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#1 daryllwin

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:02 AM

Hi All

I just saw the news about Miura being acquired(a bit late to the game, I know).

I also noticed that on the new website, there is no mention of the baby blades or the tournament blades.

Does this mean that Miura is dropping those blades from their lineup?

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 05:14 PM

Miura has sold their distribution rights for the US market to True Spec Golf....the product line up, going forward, will be what you see on their website.

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 07:15 PM

So far what has been teased as new is what has been available in Japan already.  Liked the logo and clean look of the old stuff better.
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:27 PM

Definitely not a fan of current releases.

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:42 PM

Wow.  If this is correct, no lefty irons.  None.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:42 AM

Maybe they'll have the new CB1008 in left-hand?

I definitely don't like the look of the new passing point, but the CB1008 looks pretty decent IMO.

Just hope they don't steer too far from their player-iron roots.
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 12:34 PM

Wait is that right? I figure some of the sets may be limited/not full release, but it's only what's available on the new site??
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 12:55 PM

View Postgators78, on 13 June 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

Wait is that right? I figure some of the sets may be limited/not full release, but it's only what's available on the new site??

If that's the case, that's terribly depressing and I fear that Miura may have lost what made them Miura in the first place. :(
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 01:07 PM

I'm fearful of whats ahead.

They should stick to their roots, focus on quality and craftsmanship. Scrap all driver, fairway and hybrid lines. Concentrate on irons, wedges and putters only. And sign one name from the PGA Tour.

Execute that, then evaluate 3-5 years down the road and go from there.

These new, "modern" lines that Mr. Miura's son is getting behind have me ready to yack. Shouldn't even be held in the same conversation as Mr. Miura's original and developed designs.

Miura, we beg you ... Please stick with what got you to the dance!!! We beg!!!

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 06:48 PM

View PostRaidersgolf99, on 13 June 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

I'm fearful of whats ahead.

They should stick to their roots, focus on quality and craftsmanship. Scrap all driver, fairway and hybrid lines. Concentrate on irons, wedges and putters only. And sign one name from the PGA Tour.

Execute that, then evaluate 3-5 years down the road and go from there.

These new, "modern" lines that Mr. Miura's son is getting behind have me ready to yack. Shouldn't even be held in the same conversation as Mr. Miura's original and developed designs.

Miura, we beg you ... Please stick with what got you to the dance!!! We beg!!!

Agree. I wish they would stick to irons and wedges.

The small blade is the purest club I've ever seen.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:14 PM

View Postpegleg, on 13 June 2017 - 05:19 PM, said:

View Postrebby, on 13 June 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

If that's the case, that's terribly depressing and I fear that Miura may have lost what made them Miura in the first place. :(

View PostRaidersgolf99, on 13 June 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Miura, we beg you ... Please stick with what got you to the dance!!! We beg!!!

This is not how modern capitalism is approached - certainly not in the US.

Grow, expand, double profits and destroy all competitors, this is the only path. Kill or be killed.

In MBA school they do not teach the rubberband theory, nor Marx. And those who don't know history... (even recent history)

I get what you are saying. 'Evolve or get left in the dust.' ...

See Sports Authority. See Kodak. See Polaroid. See Border's Book Stores. See Blockbuster Video. See Sears. And many more.

BUT.

My counter is...

Lose focus of quality; lose your core customer base.

Expand before you're ready and grow too fast; NOTHING GOOD. See Bonefish Grill. See Outback Steak House. See Dick's.

Quality and reputation are what sell. Lose focus of either and you're rolling the dice.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:40 PM

well I think  they  shud make 1000 different sets of irons  every 6 months and completely dilute  the market with pop out spam  MIC just like the  big OEMS do and drive prices to absolute zero.   and completely  disrespect everyones cash .
make at least 500  different latest and greatest driver head designs  quarterly  with the worst cheapestshafts imaginable  with interchangeable  cliks bits and  sliders on the base  oh,  and at  least  a billion wedges  just like BV to really really completely ruin the brand, not just a little bit,,  but completely..

and keep  giken here for us with a nice limited range

THEN

sell it  ....



oh wait..............,

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:31 PM

View PostRaidersgolf99, on 13 June 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

View Postpegleg, on 13 June 2017 - 05:19 PM, said:

View Postrebby, on 13 June 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

If that's the case, that's terribly depressing and I fear that Miura may have lost what made them Miura in the first place. :(

View PostRaidersgolf99, on 13 June 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Miura, we beg you ... Please stick with what got you to the dance!!! We beg!!!

This is not how modern capitalism is approached - certainly not in the US.

Grow, expand, double profits and destroy all competitors, this is the only path. Kill or be killed.

In MBA school they do not teach the rubberband theory, nor Marx. And those who don't know history... (even recent history)

I get what you are saying. 'Evolve or get left in the dust.' ...

See Sports Authority. See Kodak. See Polaroid. See Border's Book Stores. See Blockbuster Video. See Sears. And many more.

BUT.

My counter is...

Lose focus of quality; lose your core customer base.

Expand before you're ready and grow too fast; NOTHING GOOD. See Bonefish Grill. See Outback Steak House. See Dick's.

Quality and reputation are what sell. Lose focus of either and you're rolling the dice.

Let's bring this back to golf... See MacGregor, see Wilson Staff. They both used to be power houses in the golf industry, then they decided to chase the discount store dollar and look where they are now.

I'm not saying that Miura is chasing the discount store dollar but they are losing focus of their core customer, those of us who have owned nearly every club they've made, those of us who are not interested in multi-material GI/SGI irons. There is a reason that Titleist has been stable for so long.
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:43 PM

View Postrebby, on 13 June 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostRaidersgolf99, on 13 June 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

View Postpegleg, on 13 June 2017 - 05:19 PM, said:

View Postrebby, on 13 June 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

If that's the case, that's terribly depressing and I fear that Miura may have lost what made them Miura in the first place. :(

View PostRaidersgolf99, on 13 June 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Miura, we beg you ... Please stick with what got you to the dance!!! We beg!!!

This is not how modern capitalism is approached - certainly not in the US.

Grow, expand, double profits and destroy all competitors, this is the only path. Kill or be killed.

In MBA school they do not teach the rubberband theory, nor Marx. And those who don't know history... (even recent history)

I get what you are saying. 'Evolve or get left in the dust.' ...

See Sports Authority. See Kodak. See Polaroid. See Border's Book Stores. See Blockbuster Video. See Sears. And many more.

BUT.

My counter is...

Lose focus of quality; lose your core customer base.

Expand before you're ready and grow too fast; NOTHING GOOD. See Bonefish Grill. See Outback Steak House. See Dick's.

Quality and reputation are what sell. Lose focus of either and you're rolling the dice.

Let's bring this back to golf... See MacGregor, see Wilson Staff. They both used to be power houses in the golf industry, then they decided to chase the discount store dollar and look where they are now.

I'm not saying that Miura is chasing the discount store dollar but they are losing focus of their core customer, those of us who have owned nearly every club they've made, those of us who are not interested in multi-material GI/SGI irons. There is a reason that Titleist has been stable for so long.

I don't mind if they build a PXG competitive game improvement iron. Titleist sells the AP1 after all. But cutting the blade offering back would be a huge mistake.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:53 PM

It's hard to fathom that they would drop the Baby Blade line.  I don't see why they would even consider it.  It has a premium price point that even sold in limited quantity should provide a decent profit margin.  Their blades and wedge line are their basic identity.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:17 PM

View Postwidow-maker, on 13 June 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

It's hard to fathom that they would drop the Baby Blade line.  I don't see why they would even consider it.  It has a premium price point that even sold in limited quantity should provide a decent profit margin.  Their blades and wedge line are their basic identity.

I've played the Baby Blades for 4 1/2 years thus far. I agree with your statement. But please, don't discredit their player cavities too!!! The 202, the 301, the CB-57 .... All A1 in my book!

The Baby Blades are special though! No doubt!

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:20 PM

View Postrebby, on 13 June 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

View PostRaidersgolf99, on 13 June 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

View Postpegleg, on 13 June 2017 - 05:19 PM, said:

View Postrebby, on 13 June 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

If that's the case, that's terribly depressing and I fear that Miura may have lost what made them Miura in the first place. :(

View PostRaidersgolf99, on 13 June 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Miura, we beg you ... Please stick with what got you to the dance!!! We beg!!!

This is not how modern capitalism is approached - certainly not in the US.

Grow, expand, double profits and destroy all competitors, this is the only path. Kill or be killed.

In MBA school they do not teach the rubberband theory, nor Marx. And those who don't know history... (even recent history)

I get what you are saying. 'Evolve or get left in the dust.' ...

See Sports Authority. See Kodak. See Polaroid. See Border's Book Stores. See Blockbuster Video. See Sears. And many more.

BUT.

My counter is...

Lose focus of quality; lose your core customer base.

Expand before you're ready and grow too fast; NOTHING GOOD. See Bonefish Grill. See Outback Steak House. See Dick's.

Quality and reputation are what sell. Lose focus of either and you're rolling the dice.

Let's bring this back to golf... See MacGregor, see Wilson Staff. They both used to be power houses in the golf industry, then they decided to chase the discount store dollar and look where they are now.

I'm not saying that Miura is chasing the discount store dollar but they are losing focus of their core customer, those of us who have owned nearly every club they've made, those of us who are not interested in multi-material GI/SGI irons. There is a reason that Titleist has been stable for so long.

Great comments and examples there on MacGregor and Wilson Staff. I gamed a set from each over the years. Been a long time.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:02 AM

View Postwidow-maker, on 13 June 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

It's hard to fathom that they would drop the Baby Blade line.  I don't see why they would even consider it.  It has a premium price point that even sold in limited quantity should provide a decent profit margin.  Their blades and wedge line are their basic identity.

I also don't get why you would cut the small blade. It has to be a high margin item. It doesn't have to change (they could forge a ton of the heads at a time and work off the inventory over several years). And it's a great "halo" product that makes the rest of the lineup look good.

I wouldn't disagree with cutting the MB001 / Tournament Blade. Not sure you need two muscle back options, and the Small Blade is just as easy to hit.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 09:54 AM

I find it unusual that the CEO operates Tour Spec which is supposed to be a fitting service that is "brand agnostic" according to their own marketing.  That's like going to a psychiatrist and he tells you to find God.  Seems like a clear conflict.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:09 PM

View Postraynorfan1, on 14 June 2017 - 08:02 AM, said:

View Postwidow-maker, on 13 June 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

It's hard to fathom that they would drop the Baby Blade line.  I don't see why they would even consider it.  It has a premium price point that even sold in limited quantity should provide a decent profit margin.  Their blades and wedge line are their basic identity.

I also don't get why you would cut the small blade. It has to be a high margin item. It doesn't have to change (they could forge a ton of the heads at a time and work off the inventory over several years). And it's a great "halo" product that makes the rest of the lineup look good.

I wouldn't disagree with cutting the MB001 / Tournament Blade. Not sure you need two muscle back options, and the Small Blade is just as easy to hit.

so glad i bought my BBs earlier this year after i heard Miura was taken over :taunt:

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:38 PM

View Post3riC, on 14 June 2017 - 07:09 PM, said:

View Postraynorfan1, on 14 June 2017 - 08:02 AM, said:

View Postwidow-maker, on 13 June 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

It's hard to fathom that they would drop the Baby Blade line.  I don't see why they would even consider it.  It has a premium price point that even sold in limited quantity should provide a decent profit margin.  Their blades and wedge line are their basic identity.

I also don't get why you would cut the small blade. It has to be a high margin item. It doesn't have to change (they could forge a ton of the heads at a time and work off the inventory over several years). And it's a great "halo" product that makes the rest of the lineup look good.

I wouldn't disagree with cutting the MB001 / Tournament Blade. Not sure you need two muscle back options, and the Small Blade is just as easy to hit.

so glad i bought my BBs earlier this year after i heard Miura was taken over :taunt:

I'm stockpiling heads. I figure about 8 full sets should get me through my entire golfing life.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 09:55 PM

LOL.

I didn't stockpile, per see, but I picked up most everything I've wanted. KM350, KM007 and some CB-57's added to the collection.

I'd like to pickup a set of conforming 301's 5-P + P/S, a Y-Grind 51, and some back up raw wedge blanks.

I hadn't really contemplated a backup set of Baby Blades. I figure between the Baby Blades and CB-57's, I've got the clubs I'll need, to get through life. But you guys got me considering it!

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 12:29 PM

Anyone know how the type F/Dy grinds compare to small blades?

They look super similar, but I have no clue.  If this is the same dye and different grind then there is an answer being produced.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 04:55 PM

Really reduced models. Middle finger to lefties. Still so proud of those awful genesis irons they don't put Miura on them. Unlike Ping looks like next generation doesn't care about what founder did and will run the company into the ground by selling out. All I can figure is they were in bad shape financially or Miura san no longer has control

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:22 PM

Stock up, boys.

.... Unfortunately, it's been confirmed, no more Baby Blades, no more CB-57, no more 501, no more C or Y Grind, and no more putters.

Sad day.

(edit/correction) the 005 and 006 remain in the current line of putters.

Edited by Raidersgolf99, 20 June 2017 - 10:29 PM.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:51 PM

Glad I have lots of Baby Blades.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:53 PM

I see everything except 501 on miuragolf.com ?

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:27 PM

I misspoke on the putters, the 005 and 006 remain in the present line.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:48 AM

Aren't both the C and Y grind wedges still on the new website?
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:07 AM

I always meant to try the Baby Blades but never got around to it.  Problem solved... I just took the plunge and purchased a set.  Only problem going forward is that I'm extremely happy with my current irons (Honma 717M) and now I'm going to muddy the waters with choices.  Might have to sell my Buchi's.  No way I can have all 3 around.


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