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#31 noodle3872

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:30 PM

From the digging I have done, I'm told the face height is fractionally taller and the CG placement was adjusted. The factory hotmelt placement was also changed.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:57 AM

ive hotmelted both non k and k. Both weighed around 194-195 grams stock.

When I pulled out the weight screw on the k type it had hotmelt already there right where the hole was making it difficult to add more.

After I got them both to 200 grams I hit them to compare any performance difference and there wasn't any difference is sound or performance. Honestly not really sure there's a difference in shape either when I kept trying to split hairs between the 2

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 01:50 PM

I have hit both the "K" and "non-K"  retail heads and did not notice any difference in my hands.. Sound, numbers, and address look seemed the same to me.  Until TMAG confirms difference I do not believe a different head.  Just MHO.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:50 PM

The "K" has a flux capacitor.

once you swing 88mph, you can go anywhere you like

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:00 PM

View Posttsecor, on 19 June 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

The "K" has a flux capacitor.

once you swing 88mph, you can go anywhere you like

Don't forget about that 1.21 Gigawatt Smash Factor





Edit: Completely f'ed up the quote.  See the posts below for more details and a good laugh at my expense.  

Edited by From_Parts_Unknown, 22 June 2017 - 02:53 PM.


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 06:22 AM

View PostFrom_Parts_Unknown, on 19 June 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

View Posttsecor, on 19 June 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

The "K" has a flux capacitor.

once you swing 88mph, you can go anywhere you like

Don't forget about that 1.61 Gigawatt Smash Factor
comes in stainless too

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 06:15 PM

I had a chat my club fitter that deals with TM for Tour heads.  He asked his TI source that works for TM what is the difference with K serial numbers?  He was told that shortly after the 2017 M2 was released TM moved manufacturing from one factory to another one but was not certain if the new factory's production started with K serial numbered heads.  Apparently, just to be safe since these heads could end up on Tour, TM submitted a run of lofts to the USGA for testing/approval.  The heads are exactly the same in every way except TM called the heads produced by the new factory Version 2.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:23 PM

View PostFrom_Parts_Unknown, on 19 June 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

View Posttsecor, on 19 June 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

The "K" has a flux capacitor.

once you swing 88mph, you can go anywhere you like

Don't forget about that 1.61 Gigawatt Smash Factor

1.21 come on man
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:06 PM

View Postnoodle3872, on 21 June 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

I had a chat my club fitter that deals with TM for Tour heads.  He asked his TI source that works for TM what is the difference with K serial numbers?  He was told that shortly after the 2017 M2 was released TM moved manufacturing from one factory to another one but was not certain if the new factory's production started with K serial numbered heads.  Apparently, just to be safe since these heads could end up on Tour, TM submitted a run of lofts to the USGA for testing/approval.  The heads are exactly the same in every way except TM called the heads produced by the new factory Version 2.

That's the most logical explanation I've heard so far.
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:26 PM

View PostPeanut191, on 21 June 2017 - 08:06 PM, said:

View Postnoodle3872, on 21 June 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

I had a chat my club fitter that deals with TM for Tour heads.  He asked his TI source that works for TM what is the difference with K serial numbers?  He was told that shortly after the 2017 M2 was released TM moved manufacturing from one factory to another one but was not certain if the new factory's production started with K serial numbered heads.  Apparently, just to be safe since these heads could end up on Tour, TM submitted a run of lofts to the USGA for testing/approval.  The heads are exactly the same in every way except TM called the heads produced by the new factory Version 2.

That's the most logical explanation I've heard so far.

Wow, a new manufacturing facility?! That sounds like a major major move. I make two trips just to move my crap from the familyroom to the bedroom at night. I'd love to hear more details on this.


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 01:02 PM

Maybe K = North Korea. I heard on the news last night that trade between North Korea and China is higher this year than previous years. Watch out, these K heads may go nuclear...
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:31 PM

View Post95124hacker, on 22 June 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

Maybe K = North Korea. I heard on the news last night that trade between North Korea and China is higher this year than previous years. Watch out, these K heads may go nuclear...
its "K" for Kim Jung Un's personal stash....or whatever the eff his name is....

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:39 PM

I have both K and non-K tour heads in 10.5*.  Removed the weight screw on the K version and it said "V1" in white lettering underneath the washer.  I don't see a lot of obvious differences but planning to hit both tomorrow.
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:52 PM

View PostYzmerf, on 21 June 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

View PostFrom_Parts_Unknown, on 19 June 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

View Posttsecor, on 19 June 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

The "K" has a flux capacitor.

once you swing 88mph, you can go anywhere you like

Don't forget about that 1.61 Gigawatt Smash Factor

1.21 come on man

Complete fail on my part!  I have no excuse.  I knew it was 1.21 but typed the wrong thing. Trying to do too many things at once.  I suck at multi-tasking.  Thanks for the correction.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:00 PM

View PostFrom_Parts_Unknown, on 22 June 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

View PostYzmerf, on 21 June 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

View PostFrom_Parts_Unknown, on 19 June 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

View Posttsecor, on 19 June 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

The "K" has a flux capacitor.

once you swing 88mph, you can go anywhere you like

Don't forget about that 1.61 Gigawatt Smash Factor

1.21 come on man

Complete fail on my part!  I have no excuse.  I knew it was 1.21 but typed the wrong thing. Trying to do too many things at once.  I suck at multi-tasking.  Thanks for the correction.

Forgiven, Im maybe a little to obsessed with Movie quotes.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:30 AM

View Postcmb71, on 22 June 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

I have both K and non-K tour heads in 10.5*.  Removed the weight screw on the K version and it said "V1" in white lettering underneath the washer.  I don't see a lot of obvious differences but planning to hit both tomorrow.
what does that mean?

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:33 AM

View Posttsecor, on 23 June 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

View Postcmb71, on 22 June 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

I have both K and non-K tour heads in 10.5*.  Removed the weight screw on the K version and it said "V1" in white lettering underneath the washer.  I don't see a lot of obvious differences but planning to hit both tomorrow.
what does that mean?
Not sure... hoping someone else might know.
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Posted 23 June 2017 - 12:00 PM

Just got mine yesterday and played it today. Can't compare to a non-K head but it's point & shoot with not-too-loud sound. Not muted but not Ping G loud either.

I would imagine a K head hitting K-Sig balls would be epic...

Edited by 95124hacker, 23 June 2017 - 12:08 PM.

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 12:24 PM

Dumped my Epic and got an M2 last night. Hit a bunch of shafts try to fix my dispersion and settled on the Tensei X. The demo i was hitting was an older one and loud. It was interesting how the shaft affected the sound. Anyway we had to take the shaft out of an M1 as they didnt have an M2 in stock so i never hit the actual club i bought until today. The K head looks absolutely the same to me but is quieter. Maybe a little hot melt, i dont know but i was prepared for the noise and it wasn't there. Win Win!
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 11:23 PM

My understanding is the K serial heads are a lot quieter and much different.  In this case, the head was miles better in ball speed and dispersion for this tour player but your mileage may vary.

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:05 PM

This is interesting... When I saw Will Peoples video a month or so ago, I immediately checked and mine is a "K" serial number (non-tour head).

I am really curious about what it really means. I do notice that it is significantly quieter than other ones I have hit at stores/outside....
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:12 PM

I've got a tour issue K serial available if someone is in the market.
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:28 PM

I looked through about 30 heads at Roger Dunns last weekend looking for a K head in 10.5 and found one.  The worker thought I was freaking nuts.  :crazy2:
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 11:16 PM

All this K serial number talk is pointless. There is no differences in K or non-K heads. They are the same heads in every detail except which factory they were made. If there was a difference structurally, there would be some visible exterior difference in the clubs design or graphics and these differences would be detailed on the USGA Conforming List. People are advertising K heads in hopes that they can score some extra cash over a non-K head. Aside from what I offered up in Posts #31 and #37 from solid sources, people sre grasping at straws. There is a M2 V1 and V2. They are identical.

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 06:18 AM

I heard the "K" heads fly 50 yards further....

Just kidding, but my question is whats the difference between tour heads and non-tour heads?  Is this just a marketing thing?


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Posted 30 June 2017 - 02:48 PM

Tour heads are selected based on specs and then tested to ensure they are not above the established club face rebound limit.  The clubs selected for Tour have a spec sticker put on them with the true loft, face angle, lie, CT A, CT B and RA numbers.  The heads come from the same factory.  Have the same CG.  Have the same factory hotmelt location.

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 09:45 AM

So just got a TI head the "V2" head. the face is a touch deeper and the bottom of the club is more rounded than the V1.

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 02:03 PM

View PostWardonation, on 01 July 2017 - 09:45 AM, said:

So just got a TI head the "V2" head. the face is a touch deeper and the bottom of the club is more rounded than the V1.

It isn't a night and day difference but there is a difference.

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 11:36 PM

Face height changes based on loft. Did you compare same lofts?

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 09:40 AM

Same loft will look at serial today when at course.


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