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#271 Harob11

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:12 PM

View PostBeerPerHole, on 11 November 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

I recently acquired this program and it's a pretty vast body of work, all things considered. For me: I'm a lifelong gym rat who started playing golf around 30. I'm 50 now and am in continuous pain from old football wear and tear. Finally decided to get serious about driver distance this year and this program is probably my last modification to what I've been doing (started with a series of lessons, driver fitting, etc...) I'm impressed with this product. Due to time constraints I changed the gym sessions format into just 2 different ones, longer sessions each (I've got two kids, lawns to mow, wife to please...) I think the most impactful thing for me may end up being the swing exercises because it's so different than what I've been doing - feels great, too!  Nice work, Rob.

Glad you're enjoying it man. I hear you on the time issue. Biggest factor as we get older, with more responsibilities. Our passion for golf doesn't waver, but our time to dedicate towards it, tends to.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 01:26 AM

View PostHarob11, on 11 November 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

View PostLincoln_Arcadia, on 11 November 2017 - 09:07 AM, said:

View PostHarob11, on 11 November 2017 - 02:38 AM, said:

Quick question guys, does anyone happen to know Jack's top end swing-speed in his heyday? Numbers tend to get more and more exaggerated as time goes by (Wilt Chamberlain's 48 inch vertical for example... ummm... no) so I'm curious if it was actually ever measured. I obviously don't know but I would guess around 125 MPH. Thoughts? Facts?


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125 sounds too high. I'd guess gets in line with current pros at 116 to 117, but hits the center with near perfection?

Think so? I read he hit a winning long drive 340 back in 1960 or 1970something with a balata and persimmon...
I also read he had his swing-speed measured around 115 mph at 50 something years old.
Who knows though, maybe you're right.

You might be right after all, I just looked him up and he had a swing speed of 118mph when he was 58 years old getting a Trackman reading on his swing in 1998. He must have had a 125+mph swing like Rory. I think they're about the same size too.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:19 AM

Yep, that's what I was referring to. Unbelievably impressive! And yes, I think he and Rory are similar heights.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:43 AM

View PostHarob11, on 14 November 2017 - 02:19 AM, said:

Yep, that's what I was referring to. Unbelievably impressive! And yes, I think he and Rory are similar heights.

Rob,
First, for the money, I am really impressed by the depth of the program.

I bought it primarily for the swing speed drills.  That said, I understand the body needs to be "prepped" and stretched to do those drills, hence the flexibility program.  I'd like to focus most of my training time on the swing speed drills, and those can be a workout in itself.  Can you point to a FEW of the flexibility program exercises that you think best support the swing speed program?  (Assume otherwise healthy adult.  No pre-existing back, muscular, or other structural problems or limitations.)  Feel free to PM if you prefer!

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:35 PM

Hi Rob,

Just some personal observations.  The MFR is pretty comprehensive, it in itself is a decent core workout! lol

The fact that the program is "modular" helps so I can tweak the program so it works for me.  For example, quite a few of the mobility exercises I already do at the yoga studio and I'm an admitted yogi addict.  I can spend more time on the MFR part of the program without worrying about over training.  I'll start putting the swing and strength portion into place soon.   What I would like to do is find a way to measure my swing speed as my baseline so I can see the progress as I work through the program before starting those programs.


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:10 AM

View Postgames, on 14 November 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:

View PostHarob11, on 14 November 2017 - 02:19 AM, said:

Yep, that's what I was referring to. Unbelievably impressive! And yes, I think he and Rory are similar heights.

Rob,
First, for the money, I am really impressed by the depth of the program.

I bought it primarily for the swing speed drills.  That said, I understand the body needs to be "prepped" and stretched to do those drills, hence the flexibility program.  I'd like to focus most of my training time on the swing speed drills, and those can be a workout in itself.  Can you point to a FEW of the flexibility program exercises that you think best support the swing speed program?  (Assume otherwise healthy adult.  No pre-existing back, muscular, or other structural problems or limitations.)  Feel free to PM if you prefer!

Thanks again for this affordable, yet comprehensive program!


My pleasure, glad you're liking it man.

Honestly, I'd like to say just do this, this and that but I'd being doing you a disservice if I did. Everyone is unique in multiple ways. Different ages, builds, athletic backgrounds, wear and tear, different goals and desires. The best advice I can give you is to go through all of the mobility and dynamic warmup exercises a couple of different times and really pay attention to how you feel. Are you unable to do certain mobilities exercises properly? Do certain exercises make you especially good and ready to swing fast? Do you get nothing out of a certain exercise? From there, make a list of the exercises you a) need to improve upon the most and b) feel prepare you to swing fast, the best. Chose these exercises for your warmup routine. Re-evaluate in 6 weeks and either stick with them if getting the results you desire or chose some different exercises that you feel you need to improve in.

Make sense?
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:16 AM

View Posted8t, on 14 November 2017 - 09:35 PM, said:

Hi Rob,

Just some personal observations.  The MFR is pretty comprehensive, it in itself is a decent core workout! lol

The fact that the program is "modular" helps so I can tweak the program so it works for me.  For example, quite a few of the mobility exercises I already do at the yoga studio and I'm an admitted yogi addict.  I can spend more time on the MFR part of the program without worrying about over training.  I'll start putting the swing and strength portion into place soon.   What I would like to do is find a way to measure my swing speed as my baseline so I can see the progress as I work through the program before starting those programs.


Hi,

That's perfect and exactly how I want people to use the program. I stuffed it full of good stuff (without the fluff) so people can pick and choose what they want to focus on and utilize. Some people might just be interested in the "Swing-Prep" portion of the program, in order to get a really solid warmup prior to a round of golf, a range session or a gym/swing-speed session. Others might just want to follow the strength training portion of the program. Other's just the Swing-Speed Drills. Regardless, there's definitely something for everyone in the program, that will help people swing faster, feel better and play better golf.

Keep us posted!

Good luck!

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:00 PM

Hi Rob,

I've picked up a couple of slam balls in the 10 and 15 pound range and just noticed 4, 6 and 8 pound med ball working weights in the strength program.  Are the med ball exercises more effective in the lower pounds?  Is it similar to the overspeed/underspeed training protocols to build speed and power?  Might have to improvise and make my own out of rags and small plates. lol

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:50 PM

Hey man,

6-8 pounds it typically a good weight range for some strength development but more importantly, it hits the sweet spot for SPEED. The primary goal with med-ball work is to be able to fire the ball fast. If you're an incredibly strong mutant and you're generating explosive speed with heavier weighted balls, that's fine, but most people tend to want to go too heavy and they lose speed. Speed first and foremost.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:01 PM

Gotcha, time to improvise and build me some rag balls.  :)


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:38 PM

Right on!
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:50 PM

By the way, guys... if any of you feel squatting 3 x week @ 5 reps x 5 sets is too much for you, feel totally free to back off a bit.

Instead, you can either perform:

3 x week @ 5 reps x 3 sets
or
2 x week @ 5 reps of 5 reps

Total reps will be similar - 45/50, but some of you may do better with an added day of rest.

Just a heads up.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 04:20 PM

View PostHarob11, on 16 November 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Hey man,

6-8 pounds it typically a good weight range for some strength development but more importantly, it hits the sweet spot for SPEED. The primary goal with med-ball work is to be able to fire the ball fast. If you're an incredibly strong mutant and you're generating explosive speed with heavier weighted balls, that's fine, but most people tend to want to go too heavy and they lose speed. Speed first and foremost.

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Good to know. I've been tossing a 10-pounder and will drop down. Makes a hell of a racket at the gym against the ball wall - haha.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 04:21 PM

Haha, it totally does. Walls start to shake and stares increase.
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Posted 11 December 2017 - 12:24 AM

How is everyone doing? Questions? Comments? Let me know.

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 07:37 PM

Hey Rob, I had to take a long break - first back then kidney stones (3 kidney stone procedures, lots of pain!!). Finally repaired and ready to restart after 8-10 week layoff. Went to they gym today, good God was that an eye-opener! All that mobility and flexibility and strength... poof.  Gone.  

This time I am going to ease into it slowly. Trying to figure out how to do 3 x 90 plus a couple of 30 minute.  But first, just need to get my body re-acclimated to being in the gym.  In a week or three, once I get a little baseline re-established, I'd like to design a modified program....  

I'm glad to see people are engaging and enjoying the program!

Cheers,

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 03:54 PM

Good stuff!

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 04:10 PM

Just purchased the program today, more out of curiosity than anything. Being a past gym rat that had dabbled in yoga, I had started my own winter program a month ago. However, this seems to be far better. I really like the soft tissue and warmup sections. Going to start those right away. Should help a ton with everyday stress too. I was intrigued and curious about the speed drills and after going through them, I realized all the added motions are mostly to keep you mind off swinging. You focus on the other motions so much that the swing becomes second nature. Absolutely brilliant! It's got me looking forward to this winter.

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:17 AM

View Postwmblake2000, on 11 December 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

Hey Rob, I had to take a long break - first back then kidney stones (3 kidney stone procedures, lots of pain!!). Finally repaired and ready to restart after 8-10 week layoff. Went to they gym today, good God was that an eye-opener! All that mobility and flexibility and strength... poof.  Gone.  

This time I am going to ease into it slowly. Trying to figure out how to do 3 x 90 plus a couple of 30 minute.  But first, just need to get my body re-acclimated to being in the gym.  In a week or three, once I get a little baseline re-established, I'd like to design a modified program....  

I'm glad to see people are engaging and enjoying the program!

Cheers,

Chuck


Hi Chuck!

Man, you've had a rough go. Sorry to hear about all of that. Glad you're feeling better now and ready to go again.
Don't feel bad! I took 6 months off from the gym (work, travel, etc) and just started up a month ago and I've never felt weaker! I love the challenge though, as I know you do too! When you're ready, send me an email and I'll help you with customizing the program somewhat.

Good to hear from ya!
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:29 AM

View PostRi_Redneck, on 12 December 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

Just purchased the program today, more out of curiosity than anything. Being a past gym rat that had dabbled in yoga, I had started my own winter program a month ago. However, this seems to be far better. I really like the soft tissue and warmup sections. Going to start those right away. Should help a ton with everyday stress too. I was intrigued and curious about the speed drills and after going through them, I realized all the added motions are mostly to keep you mind off swinging. You focus on the other motions so much that the swing becomes second nature. Absolutely brilliant! It's got me looking forward to this winter.

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Hi,

Thanks for checking out the program! Glad you're liking what you're seeing for far. I'm a big fan of soft tissue and mobility work. I think most people could really overcome a lot of their aches and pains, while improving their range of motion and athleticism, if they followed a consistent routine. Hopefully more people will find out that this program can help with that.

You're spot on about the swing-speed drills. I designed them to challenge golfers through various positions and movements, to improve balance, stability, range of motion, weight transfer and general athleticism, all while shutting off the mind. They're in sequential order both daily and monthly.

Keep us posted and best of luck!

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:30 AM

Anyone have any questions, suggestions, additions?
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:16 AM

The following is not meant to negatively impune anything about the program. Rather, just want to share my experience so far as it may benefit someone else. Before starting the program, I should note that I was already doing gym workouts three days per week with a mixture of free weight and machine exercises. I also practice or play golf daily having all the time in the world to do as I please. I like the program because it combines mobility, flexibility and strength activities in a very structured and easy to follow format. The other factor that was of most importance to me was not getting injured and that is something Rob has stressed as well in his discussions.

I was getting well into the program completing at least one full cycle and gradually progressing after about 6 weeks of three sessions weekly. After one gym session, I experienced significant pain in in my back about mid-torso on the outer area of my ribs on the right side. The injury was clearly muscular and probably an intercostal pull or tear causing a severe spasm and associated intense pain. The only causes I could narrow down were either: 1.) medicine ball pivot/side toss (that particular day I tried to rotate as hard as I could on the last sets) or 2.) back squats (I use a standing hack squat machine for these to minimize risk of injury due to loss of balance, inconsistent form, etc). Not sure which as they were completed in short proximity to each other.

These injuries are historically slow to heal. Although debilitating initially, I have had significant improvement in pain management since this occurred about six weeks ago through various therapeutic interventions. However, I attempted the gym exercises once this past week and experienced an almost immediate flame up at that site. Able now to engage in routine activities and play golf without ill effects. However, unable to perform other exercise activities as previously accustomed.

This is in no way a reflection on any aspect of Rob's program as I still hope to get back to it at some point. Rather, just a cautionary tale that we're sometimes just one move away from an unforeseen setback.

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:21 PM

View PostHarob11, on 13 December 2017 - 01:17 AM, said:

View Postwmblake2000, on 11 December 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

Hey Rob, I had to take a long break - first back then kidney stones (3 kidney stone procedures, lots of pain!!). Finally repaired and ready to restart after 8-10 week layoff. Went to they gym today, good God was that an eye-opener! All that mobility and flexibility and strength... poof.  Gone.  

This time I am going to ease into it slowly. Trying to figure out how to do 3 x 90 plus a couple of 30 minute.  But first, just need to get my body re-acclimated to being in the gym.  In a week or three, once I get a little baseline re-established, I'd like to design a modified program....  

I'm glad to see people are engaging and enjoying the program!

Cheers,

Chuck


Hi Chuck!

Man, you've had a rough go. Sorry to hear about all of that. Glad you're feeling better now and ready to go again.
Don't feel bad! I took 6 months off from the gym (work, travel, etc) and just started up a month ago and I've never felt weaker! I love the challenge though, as I know you do too! When you're ready, send me an email and I'll help you with customizing the program somewhat.

Good to hear from ya!

It's great to be back in the gym.  As you get older, each time you think 'I'm in the worst shape of my life' it's worse than the last time. Just a little black humor. I mean, every measure - flexibility, stamina, strength - are way off where they were.  (The irony is, I am pounding the ball off the tee, for me, these days) I got injured trying a new swing idea (stupid is as stupid does) and in the process of treating the back and x-rays, they saw the mother of all kidney stones and we were off to the races.

But I love being in the gym.  Makes me feel like an athlete.  Problem is, I am ferocious and just can't get it thru my head not to go full bore. (stupid is as stupid does!) I will email you after the first of the year.  It'll take me that long to kind of get back up to speed.  Once I can do the full mobility regimen with some energy and freedom of motion, then I want to get an idea of how to progress. I really loved the squats/rows etc but I need to be ready for them...
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Posted 15 December 2017 - 02:22 AM

It doesn't take long. That's the depressing part about working out. It can be challenging to build up and so easy to lose.

Ya, new swing patterns at high speeds with zero preparation can cause problems for sure. It's like a high 3/4 arm pitcher suddenly switching to sidearm. There's going to be new, different areas of stress that the body isn't accustomed to. Be careful with that!

I totally agree with you about being in the gym. It does as much for me mentally as it does physically. At 38 (in Jan), I'm not old but I'm no longer the athlete I was in my 20s, either. The problem is, I'm still just as competitive (the case for a lot of guys). When your expectations and physical ability no longer line up, it can be not only frustrating, but depressing. I'm the type of person who truly despises aging, so working out is absolutely crucial for me to feel as if I'm slowing down the hands of time. It provides a true challenge that I need.

What's great, is that a person in their 30s and 40s, who works out consistently, can outperform the 20 year old version of themselves, who never worked out. If that's not an inner challenge, I don't know what is.

I think society, up until the last 10 or so years, has conditioned themselves to believe they're "old", once they turn 50, 60, 70. bullxxxx. The healthiest, happiest people I know are people in their 60s and 70s who still workout and attack life. We have no choice but to age, but we should never get "old". "Old" is a mindset. A crappy one.

Anyway, I think you said you're in your 60s or 70s, so I tip my cap, Chuck. Way to find the motivation to want to continue to better yourself, and the discipline to carry out what's required. Good stuff!

I'll be awaiting your email.

Rob.

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 11:09 AM

Just purchased the program after reading many great reviews.  I've been doing the Stronglifts 5x5 program for the past 12-16 months, 2 months on, 3 weeks off, and alternating cardio days.  Stretching/flexibility/foam rolling is my achilles heel, though.  A 3-time Ironman in my 20s and early 30s, I never really had to focus on those as they seemed natural to do as part of the regimen.  Now, it's 15-30 minutes more I don't want to spend at the gym or the living room floor and I pay for it most mornings...

Current swing speed is in the 100-105 range and my equipment and numbers are maximized for that speed.  Several fitters and teaching pros have said the only way to now make distance improvements is in club speed.  Really looking forward to seeing what this warm-up and speed program can do.

I'll echo the comments on the apparent value of this program for the price.  Thanks for the time and effort in putting it together.


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Posted 16 December 2017 - 12:35 AM

3 time Ironman! That's impressive.

I feel your pain. I think most of us take our youth for granted, at the time. In some weird way though, I like having to work for things more now. When I was young, I didn't have to do anything. I was one of those guys who just had to show up. That can be a blessing and curse, however. Now everything requires more calculation, more strategy, both on and off the course and I've come to really enjoy it.

Glad you have your equipment under control. I'm as big of a club junkie as there is, but I'm also definitely a believer in properly fit clubs.

Stick with this program and I think you will be pleasantly surprised!

I appreciate it. My pleasure.

Good luck!

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 02:32 PM

View PostHarob11, on 13 December 2017 - 01:30 AM, said:

Anyone have any questions, suggestions, additions?

Hi Rob,

I've yet to start the speed and power portion of the program until I get the surgeon's clearance OK to start working out again, but using the myofascia release program prepping and getting the body to do more.  I was doing rolling for specific injuries but your program is a great full body soft tissue conditioner.

One thing I found very useful is to use a cheap foam yoga block with the lacrosse ball for certain exercises ie. placing the block against a wall with the lacrosse ball.  Deeper inroads and range in motion when you let your pecs sink into the ball - it just gives you a bit more room to breathe and move around.  Or yoga block on the ground with the lacrosse ball on top of the block for your neck.  Fabulous for neck muscle release - it's my goto when I feel tension headaches.  Or rolling out the forearms on the floor with the ball on top of the block.  Just easier on the back.  Use your imagination!

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 02:43 AM

Perfect! Love it! I encourage you guys to get creative with this kind of thing. Whatever you feel works best for YOU, is what matters most.
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Posted 19 December 2017 - 04:13 AM

Placed order yesterday. Will try to get back in the tread for evaluations. Writing from Sthlm, so lots of time to work out in vinter. :superman:

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 02:22 PM

View PostRoffe, on 19 December 2017 - 04:13 AM, said:

Placed order yesterday. Will try to get back in the tread for evaluations. Writing from Sthlm, so lots of time to work out in vinter. :superman:

Got it and read it. Looks impressive. Btw, "the lateral reverse Heiden swing" is it named after Eric Heiden? :-))


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