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Probably old news but I find this interesting... Miura doesn't Forge anything!!


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#1 Tzoid

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 10:11 AM

I was doing a search on who forges Irons and found this.  I imagine Chris at TSG is the author but it makes me think twice
when I see someone saying " Miura forgings are superior"  I wonder who forges them for Miura?  Thoughts?

http://blog.tourspec...cturing-part-1/


This makes it confusing and somebody is bullshitting the public

https://www.youtube....h?v=Khh0g91P2S8

Edited by Tzoid, 14 May 2017 - 10:16 AM.

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:50 PM

View PostTzoid, on 14 May 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:

I was doing a search on who forges Irons and found this.  I imagine Chris at TSG is the author but it makes me think twice
when I see someone saying " Miura forgings are superior"  I wonder who forges them for Miura?  Thoughts?

http://blog.tourspec...cturing-part-1/


This makes it confusing and somebody is bullshitting the public

https://www.youtube....h?v=Khh0g91P2S8

Yeah who knows??  If you scroll through the comments on the TSG article, the president of Miura Golf USA Adam Barr says the opposite. Case of he said, she said.

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 05:02 PM

People who know anything at all about the steel industry know most of what you hear in golf advertisement regarding the "metal" is fluff.  

GSS, 1018, grain flow, blah blah blah.

Basic metallurgy courses are kryponite to golf marketing.

The Japanese market is full of more legends than all of Greek Mythology and every Hall of Fame in the history of ever.  

Most of it is purely fluff.  All hat no cattle.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:22 AM

View Post95124hacker, on 14 May 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

View PostTzoid, on 14 May 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:

I was doing a search on who forges Irons and found this.  I imagine Chris at TSG is the author but it makes me think twice
when I see someone saying " Miura forgings are superior"  I wonder who forges them for Miura?  Thoughts?

http://blog.tourspec...cturing-part-1/


This makes it confusing and somebody is bullshitting the public

https://www.youtube....h?v=Khh0g91P2S8

Yeah who knows??  If you scroll through the comments on the TSG article, the president of Miura Golf USA Adam Barr says the opposite. Case of he said, she said.

I would think that TSG would be liable for slander or something for making such a claim unless there is some truth to it.
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Posted 15 May 2017 - 08:01 AM

Tzoid who cares we play Onoff Kuro

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 10:41 AM

Well, the article is referring to a brand that hasn't been around for 2-3 years now, so old news would be confirmed.

What Miura does in-house is what differentiates them from others who use the "same" metals. Hint: it has to do with carbon content, which is an impurity in steel.
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Posted 15 May 2017 - 12:05 PM

View PostTcann32, on 15 May 2017 - 10:41 AM, said:

Well, the article is referring to a brand that hasn't been around for 2-3 years now, so old news would be confirmed.

What Miura does in-house is what differentiates them from others who use the "same" metals. Hint: it has to do with carbon content, which is an impurity in steel.

I get that they do "something" In-House but just find it interesting when they say "Miura Forgings" are ( insert adjectives) when TSG who happens to be a dealer of JPN Miura heads publishes the information stating they source from another forging house.

Forums are to have a discussion so I would love to hear what the Miura users have to say.

Edited by Tzoid, 15 May 2017 - 12:06 PM.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 02:16 PM

That TSG articled is "Really Old sh*t and was published after TSG lost a pissing match with Miura Giken....all Miura forged heads are forged at  Miura "In house"....go visit the factory and put your mind at ease....they are more than happy to give a tour if you contact them in advance.
Just another BS article....and it is really old stuff......... Adam has not been the president of Miura for years.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 02:25 PM

View PostTzoid, on 15 May 2017 - 12:05 PM, said:

View PostTcann32, on 15 May 2017 - 10:41 AM, said:

Well, the article is referring to a brand that hasn't been around for 2-3 years now, so old news would be confirmed.

What Miura does in-house is what differentiates them from others who use the "same" metals. Hint: it has to do with carbon content, which is an impurity in steel.

I get that they do "something" In-House but just find it interesting when they say "Miura Forgings" are ( insert adjectives) when TSG who happens to be a dealer of JPN Miura heads publishes the information stating they source from another forging house.

Forums are to have a discussion so I would love to hear what the Miura users have to say.

I'm always open to discussion! Sorry if my post was condescending in undertone, as that wasn't the intent.

Miuras are different than anything else I've hit, by a long shot. They aren't super soft, but certainly not hard either. As mentioned before, carbon is an impurity in steel, and Miura's forging eliminates carbon content vs re-arranging it. It leaves you with something that doesn't feel marshmallow soft like most expect, but the feel is incredible, none the less.

To the very, very best of my knowledge, Miura does forge their iron heads in-house. It's hard to believe they don't when they spin weld the hosels and press the grooves as well.

I had heard about the Scratch forging some time ago. I have 1018 wedges and love them and it doesn't surprise me to hear that the metal might be weaker than industry standards because those wedges are soooo soft. I love it in a wedge, but they won't last more than a season or two, and I live in MN, where we only play 1/2 seasons! Lol
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Posted 15 May 2017 - 05:00 PM

View PostTcann32, on 15 May 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

View PostTzoid, on 15 May 2017 - 12:05 PM, said:

View PostTcann32, on 15 May 2017 - 10:41 AM, said:

Well, the article is referring to a brand that hasn't been around for 2-3 years now, so old news would be confirmed.

What Miura does in-house is what differentiates them from others who use the "same" metals. Hint: it has to do with carbon content, which is an impurity in steel.

I get that they do "something" In-House but just find it interesting when they say "Miura Forgings" are ( insert adjectives) when TSG who happens to be a dealer of JPN Miura heads publishes the information stating they source from another forging house.

Forums are to have a discussion so I would love to hear what the Miura users have to say.

I'm always open to discussion! Sorry if my post was condescending in undertone, as that wasn't the intent.

Miuras are different than anything else I've hit, by a long shot. They aren't super soft, but certainly not hard either. As mentioned before, carbon is an impurity in steel, and Miura's forging eliminates carbon content vs re-arranging it. It leaves you with something that doesn't feel marshmallow soft like most expect, but the feel is incredible, none the less.

To the very, very best of my knowledge, Miura does forge their iron heads in-house. It's hard to believe they don't when they spin weld the hosels and press the grooves as well.

I had heard about the Scratch forging some time ago. I have 1018 wedges and love them and it doesn't surprise me to hear that the metal might be weaker than industry standards because those wedges are soooo soft. I love it in a wedge, but they won't last more than a season or two, and I live in MN, where we only play 1/2 seasons! Lol


I have hit and owned Miura Irons for short periods of time and they are definitely solid but I prefer the feel of the OnOff - Endo forgings. I also play Scratch wedges :)

            I know that article I linked is old but found it interesting that it even exists.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:27 PM

It's the internet where you can post any nonsense you feel like....that is what TSG did years ago and there is always someone who buys into it.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 10:37 PM

View PostFLOGMR, on 15 May 2017 - 06:27 PM, said:

It's the internet where you can post any nonsense you feel like....that is what TSG did years ago and there is always someone who buys into it.

I guess Miura isn't holding a grudge over it since TSG sell Miura Giken
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