


Epic Driver Struggles
#61
Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:31 AM

Mizuno JPX-850, 4W 17* - Fujikura Motore Speeder
Srixon Z565 3 iron, Z765 4-9 iron - TT DG S300
Titleist Vokey SM6, 46.08 F / 50.08 F/ 54.10 S / 60.08 M - TT DG S200
Titleist Scotty Cameron, Futura X7M, 34"
Callaway Chrome Soft
#62
Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:50 AM
Titleist-Golfer, on 30 May 2017 - 10:55 PM, said:
Do yourself a favor and buy a 2016 M2 - you will feel like you won the lottery!
I've tried the M2 and find it's popularity as mystifying as that of the Epic.
For me, the Callaway Fusion, Cobra LTD and even the ancient Callaway GBB all produced numbers about the same as the Epic (and M2) and have the advantage of being much cheaper.
I've done Trackman fittings at my towns 'best' fitter for all of them. The absolute best numbers were with the original GBB. In a different session the Epic was slightly better side by side with the LTD.
On a different monitor testing on my own the LTD produced slightly better numbers.
i use Arccos 360 and on course there is no difference in distance that couldn't be ascribed to wind or slope or that day's swing. I hit my longest drive with the Epic, but that was with a tailwind. My dispersion has also been much worse with the Epic, but I'm currently blaming three bad swing days for that.
Given I don't like the looks or the sound either, it obviously is not the club for me.
It gets one more chance when the shaft the fitter recommended arrives, then off to BST.
Cobra F6 Baffler
Callaway BB OS & Ping Crossover hybrids
Callaway Steelhead Pro irons
Cleveland Rotex 3.0 wedges
Edel E3 putter
#63
Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:50 PM
#64
Posted 08 June 2017 - 08:16 PM
#65
Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:08 PM

Cobra F7 w/Fujikura 65
Taylormade Aeroburner TP 18° w/Fujikura Blur
Taylormade Aeroburner TP 22° hybrid/w/Fujikura Speed Rated A
Cobra KING F8 One (5-GW) w/Alidla Rogue
Nike XR X3X TS 56° w/Paderson Kinetix X
Nike Engage 60° w/Paderson Kinetix X
Taylormade Tour Spider BLACK @ 35"
Titleist Pro V1x
Nike NG 360° Golf Fitting staff bag
#66
Posted 10 June 2017 - 07:31 AM
Taylormade Rocketballz Pro Stage 2 14.5 Motore Speeder VC 8.2
Adams Pro Mini NV 82 S
Titleist 712 AP2 4-pw S400
Titleist Sm6 S400 50 - 54 - 58
Odyssey White Damascus 1
#67
Posted 10 June 2017 - 07:35 AM
07 BURNER TP 17.5* MATRIX CODE 8
ADAMS PRO GOLD 3H TOUR ISSUE NV 85
COBRA KING FORGED 5-GW KBS TOUR V
CALLAWAY MD3 FORDED 56* RAW KBS TOUR V
CALLAWAY MD3 FORDED 60* RAW KBS TOUR V
TOULON MILLED COLUMBUS CAMERON BLACK MATADOR MID
TAYLORMADE TP5X
CALLAWAY APEX UT 21* RECOIL 110 DEPENDING ON CONDITIONS
#68
Posted 10 June 2017 - 08:06 AM
#69
Posted 10 June 2017 - 08:48 AM
Callaway XR 16 15* Speeder 565
Callaway XR 16 19* Speeder 565
Srixon z545 4-PW w/ Project X 6.0
Cleveland RTX CB 48* w/ Project X 6.0
Vokey SM5 54* Nippon Modus 125
Vokey SM5 58* Nippon Modus 125
SeeMore Si5
#70
Posted 13 June 2017 - 12:45 AM

#72
Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:50 AM
Ive played a M1 all of last year and M2 this year and they are excellent. In fact this years M2 is challenging my Ping G15 for the best driver I've ever played.
AP2 718 PX 6.0 3-PW
Vokey SM7 52F 56S 60M PX 6.0
Scotty Cameron Futura 5W
#73
Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:11 PM
jrr, on 30 May 2017 - 06:49 AM, said:
jrr, on 23 May 2017 - 09:19 AM, said:
Had my Epic swing weighted and it was D.3, that is "point" 3. Demo club was D3, that is without "point" and to exact spec.
Called Callaway and they couldn't have been nicer. Told them I wasn't covering a $500 driver with lead tape. They agreed and we are going officially "animal" at 45.5", dual sliding weights. Will see how it works out. By the way they offered to have a new one built to correct spec, the extra weight seemed just to obvious. Again first class effort from Callaway.
Follow on to my prior post. Stumbled on a great deal for a UST Elements Chrome 7F4. Threw it in this weekend. Yes the profile fits me a bit better than stock Hazrdus T800 6.0. But without adding the new sliding weight from Cally, the results were stunning. dispersion and consistency was radically improved. Sure had a few "holy crp" but immediately fixed. I am now a believer in static weight impact.
Will probably leave well enough alone and not add the add'l weight.
As an update, replacement Epic coming and this one has a cracked face. I am close to giving up at this point
#74
Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:03 PM
#75
Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:11 PM

#76
Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:10 PM
Epic
SZ
M1
M2
F7
G30
917D3
The Epic was the star among all of these drivers. The SZ was a close second and in third place was the Cobra F7. My numbers with the Epic were 12* launch, 2500 rpm, and 270 yards with a 100mph club head speed. I put my order in and it should be here this week. One club down, 13 to go. It feels good to be playing golf again.
#77
Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:50 PM
#78
Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:40 PM
And forgiving? Like a saint.
Before dusk, and after 100 or so range balls, I walked from the range to Hole #1 and hit 3 balls with the CS Truvis. Point and Shoot straight -- and I took 3 less clubs for my second shots. I also had bagged a Fusion, and the best hit Fusion ball was 10-12 yards behind the furthest hit Epic ball.
Pretty freakin' Epic.
Edited by SwingMan, 20 June 2017 - 05:19 AM.
In the Bag: Ping G400/TPT Golf Series 17 LKP ● Callaway Rogue 4wd/GD AD F55, 7 wd/GD YS-6 Nano ● Rogue 21HY GD ADHY 75 ● PXG 0311 XF 5-PW/Mitsu OT 75, Miura Y Grind 50, K Grind 55, 59 Nippon Pro Modus 3 105 ● Directed Force Reno ● Callaway CS, Snell MTB; Cart: Stewart Golf RS-1; Irons/Wedges built by Frank VIola @ www.aceofclubstp.com
#79
Posted 20 June 2017 - 04:42 AM
I thought it was way too light stock. I play mine at 46" and added a second 8g sliding weight to the stock 17g one..
As much as I love it, not sure I don't like the SZ 3+ even more, hybrids just got thrown in the bag also.
Rogue SZ 3W - HZRDUS Yellow 76
Epic 3H - Tensei Pro White
MP18 Combo 4-P - PX LZ 6.0
Mizuno T7 - 48-53-58 - PX LZ 6.5
Custom V-Line FangS O-Works - Tank
TM TP5X
#80
Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:54 AM

#81
Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:04 AM
Decided to bite the bullet and get a real fitting (outdoor, trackman) a couple of weeks ago- and I got fit into the Epic 10.5 with HZRDUS R flex. I was consistently hitting the center of the face on almost every swing, and gained about 6 yards over my 816 DBD. I'm very happy with the Epic now and plan for it to be in the bag quite a while.
Edited by 6thFairway, 20 June 2017 - 09:05 AM.
#82
Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:58 AM
Callaway Epic SZ 13.5* Fujikura 72s
Ping G 2H 17* Alta 70s
Srixon Z565 4-GW KBS C-Taper lite 110
Cleveland CBX 54*, 58*
Evnroll ER1 35"
Callaway Truvis Chrome Soft
#83
Posted 21 June 2017 - 02:40 PM
Callaway Rogue SZ 3 Wood Tensei CK Pro White 70 Stiff
Callaway X forged UT 2 & 4 Iron DG S300 OTW
Titleist 718 CB 5-PW DG S300
SM7 Tour Chrome 50.12F, 56.08M, 60.12D S200
Scotty Cameron Del Mar Buttonback Limited Edition
#84
Posted 21 June 2017 - 05:59 PM
odshot68, on 21 June 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:
They will animalize it for you - two weights which may be of different weight to meet your SW requirements.
In the Bag: Ping G400/TPT Golf Series 17 LKP ● Callaway Rogue 4wd/GD AD F55, 7 wd/GD YS-6 Nano ● Rogue 21HY GD ADHY 75 ● PXG 0311 XF 5-PW/Mitsu OT 75, Miura Y Grind 50, K Grind 55, 59 Nippon Pro Modus 3 105 ● Directed Force Reno ● Callaway CS, Snell MTB; Cart: Stewart Golf RS-1; Irons/Wedges built by Frank VIola @ www.aceofclubstp.com
#85
Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:34 AM

#86
Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:35 AM
#87
Posted 25 June 2017 - 01:06 AM
#88
Posted 25 June 2017 - 01:52 AM
odshot68, on 21 June 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:
This was the very first thing I thought after your OP. Thinking that a 3 wood shaft in there would = more control said that you weren't considering swingweight since that would actually make your problem worse. How you perceive the weight of the head can have a huge impact on consistency, especially for a handsy player. I have taken drivers that I hated and cranked the swingweight up on them and I couldn't argue with the results. Same is true for the inverse, a driver that I love everything about does not perform if the swingweight is too light. D0-D3 is a no go for me. D4-D5 is borderline and D6-D8 is where I prefer to be. Grip and shaft will factor into these numbers obviously, but the point is to experiment with all kinds of weight all over the place until you find more consistency. Without knowing weights you're just graba**ing in the dark.
Nike Tour Issue SQ2 13* Blueboard 83x / Nike SQ2 15* Blueboard 93x
Nike Tour Issue SQ2 17* Blueboard 103x / Titleist 906F4 18.5* Blueboard 103x
Ping Anser 20* Aldila Rogue Black 110MSI 105h Tour-X
Mizuno MP-H4 4-Iron Brunswick Precision FCM 7.3 24*
Mizuno MP-59 5-PW Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0 27*- 48*
Vokey SM6 52* F-Grind KBS Tour X / Vokey 452.08 DG X200 Black Oxide
Vokey SM5 56* S-Grind DG S400 / Vokey 456.14 Tour Issue Raw DG X100
Vokey Special 60* V-Grind Black Oxide DG X300 SSx2 / Vokey Tour Issue SM60-04 DG X300 SSx2
SeeMore PTM1 Black / Scotty Cameron Santa Fe w/Bullseye shaft
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