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#1261 TollBros

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:28 PM

View PostPuttfordough91, on 31 December 2018 - 03:45 PM, said:

View Postradtech, on 31 December 2018 - 02:24 PM, said:

Can someone help a brother out?  I'm a fan of Kuro Kage from back with the Adams Super LS line of fairway woods and hybrids for 5-7 years ago.  Kuro Kage is very confusing to just look at names or pictures as most all there shaft look a lot a like.

Can someone post the SKU number for the Kuro Kage Dual Core XT that was tested?  I would like to try one out.  THANK YOU to whoever takes to time to reply!!!!
That was a tour only shaft so there wouldnít be any retail place to buy it if you search on eBay there is probably a few kicking around.

Just remember that the XT profile is TX flex ONLY. No exception to that rule. They are out of production and no longer made.

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 12:54 PM

View PostDcoop86, on 01 November 2018 - 05:35 PM, said:

View Postscojo, on 01 November 2018 - 04:17 PM, said:

View PostDcoop86, on 01 November 2018 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 01 November 2018 - 11:50 AM, said:

View PostDcoop86, on 28 October 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

For anyone out there playing multiple of these shafts... I had Toll help me with two different Synergy shafts (a 60tx and 70tx) both tipped 2" and the 60tx was absolutely MONEY in an 8.2* 460 M1 and I put both weights on the front track split apart.

My question....

I snapped the 60tx and lost the M1 head as it went flying into a hazard... Now that I can't get my hands on a Synergy 60tx I'm looking at the Pro Orange tipped 1.2-2" as well in a 8.2* M2. I plan on opening the M2 slightly and changing the back weight out for something slightly lighter and hot melting near the face. Anyone have suggestions away from that setup? I was clocked at Tru Spec at 134mph swing speed if it matters. I'm just trying to get a hold of spin and launch while keeping the feel of the Synergy.

Edit: video for "transition" or tempo https://www.instagra...id=dknbyjbrolgn

Synergy Black is very unique in that it feels incredibly smooth, launches more mid, but the spin is incredibly low. That feel is very hard to get in a shaft this low spin. The closest thing, now that Black profile is gone is probably Synergy Green Proto, or the protos we are testing out right now, that I should be able to discuss sometime next week.

Looking forward to it. I ended up buying a 7.2* M4 with a PO tipped 1.5" but will still be on the lookout for shafts if this doesn't cut the mustard.

Where did you find a 7.2* M4?  Sign me up for one of those!

The one and only Will Peoples at The People's clubs. I think he has another M4 Head that is Sub 8* but I snagged the lowest. Just tell him Drew sent you. Dude makes some awesome clubs

I can say that both Will and Toll offer amazing service and clubs. Be warned... it is a dangerous slope you are about to embark on. Almost got kicked out of the house when wife saw the empty boxes in the garage from 4 shafts and 3 clubs...
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 02:20 PM

View Postcali_catalyst, on 04 January 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:



I can say that both Will and Toll offer amazing service and clubs. Be warned... it is a dangerous slope you are about to embark on. Almost got kicked out of the house when wife saw the empty boxes in the garage from 4 shafts and 3 clubs...

So I probably shouldn't tell you that we will have brand new Tour issue M5 and M6 heads in about 6 weeks? ;)
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 03:58 PM

View PostTollBros, on 04 January 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So I probably shouldn't tell you that we will have brand new Tour issue M5 and M6 heads in about 6 weeks? ;)

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 04:31 PM

View PostTollBros, on 04 January 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

View Postcali_catalyst, on 04 January 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:



I can say that both Will and Toll offer amazing service and clubs. Be warned... it is a dangerous slope you are about to embark on. Almost got kicked out of the house when wife saw the empty boxes in the garage from 4 shafts and 3 clubs...

So I probably shouldn't tell you that we will have brand new Tour issue M5 and M6 heads in about 6 weeks? ;)
Itís going to be an expensive year...

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 06:50 PM

View PostTollBros, on 04 January 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

View Postcali_catalyst, on 04 January 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

I can say that both Will and Toll offer amazing service and clubs. Be warned... it is a dangerous slope you are about to embark on. Almost got kicked out of the house when wife saw the empty boxes in the garage from 4 shafts and 3 clubs...

So I probably shouldn't tell you that we will have brand new Tour issue M5 and M6 heads in about 6 weeks? ;)

M5 Tour... about 9.5... Now I know they have the same adapter as the M3, but why not get a new shaft too? :)
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 07:11 PM

View PostCruisin1966, on 04 January 2019 - 03:58 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 04 January 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So I probably shouldn't tell you that we will have brand new Tour issue M5 and M6 heads in about 6 weeks? ;)

I'M IN!!!!!!!  After, of course, hearing your opinion on the new M's.

I will of course do a whole new test with a few of the guys for sake of comparison on the new heads. Before I state anything about data, I need to have heads with identical specs on the Trackman so we can be 100% valid in those comparisons. I will tell you that initial testing about a month back is very encouraging. The new heads are not a repeat of the 2017 stuff, ie a step back. I don't think anyone will be unhappy with the new products. Some speeds of course benefit more than others.
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Posted 04 January 2019 - 07:12 PM

View Postcali_catalyst, on 04 January 2019 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 04 January 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

View Postcali_catalyst, on 04 January 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

I can say that both Will and Toll offer amazing service and clubs. Be warned... it is a dangerous slope you are about to embark on. Almost got kicked out of the house when wife saw the empty boxes in the garage from 4 shafts and 3 clubs...

So I probably shouldn't tell you that we will have brand new Tour issue M5 and M6 heads in about 6 weeks? ;)

M5 Tour... about 9.5... Now I know they have the same adapter as the M3, but why not get a new shaft too? :)

That's the spirit. Haha. We should have limited stock in about 5-6 weeks. Every loft should be represented.
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Posted 05 January 2019 - 10:22 AM

View PostTollBros, on 19 December 2018 - 01:27 AM, said:

Let's add the feedback on Aldila Tour ATX Blue and Green Graphene Protos, along with the data on Rogue 130.

Test Feedback + Data

Tour Green '19 is best described as somewhat of a Tensei Pro White type profile with slightly more kick and life to it, but still very stable. I suppose the best description of the feel came from one of our testers. To paraphrase slightly, he said that the shaft feels like it loads, but hits a load point where everything seems to freeze and hold. Meaning that you can feel the life in the shaft when it loads up, but instead of feeling loose and overloading, it hits a point of stability in the load process where you can feel the shaft firm up and hold that load to impact. You don't really feel a pronounced kick through the ball, more of sort of a snap release of the load up into the golf ball. It's somewhat subtle but it almost feels like a small powerful snap into the ball at impact. I would also say that it feels a little bit more tight in the handle than a typical white board type profile, but still has that general feel, coupled with tremendous tip stability without feeling harsh. I am assuming that this is the affect of the Graphene technology, allowing the shaft to have smoothness to a degree, and no feeling of harshness, but still retain a very stiff tip section to keep the spin ultra low. It is, I would say, slightly tighter feeling overall than Synergy Black, but VERY similar in overall feel and performance. This is not anything resembling a broomstick type shaft. The feel, as in Synergy Black, is surprising to some. We just aren't used to having a shaft with so much feel to it, yet such eye poppingly low spin numbers. If you like something you don't feel like you need to absolutely stand on to get it to perform, but still want ultra low spin and a controlled launch angle, this is it. We also found it to be very straight hitting. Several testers commented that it was really deviating much unless they really tried to manipulate the shot pattern. Again, I'm going to assume it's the graphene tech that is causing this, just the same as Synergy Black did.

Tour Blue '19 is, I would say more of a Mitsubishi blue board type profile. The shaft has pronounced life to it, and really has that sort of original blue board type butt stability with that lower life in the shaft that makes it feel so smooth and manageable. It is certainly not as low launch or spin than the Tour Green, and is more for the player who either wants a fairway wood combination, or even just loves the blue board feel and performance, yet does not need the massive spin reduction of the Tour Green. The kick is pronounced and the shaft was really more well received by players under 120mph. It's a shaft that is smooth feeling, easy to turn over and move around with, yet is still stable enough not to feel uncontrollable when you want to hit your "stock shot". Tensei Pro Blue might be a competitor for this profile, however I'd say it feels slightly more lively overall, more like an original blueboard.

Edited by cali_catalyst, 05 January 2019 - 10:37 AM.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 01:42 PM

Just bought a KK DC 70TX from the BST (not sure of exact tipping, but between 1-1.5" I was told) and am very excited to try it in both Epic SZ and LTD Pro. It currently has a Callaway tip, but may change it out after testing it in the Epic. I was launching the ball super high towards the end of the season and in some launch monitor sessions (15-16 deg high), even with the Rogue 125 70TX in the Epic SZ.

I'll be comparing the Rogue 125 to KK DC and track the differences on the LM. I'm hoping it brings my launch/spin down to ~13 and ~2000-2200 spin. Been sitting around 15 / 2600 lately for the most part.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:55 PM

View Post300_Straight, on 11 January 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

Just bought a KK DC 70TX from the BST (not sure of exact tipping, but between 1-1.5" I was told) and am very excited to try it in both Epic SZ and LTD Pro. It currently has a Callaway tip, but may change it out after testing it in the Epic. I was launching the ball super high towards the end of the season and in some launch monitor sessions (15-16 deg high), even with the Rogue 125 70TX in the Epic SZ.

I'll be comparing the Rogue 125 to KK DC and track the differences on the LM. I'm hoping it brings my launch/spin down to ~13 and ~2000-2200 spin. Been sitting around 15 / 2600 lately for the most part.
That might be asking a lot of the kk dc tx. 2-3* lower launch and 400-600 less spin compared to the 125 rogue. It will be lower but not sure if that much. However if you drop the loft 1-2* and pair up the kk dc tx, you'd certainly be in the range you want.

Edited by Rosco1216, 11 January 2019 - 04:01 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM

View PostRosco1216, on 11 January 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

View Post300_Straight, on 11 January 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

Just bought a KK DC 70TX from the BST (not sure of exact tipping, but between 1-1.5" I was told) and am very excited to try it in both Epic SZ and LTD Pro. It currently has a Callaway tip, but may change it out after testing it in the Epic. I was launching the ball super high towards the end of the season and in some launch monitor sessions (15-16 deg high), even with the Rogue 125 70TX in the Epic SZ.

I'll be comparing the Rogue 125 to KK DC and track the differences on the LM. I'm hoping it brings my launch/spin down to ~13 and ~2000-2200 spin. Been sitting around 15 / 2600 lately for the most part.
That might be asking a lot of the kk dc tx. 2-3* lower launch and 400-600 less spin compared to the 125 rogue. It will be lower but not sure if that much. However if you drop the face angle 1-2* and pair up the kk dc tx, you'd certainly be in the range you want.
I heard so much about the feel and performance I had to try it (first time ho'er). I've gotten the Epic SZ/125 Rogue combo down to 11 launch and high teens / low 2000s spin, but not consistently. Could be a 'me' problem, but at least I get to try out the KK DC anyway :) Plus I heard it was a beast in the LTD Pro, which I plan to try it with next.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 02:17 AM

View Post300_Straight, on 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostRosco1216, on 11 January 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

View Post300_Straight, on 11 January 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

Just bought a KK DC 70TX from the BST (not sure of exact tipping, but between 1-1.5" I was told) and am very excited to try it in both Epic SZ and LTD Pro. It currently has a Callaway tip, but may change it out after testing it in the Epic. I was launching the ball super high towards the end of the season and in some launch monitor sessions (15-16 deg high), even with the Rogue 125 70TX in the Epic SZ.

I'll be comparing the Rogue 125 to KK DC and track the differences on the LM. I'm hoping it brings my launch/spin down to ~13 and ~2000-2200 spin. Been sitting around 15 / 2600 lately for the most part.
That might be asking a lot of the kk dc tx. 2-3* lower launch and 400-600 less spin compared to the 125 rogue. It will be lower but not sure if that much. However if you drop the face angle 1-2* and pair up the kk dc tx, you'd certainly be in the range you want.
I heard so much about the feel and performance I had to try it (first time ho'er). I've gotten the Epic SZ/125 Rogue combo down to 11 launch and high teens / low 2000s spin, but not consistently. Could be a 'me' problem, but at least I get to try out the KK DC anyway :) Plus I heard it was a beast in the LTD Pro, which I plan to try it with next.

DcXT is a great shaft and great in those LTD heads. If you still have trouble with launch and spin it might be time to get a low lofted Tour head or start dipping into the really ultra low spin shafts like Rogue 130, ATX Tour Graphene, or Synergy Black.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:22 AM

View PostTollBros, on 12 January 2019 - 02:17 AM, said:

View Post300_Straight, on 11 January 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

View PostRosco1216, on 11 January 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

View Post300_Straight, on 11 January 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

Just bought a KK DC 70TX from the BST (not sure of exact tipping, but between 1-1.5" I was told) and am very excited to try it in both Epic SZ and LTD Pro. It currently has a Callaway tip, but may change it out after testing it in the Epic. I was launching the ball super high towards the end of the season and in some launch monitor sessions (15-16 deg high), even with the Rogue 125 70TX in the Epic SZ.

I'll be comparing the Rogue 125 to KK DC and track the differences on the LM. I'm hoping it brings my launch/spin down to ~13 and ~2000-2200 spin. Been sitting around 15 / 2600 lately for the most part.
That might be asking a lot of the kk dc tx. 2-3* lower launch and 400-600 less spin compared to the 125 rogue. It will be lower but not sure if that much. However if you drop the face angle 1-2* and pair up the kk dc tx, you'd certainly be in the range you want.
I heard so much about the feel and performance I had to try it (first time ho'er). I've gotten the Epic SZ/125 Rogue combo down to 11 launch and high teens / low 2000s spin, but not consistently. Could be a 'me' problem, but at least I get to try out the KK DC anyway :) Plus I heard it was a beast in the LTD Pro, which I plan to try it with next.

DcXT is a great shaft and great in those LTD heads. If you still have trouble with launch and spin it might be time to get a low lofted Tour head or start dipping into the really ultra low spin shafts like Rogue 130, ATX Tour Graphene, or Synergy Black.
I need to find out my dynamic loft numbers to see the big picture. I was playing a bore through glued driver up through last season, so I am still very new to ho'ing :)
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:33 AM

I seriously canít believe I just found this thread!

Thanks for starting and updating this TB! I can tell itís a lot of work.


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Posted 12 January 2019 - 02:46 PM

View PostHateto3Putt, on 12 January 2019 - 10:33 AM, said:

I seriously canít believe I just found this thread!

Thanks for starting and updating this TB! I can tell itís a lot of work.

I know it's getting a bit convoluted, but if you take the time to page by page read, there's a lot of data and info intermingled through out.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:02 PM

Hi i just got a pro orange stiff 60. Its length is 44.75 inches with tip and grip. Playing it in a g400 max. I feel its a little soft to flex any advice stiffening it a little. Other shafts i have used are hzrdus yellow 76 gram which was to stiff and kuro kage dual core stiff 60 which was slightly weak but pretty good both shafts were standard ping shafts 45.25 inches. I swing around 100mph medium fast transition. I think the shaft being so long is making it seem wippy. I played one round with it and had misses left and right.

Also if i should start a new thread i can thanks

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:06 PM

View Postfatk9, on 12 January 2019 - 03:02 PM, said:

Hi i just got a pro orange stiff 60. Its raw length is 45.5 inches. Playing it in a g400 max. I feel its a little soft to flex any advice stiffening it a little. Other shafts i have used are hzrdus yellow 76 gram which was to stiff and kuro kage dual core stiff 60 which was slightly weak but pretty good both shafts were standard ping shafts 45.25 inches. I swing around 100mph medium fast transition. I think the shaft being so long is making it seem wippy. I played one round with it and had misses left and right.

Also if i should start a new thread i can thanks

Steve
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 08:42 PM

I rarely comment on here but am a frequent reader and I must say this material is gold! Appreciate your diligence and high caliber data...I'm still pretty content with my KK DC and XD 70TX shafts... something about my swing and KK just click, however that new ATX Green I gotta try.
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 08:51 PM

View PostIronhorse723, on 12 January 2019 - 08:42 PM, said:

I rarely comment on here but am a frequent reader and I must say this material is gold! Appreciate your diligence and high caliber data...I'm still pretty content with my KK DC and XD 70TX shafts... something about my swing and KK just click, however that new ATX Green I gotta try.

I agree. The kk dc 70TX is amazing. I still love mine and have a backup one also.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 09:57 PM

I’m still using my KK XT 60TX and can’t imagine anything being any better. Am I wrong??
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 11:06 PM

View Postdrvrwdge, on 12 January 2019 - 09:57 PM, said:

I’m still using my KK XT 60TX and can’t imagine anything being any better. Am I wrong??
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 11:10 PM

Taking my newly acquired KK DC 70TX for a quick spin tomorrow in the Epic SZ head vs Rogue 125 70TX, both 44.5". Will see how they do!
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 07:28 PM

Today I tested the KK DC 70TX vs Rogue 125 70TX in my Epic SZ. Now, I've swung the Rogue about 50-75 swings compared to the KK, which I took about 6 or 7. So take this with a grain of salt, or at least the numbers.

The KK doesnt feel quite as stout as the Rogue, for lack of a better term. It's not loose by any means, but definitely had more kick to it. Something I will get used to I am sure. It felt a bit more tip heavy compared to the Rogue, but a great feeling shaft with a bit of kick near impact.

Initial numbers show the KK launching higher and spinning slightly more than the Rogue. Again, this is only with a few swings on it. Much more testing is needed. I also think that since it has more kick. That I am probably hitting it even lower in the face than typically, which is causing the higher launch and spin.

I will say, out of the 6 shots I think 3 were within 3 yards of dead straight. Cant wait to test it some more.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 07:33 PM

View Post300_Straight, on 13 January 2019 - 07:28 PM, said:

Today I tested the KK DC 70TX vs Rogue 125 70TX in my Epic SZ. Now, I've swung the Rogue about 50-75 swings compared to the KK, which I took about 6 or 7. So take this with a grain of salt, or at least the numbers.

The KK doesnt feel quite as stout as the Rogue, for lack of a better term. It's not loose by any means, but definitely had more kick to it. Something I will get used to I am sure. It felt a bit more tip heavy compared to the Rogue, but a great feeling shaft with a bit of kick near impact.

Initial numbers show the KK launching higher and spinning slightly more than the Rogue. Again, this is only with a few swings on it. Much more testing is needed. I also think that since it has more kick. That I am probably hitting it even lower in the face than typically, which is causing the higher launch and spin.

I will say, out of the 6 shots I think 3 were within 3 yards of dead straight. Cant wait to test it some more.

Keep in mind rogue 125 is counterbanced so you will need to remove about 4 grams from the head in the kkdcxt or you are flexing the tip more. 125 is not a low spin shaft so either you are delivering it differently or there's too much headweight.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 08:16 PM

View PostTollBros, on 13 January 2019 - 07:33 PM, said:

View Post300_Straight, on 13 January 2019 - 07:28 PM, said:

Today I tested the KK DC 70TX vs Rogue 125 70TX in my Epic SZ. Now, I've swung the Rogue about 50-75 swings compared to the KK, which I took about 6 or 7. So take this with a grain of salt, or at least the numbers.

The KK doesnt feel quite as stout as the Rogue, for lack of a better term. It's not loose by any means, but definitely had more kick to it. Something I will get used to I am sure. It felt a bit more tip heavy compared to the Rogue, but a great feeling shaft with a bit of kick near impact.

Initial numbers show the KK launching higher and spinning slightly more than the Rogue. Again, this is only with a few swings on it. Much more testing is needed. I also think that since it has more kick. That I am probably hitting it even lower in the face than typically, which is causing the higher launch and spin.

I will say, out of the 6 shots I think 3 were within 3 yards of dead straight. Cant wait to test it some more.

Keep in mind rogue 125 is counterbanced so you will need to remove about 4 grams from the head in the kkdcxt or you are flexing the tip more. 125 is not a low spin shaft so either you are delivering it differently or there's too much headweight.
Ah, I forgot the 125 is counterbalanced. Thanks. I'm sure the extra kick I felt was causing me to hit it just a tad lower in the face. Much more testing is needed, both in and outdoors.
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Posted 14 January 2019 - 02:36 PM

View Post300_Straight, on 13 January 2019 - 08:16 PM, said:

View PostTollBros, on 13 January 2019 - 07:33 PM, said:

View Post300_Straight, on 13 January 2019 - 07:28 PM, said:

Today I tested the KK DC 70TX vs Rogue 125 70TX in my Epic SZ. Now, I've swung the Rogue about 50-75 swings compared to the KK, which I took about 6 or 7. So take this with a grain of salt, or at least the numbers.

The KK doesnt feel quite as stout as the Rogue, for lack of a better term. It's not loose by any means, but definitely had more kick to it. Something I will get used to I am sure. It felt a bit more tip heavy compared to the Rogue, but a great feeling shaft with a bit of kick near impact.

Initial numbers show the KK launching higher and spinning slightly more than the Rogue. Again, this is only with a few swings on it. Much more testing is needed. I also think that since it has more kick. That I am probably hitting it even lower in the face than typically, which is causing the higher launch and spin.

I will say, out of the 6 shots I think 3 were within 3 yards of dead straight. Cant wait to test it some more.

Keep in mind rogue 125 is counterbanced so you will need to remove about 4 grams from the head in the kkdcxt or you are flexing the tip more. 125 is not a low spin shaft so either you are delivering it differently or there's too much headweight.
Ah, I forgot the 125 is counterbalanced. Thanks. I'm sure the extra kick I felt was causing me to hit it just a tad lower in the face. Much more testing is needed, both in and outdoors.

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:09 AM

I'm going to have a fun little head to head battle coming up soon.  F9/Diamana DF vs Max/Tour Green.
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:44 PM

View PostRosco1216, on 15 January 2019 - 10:09 AM, said:

I'm going to have a fun little head to head battle coming up soon.  F9/Diamana DF vs Max/Tour Green.

You should add another head and use the Tensei Tour AV Blue proto in that head to head to head challenge  ;-)
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:52 PM

View PostCruisin1966, on 15 January 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

View PostRosco1216, on 15 January 2019 - 10:09 AM, said:

I'm going to have a fun little head to head battle coming up soon.  F9/Diamana DF vs Max/Tour Green.

You should add another head and use the Tensei Tour AV Blue proto in that head to head to head challenge  ;-)

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