ss is mid to low 80s with a 6 iron.

I want to go in with an open mind to whatever iron and shaft combo shows the best numbers, although I'm hoping it's the 900F.

Anyway, I'm excited and curious if anyone had thoughts about or advice about the process and what to expect.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:16 AM

I think this gives a good bit of info on what to expect.

Top fitter too

https://www.youtube....h?v=kuO7w5g5tPk

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:18 AM

I was fitted over the winter for a new set and to prepare I narrowed down the possibilities to a handful of sets. I came from 690mb and knew I wanted something with more forgiveness without sacrificing much in the way of feel and workability. I researched extensively and went into the fitting with 4 sets I wanted to try but was open to try anything the fitter recommended. I had no thoughts on the shaft going into it so I used the Mizuno swing analyzer, which recommended 3 shafts. The fitter agreed with the recommendations based on my desire to have a little higher trajectory than I was getting from the DG s300 previously. I then tried each set with each shaft option and went with the one that gave me the best performance. I ended up getting the 716 cb/mb combo set with Project X LZ 6.5 and love them so far. Hope that helps.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:21 AM

I would support the "open mind" concept. You can have an idea what you want but the numbers don't lie. Hit EVERYTHING! BUT also like what you are looking down at. I had a pro/fitting before all of the indoor-flight-track-man-see-your-path-ball-speed-numbers stuff and his two things: 1.) feel (duh) and the not so obvious 2.) whatever club gives you the most confidence looking down at it while you hit the ball.

I had some good numbers with a Callaway set a few years back and I hated the way the leading edge looked "fat" and sat up. I couldn't do it. I even hit some blades with some ridiculous shafts in them that I got 4 feet off the ground--but it all helped in the look for feel, and comparison.

Just my two cents.

Have fun!
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:39 AM

One thing to remember, swing as you would if you were playing, it is very tough to stay level headed and not overswing and of course be prepared (open mind) to get some news (good or bad) in terms of swing weight, flex that equals your swing (softer most of the time) and lastly they may recommend GI irons or something with a bit of more forgiveness (for those of us that like the muscle back style clubs)...have fun and ensure you ask a lot of questions, leave the fitting informed and satisfied...good luck.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:49 AM

View Postjjonny85, on 14 June 2017 - 07:16 AM, said:

I think this gives a good bit of info on what to expect.

Top fitter too

https://www.youtube....h?v=kuO7w5g5tPk

I'd love to believe that this is a typical fitting, but it's not.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:29 AM

Get lots of rest, might be hitting a ton of balls?! Bring some water. And yes, an open mind is best. Check your ego at the door and have fun! ;)
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:42 AM

Make sure you give yourself adequate time to warm up.  Keep in mind that this might be more than 5 or 6 swings....it should be enough swings to where you feel like you can take a good full warmed-up swing with your driver.  Most fitters will consider this, but make sure you discuss with them beforehand.  The last thing you want is for some cold swings influencing their decisions.  For example, they could switch shafts right as you are getting warmed up and get confused that the shaft was causing you to hit it better....when in fact it was just because you were fully warmed up.  

Be open minded to whatever they tell you, but always communicate with them as much as possible.  You might get good results with a certain club, but let them know if it feels unusual to you or you lack in confidence in it for whatever reason.  They may convince you that club is in fact the real deal for you, or they may find something similar that gives you better feel/more confidence.
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:45 AM

Or you can do the opposite of the above, like I did.

I wanted the Z565's.
I was given the Apex, 900HM, 900HM and then asked to hit the Z565's.....the rest of the night was the fitter finding the shaft to fit me that could go with the Z565's.
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:00 AM

Had played MP-52s since 2008, and was on the hunt for new irons near the end of last summer.  Knew I needed a little bit of GI technology, but have always struggled looking at a club with thick lines and offset.  The iBlade and JPX900 tour & forged had really piqued my interest.  Spent some time with our pro and the Ping rep first.  Loved the look and feel of iBlade, but launch numbers weren't much of an improvement over the old set.  Pro handed me an e1 to try... I scoffed at the looks initially and begrudgingly made a few swings.  The numbers were off the charts, no matter where I hit it on the face..  JPX900's came out a month or so later, and pro had kept the specs and ball data from e1 to compare.  We went through the process with the tour and forged JPX and couldn't come close to the distance and control of the e1, as well as the very solid feel.  I've easily overcome my initial distaste for looks, and absolutely love them.


Summary - keep an open mind and let the data tell the story...


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:03 AM

Keep and open mind because you might be blown away. I had always played lighter weight shafts but got a real fitting and ended up going into close to tour weight shafts, even though I'm not capable of tour length. Got put into a slightly bigger grip and heavier shaft =  went from lots of over cooked draws/hooks to straight to sometimes fade and more distance.
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:29 AM

This is why I love this place. All great advice and some things I hadn't thought about.

I think I'm more excited about getting fit into the right shaft and grip than anything else.

Edited by aquapig, 14 June 2017 - 11:32 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:54 PM

I had my first one ever this past spring, I went in with an open mind but also had my personal needs to fulfill. I walked in and had the option for Mizuno, Titleist and Taylormade. After hitting plenty from all of their Cavity Back iron sets I settled on Titleist. From there we checked lie angle and played around with an extended shaft. I couldn't be happier now! You will love it, helps you understand the technical aspect of golf much more. Enjoy!
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 06:47 AM

Anyone get fit and realize they needed bigger grips?

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:31 AM

View Postaquapig, on 15 June 2017 - 06:47 AM, said:

Anyone get fit and realize they needed bigger grips?

I had a fitting and realized I needed to go down a size, not up! So I was at "jumbo" or something, now I am at standard with 3 wraps---HUGE difference.

-a.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 09:15 AM

I've gone through two and I kind of regret both. The most recent, was started with the Mizuno shaft optimizer. Of the 3 shafts that it recommended, he only had one so I ended up having to hit S flex instead of X which throws out the purpose of a fitting. Make sure that your fitter has options and lots of them.
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:18 AM

Keep an open mind.  Have an idea what heads you want, but be totally empty headed in terms of shafts go.  I went into my Mizuno demo day fitting in this fashion.  Didn't even bring one of my clubs with me.  My head pro told the rep that I was currently swinging a blade.  First thing that the rep handed me was an MP5.  While I liked it, I told him I was after a little more forgiveness.  He next tried the MP25.  Hit it okay, but HATED the look of it behind the ball.  Moved me next to the JPX Tour.  Liked the way the ball came off and the way that the club sat behind the ball.  Next it was just a matter of getting the shaft figured out.  Started at DG AMT, then went to PX then finally settled in on Modus 3.  I was told not to look at what flex was in the clubs when handed each.  Turns out it was X100, 6.5 and X respectively.  Shocked the daylights out of me as I've always been a stiff flex in irons aside from a brief flirtation with soft stepped X shafts which performed well but didn't feel all that great to me.  Got the clubs in on Friday and they seem to be a great fit.  I just need to get a few rounds in with them to re-learn all of my yardages with these as they seem to fly a little further than my MB's.  

Now, after the fitting was finished, I still wasn't totally sold on the X shaft so I did go over to my local GG to test the Modus 3 X against a few other shafts that I like (KBS Tour and C-Taper) and also against the Modus 3 in stiff.  Guess what, the Modus 3 in X outperformed all of the others in the numbers department.  It appears to do likewise on the course as well.  

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:26 AM

Warm up a little before hand.

Relax, don't try to do anything you wouldn't do in a normal game. Don't let a bad shot put you off.

Don't hold back, tell the fitter exactly what you feel, even if you think it feels stupid.

Hit all your shots at an imagining target, don't play beat the machine.

When you are down to a short list, hit something other than a stock shot (high, low, fade, draw) we don't play laboratory golf in the real world, it might help with the final choice.

Enjoy!

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 07:18 AM

I'm getting more excited the more I'm hearing.

I'm also curious just how wrong my current setup might be for me. I would say I'm a decent ball striker, smaller hands, and my swing speed is definitely on the lower side (6 iron 78-84 range). My current set-up is a set of off the rack used MP-30s with DG300s w standard size grips.

When I'm in a grove my MP-30s feel great, but can really punish a bad shot. Definitely looking for something a bit more forgiving, but with workability and great feel.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:50 AM

Should I try SGI, GI and players clubs..or should I focus in on one line and spend more time on shafts and getting dialed in on which setup works best?


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#21 Z1ggy16

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:34 PM

Try as much as you can. Don't let the fitter "sway" you based on HC. If the first thing they say to you is "So what's your hc?" I'd be tempted to just walk right out.

I'd tend to maybe spend your time on GI/Players CB though, as SGI doesn't really offer anything more for somebody who's got a half way decent swing. I'd probably start with something comparable to what you're in now, and then switch to more forgiving heads to see if numbers/feels get better. I'd be extremely surprised at your SS that you'd end up walking out of there in the S300's you have now. Unless you have a ton of lag and are very aggressive, a 130g shaft as those speeds isn't optimal. You'll probably end up closer to that mid weight mark unless you're on the extreme end of smoothness or aggressiveness.

IMO shaft is going to make more difference than the head will, barring very different designs. Lie and length will matter too, so make sure that's all accounted for by the fitter. I wouldn't spend more than like 10-15mins picking out heads initially, as shaft will probably impact performance and feel a lot more than the subtle differences in the Apex Pro and MP-25, etc.

A good fitter would hopefully first get you on a lie board with face tape to get you in the right lie (and maybe eliminate certain heads). Then have you try various heads and pick your favorite (using a shaft he/she would assume is best for you based on ss and tempo). Then optimize shaft. Then take the optimized shaft and go back and try different heads again to get a final fit into the best possible set up for you.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:27 PM

Great stuff there!

Super excited for tomorrow and can't wait to see the outcome.

I know the clubs probably won't drastically change my scores, but for someone who plays a couple times a week and enjoys the game, I think I'm long over due to get fitted for the proper irons, shafts, grip, lie angle, etc.



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:40 PM

Try to have the fitter hand you the iron by the grip and oriented so you only see the face of the club.  Keep the fitting as blind as possible so you have an open mind.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:05 AM

View Postkmak, on 19 June 2017 - 05:40 PM, said:

Try to have the fitter hand you the iron by the grip and oriented so you only see the face of the club.  Keep the fitting as blind as possible so you have an open mind.

Good thought. I know I'm biased toward Mizuno and don't want to "try harder" with one brand over the next.

For those who have gone through a fitting, did you hit just one iron (like a 7 iron) for all clubs, or did you try the wedges and longer irons as well?

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:51 PM

Just finished my fitting and what a fun experience!

I took all the advice I got in here and made the most of it. I went in with a completely opened mind.

He had me start by warming up with my current 7iron (MP 30 with DG300). I hit about 20-30 balls and was ready to get going.

Then he put on the Mizuno shaft optimizer..my numbers:

Headspeed 85.67 MPH  Tempo 5.00 Toe Down 2.67 Kick Angle 3.00 Release Factor 4.33

I don't really know what those numbers mean, but apparently he was able to narrow down the shaft options.


The line-up was as follows:

Ping Iblade
King Cobra Forged Tour
TM 770
Steelhead XR Pro
Mizuno JPX 900 Forged

I hit all the heads with different shafts (Project X LZ 6.0, C-Taper Lite X, KBS Tour S, XP 115s, Pro Modus 105x).

After hitting balls with each head and shaft, it as time to look at the numbers and man was I blown away (fitter was surprised as well).

He said "the Mizunos blew everything away and it wasn't even close". My dispersion with the Mizunos was ridiculous.

Here are the final numbers with a 7 iron:

Club    Carry  Total Club S  Ball S  RPM

Mizuno JPX 900 Forged   169   179 86 115 4898
Steelhead XR Pro    160    166    91 111 5344
TM 770    159    165    85 109 4902
KING Cobra 153    160   84 107   5425
Ping 151    157   83 106   5606

Final result was Mizuno JPX 900 Forged with C-Taper Lite X 115g

They will be ready next week!

Edited by aquapig, 20 June 2017 - 04:20 PM.


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:57 PM

Did you hit a JPX 900F 7 iron or the 6 iron?  I assume from the number it was the 7i.  Either way, great decision!
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:21 PM

7 iron.

I think the numbers made the decision really easy. I'd like to share the dispersion chart because it's pretty crazy how tight I was with the Mizunos compared to everything else.

Now I have to wait until the end of next week!

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:26 PM

how did you get fit for lie?

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#29 aquapig

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 03:02 PM

For lie he used tape on the face to determine how to adjust the lie. He also said to use the clubs for a few rounds and then we can tinker with the lie if I feel it's necessary.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 03:52 PM

thanks for confirming.
sound like a great experience.

I need to do the same at some point.


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