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#31 kekoa

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 06:11 PM

View Postjuniorgolf18, on 01 June 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

Lots of replies already and most are correct.  Yes, you can definitely receive stuff.  My daughter get balls, hats, gloves, shoes, clothing, pretty much anything she needs or wants.  And has two other manufacturers trying to send her stuff to switch to them.

Just got back from a major invitational tournament this week and there they got as their "tee gift" - won't mention the name of manufacturer but are really pushing into junior golf - but they got golf shirt, workout shirt, leggings, hat, towel, 4 dozen balls, running shoes, socks, belt, super nice backpack, an Amazon Echo, a $150 gift certificate and probably something else I'm forgetting.  Had to bring an extra suticase just for the loot.  2 weeks before at Sergio's tournament, they got shoes, golf shoes, shirts and new M1 or M2 Driver.  This all in addition to the free stuff they can request whenever they want it.  It's crazy.  

And at these invitationals you get a travel "reimbursement" in an amount that is determined by where you came from - distance, driving or flying etc..

Wow!!  So I assume she is a top player in the AJGA circuit?


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 06:25 PM

View Postkekoa, on 01 June 2017 - 06:11 PM, said:

View Postjuniorgolf18, on 01 June 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

Lots of replies already and most are correct.  Yes, you can definitely receive stuff.  My daughter get balls, hats, gloves, shoes, clothing, pretty much anything she needs or wants.  And has two other manufacturers trying to send her stuff to switch to them.

Just got back from a major invitational tournament this week and there they got as their "tee gift" - won't mention the name of manufacturer but are really pushing into junior golf - but they got golf shirt, workout shirt, leggings, hat, towel, 4 dozen balls, running shoes, socks, belt, super nice backpack, an Amazon Echo, a $150 gift certificate and probably something else I'm forgetting.  Had to bring an extra suticase just for the loot.  2 weeks before at Sergio's tournament, they got shoes, golf shoes, shirts and new M1 or M2 Driver.  This all in addition to the free stuff they can request whenever they want it.  It's crazy.  

And at these invitationals you get a travel "reimbursement" in an amount that is determined by where you came from - distance, driving or flying etc..

Wow!!  So I assume she is a top player in the AJGA circuit?

She's ok :) - she has won 2 AJGA Open's so far.  She works her butt off though.  She's a sophomore in high school.  And on these manufacturer deals, the reps come to these big tournaments and watch you, not as much your play as your demeanor, how you act, etc... All the contracts you sign to get this stuff, have behavior clauses.

I also replied to your comment on the AJGA/College discussion about when to get your kid out there.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 06:55 PM

As a competitive junior player (1990-1995) I was sponsored by three local golf clubs and got "heavily discounted" merchandise from companies who rhyme with RING, SpiDooNo, Pie Zod, Pax Bye and Bake Dies

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 10:39 PM

For FULL sponsorship girls usually have to be ranked very very high.  Like top 30 polo rankings.  For Boys either in JGS, Polo, or Golfweek they should be ranked inside the top 250 to be "considered".  Shoes Balls Gloves and discounted clubs threshold is much higher however.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 10:51 PM

View Poststehan, on 01 June 2017 - 10:39 PM, said:

For FULL sponsorship girls usually have to be ranked very very high.  Like top 30 polo rankings.  For Boys either in JGS, Polo, or Golfweek they should be ranked inside the top 250 to be "considered".  Shoes Balls Gloves and discounted clubs threshold is much higher however.

Boys yes.  Inside 250 and you get some stuff. The discounted club rate with one particular top ball maker ;) changes to higher discount the higher you rank.  But never free.  Some club manufacturers give clubs free.

Girls, I know many girls that are ranked in the 100's that get shoes, balls, gloves, hats, discounted clubs. Same with discounted clubs scale for girls. And again, some club companies give them clubs depending on rank.



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 06:46 AM

In response to Juniorgolf18.. I stressed FULLY sponsored.  Shoe ball glove deals are relatively much easier to get of course.  I called a major manufacturer whom we have a relationship with on behalf of a Junior girl who was ranked 54th at the time.  They told me they would put her on their "radar".

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 09:01 AM

It sounds like all of these discounts and free stuff starts when you are in high school. I'm not hearing many of you talking about younger kids getting all the free stuff. I coached high school golf for 15 years and I know high school and college kids get discounts on clubs, balls, merchandise, etc. Cobra and Taylormade have high school discounts programs and the discounts range between 25-40%. Callaway used to have a discount program but now you have to go through the area rep. Titleist has a great program for high schools on bags, balls, and hats. Ping has a good program as well for golf bags only. They don't do anything on clubs until kids get to college. Bushnell and Leupold have discount programs on range finders for high schools as well. This is for all high schools and their players, not just select ones.

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 09:25 AM

View PostGolfingdawg19, on 09 June 2017 - 09:01 AM, said:

It sounds like all of these discounts and free stuff starts when you are in high school. I'm not hearing many of you talking about younger kids getting all the free stuff. I coached high school golf for 15 years and I know high school and college kids get discounts on clubs, balls, merchandise, etc. Cobra and Taylormade have high school discounts programs and the discounts range between 25-40%. Callaway used to have a discount program but now you have to go through the area rep. Titleist has a great program for high schools on bags, balls, and hats. Ping has a good program as well for golf bags only. They don't do anything on clubs until kids get to college. Bushnell and Leupold have discount programs on range finders for high schools as well. This is for all high schools and their players, not just select ones.

If you put up numbers, you can get a deal.  I know several 11 and 12 year olds that have deals.  One lives with me.

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 11:30 AM

View Poststehan, on 09 June 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:

In response to Juniorgolf18.. I stressed FULLY sponsored.  Shoe ball glove deals are relatively much easier to get of course.  I called a major manufacturer whom we have a relationship with on behalf of a Junior girl who was ranked 54th at the time.  They told me they would put her on their "radar".

True. We didn't get ALL the gear till she hit top 30.  Now they want to bring you in to HQ and fit you, etc etc.

Top 150 and under will get you, like you said, balls, gloves, discount or free shoes, hats and discounted clubs with certain companies.

Edited by juniorgolf18, 09 June 2017 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 09 June 2017 - 11:40 AM

View PostAC168, on 16 May 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

If you are good and 14 or over, you should get at least 40% off or free if you are very good.
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Posted 15 September 2017 - 12:55 AM

Would you all stop calling it "sponsors" or "sponsorships?" That is so wrong and sounds terrible. Juniors cannot be sponsored, it breaks basically every rule in the amateur status book.

Junior's may receive clubs, clothes, accessories, etc. from companies free of charge. It is not breaking any amateur status laws in any way. But, juniors may not receive monetary prizes or money for advertising or "pushing" a certain company.

There is really no say on what you need to be ranked to receive clubs, balls, etc. If junior representatives from companies see someone they like or someone they feel that are currently or could do big things down the road, they will most likely reach out and try to get you to be a part of their "junior team" or "junior staff".

Every company has their requirements. Titleist, Nike, and Callaway probably being the most harsh on "brand loyalty". With companies such as Taylormade and Cleveland/Srixon being a little more laid back. In the end they want you to play your best, (obviously with their equipment) and be excited to be a part of their "team".

The better you play the more you will receive and more perks you will get, I.e. Circle T's and paid trips to get fitted.

Well that's about all I have to say.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 06:39 PM

View Postwrxman, on 15 September 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Would you all stop calling it "sponsors" or "sponsorships?" That is so wrong and sounds terrible. Juniors cannot be sponsored, it breaks basically every rule in the amateur status book.

Junior's may receive clubs, clothes, accessories, etc. from companies free of charge. It is not breaking any amateur status laws in any way. But, juniors may not receive monetary prizes or money for advertising or "pushing" a certain company.

There is really no say on what you need to be ranked to receive clubs, balls, etc. If junior representatives from companies see someone they like or someone they feel that are currently or could do big things down the road, they will most likely reach out and try to get you to be a part of their "junior team" or "junior staff".

Every company has their requirements. Titleist, Nike, and Callaway probably being the most harsh on "brand loyalty". With companies such as Taylormade and Cleveland/Srixon being a little more laid back. In the end they want you to play your best, (obviously with their equipment) and be excited to be a part of their "team".

The better you play the more you will receive and more perks you will get, I.e. Circle T's and paid trips to get fitted.

Well that's about all I have to say.

As always, all the best,
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I will say it.  Karl Villips is sponsored by Taylormade.  

They do sponsor Juniors.  Sponsors can't pay them directly.  They can give them free equipment, balls, cloth, and even pay for travel.  That is a sponsorship no matter how you look at it.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 06:45 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

View Postwrxman, on 15 September 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Would you all stop calling it "sponsors" or "sponsorships?" That is so wrong and sounds terrible. Juniors cannot be sponsored, it breaks basically every rule in the amateur status book.

Junior's may receive clubs, clothes, accessories, etc. from companies free of charge. It is not breaking any amateur status laws in any way. But, juniors may not receive monetary prizes or money for advertising or "pushing" a certain company.

There is really no say on what you need to be ranked to receive clubs, balls, etc. If junior representatives from companies see someone they like or someone they feel that are currently or could do big things down the road, they will most likely reach out and try to get you to be a part of their "junior team" or "junior staff".

Every company has their requirements. Titleist, Nike, and Callaway probably being the most harsh on "brand loyalty". With companies such as Taylormade and Cleveland/Srixon being a little more laid back. In the end they want you to play your best, (obviously with their equipment) and be excited to be a part of their "team".

The better you play the more you will receive and more perks you will get, I.e. Circle T's and paid trips to get fitted.

Well that's about all I have to say.

As always, all the best,
Dom

I will say it.  Karl Villips is sponsored by Taylormade.  

They do sponsor Juniors.  Sponsors can't pay them directly.  They can give them free equipment, balls, cloth, and even pay for travel.  That is a sponsorship no matter how you look at it.
That's just stuff though. He's not getting a paycheck.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 09:17 PM

View Postleezer99, on 15 September 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

View Postwrxman, on 15 September 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Would you all stop calling it "sponsors" or "sponsorships?" That is so wrong and sounds terrible. Juniors cannot be sponsored, it breaks basically every rule in the amateur status book.

Junior's may receive clubs, clothes, accessories, etc. from companies free of charge. It is not breaking any amateur status laws in any way. But, juniors may not receive monetary prizes or money for advertising or "pushing" a certain company.

There is really no say on what you need to be ranked to receive clubs, balls, etc. If junior representatives from companies see someone they like or someone they feel that are currently or could do big things down the road, they will most likely reach out and try to get you to be a part of their "junior team" or "junior staff".

Every company has their requirements. Titleist, Nike, and Callaway probably being the most harsh on "brand loyalty". With companies such as Taylormade and Cleveland/Srixon being a little more laid back. In the end they want you to play your best, (obviously with their equipment) and be excited to be a part of their "team".

The better you play the more you will receive and more perks you will get, I.e. Circle T's and paid trips to get fitted.

Well that's about all I have to say.

As always, all the best,
Dom

I will say it.  Karl Villips is sponsored by Taylormade.  

They do sponsor Juniors.  Sponsors can't pay them directly.  They can give them free equipment, balls, cloth, and even pay for travel.  That is a sponsorship no matter how you look at it.
That's just stuff though. He's not getting a paycheck.

sponorship not always about getting a check. They are sponoring you by giving you free stuff, paying for your travel. We have sponorships for my daughter softball team... do they pay us, no buy they buy gear and offset travel. Its still a sponorship at the end of the day.  Its splitting hairs to call it anything else.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 09:56 PM

View Postleezer99, on 15 September 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

View Postwrxman, on 15 September 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Would you all stop calling it "sponsors" or "sponsorships?" That is so wrong and sounds terrible. Juniors cannot be sponsored, it breaks basically every rule in the amateur status book.

Junior's may receive clubs, clothes, accessories, etc. from companies free of charge. It is not breaking any amateur status laws in any way. But, juniors may not receive monetary prizes or money for advertising or "pushing" a certain company.

There is really no say on what you need to be ranked to receive clubs, balls, etc. If junior representatives from companies see someone they like or someone they feel that are currently or could do big things down the road, they will most likely reach out and try to get you to be a part of their "junior team" or "junior staff".

Every company has their requirements. Titleist, Nike, and Callaway probably being the most harsh on "brand loyalty". With companies such as Taylormade and Cleveland/Srixon being a little more laid back. In the end they want you to play your best, (obviously with their equipment) and be excited to be a part of their "team".

The better you play the more you will receive and more perks you will get, I.e. Circle T's and paid trips to get fitted.

Well that's about all I have to say.

As always, all the best,
Dom

I will say it.  Karl Villips is sponsored by Taylormade.  

They do sponsor Juniors.  Sponsors can't pay them directly.  They can give them free equipment, balls, cloth, and even pay for travel.  That is a sponsorship no matter how you look at it.
That's just stuff though. He's not getting a paycheck.

Nike sponsors University of Tennessee.   Nike gives them no money.  They give them free goods in a cash amount to spend at retail pricing in exchange for them buying certain custom cloth products and footwear.  Is that not a sponsorship?


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Posted 16 September 2017 - 12:12 AM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 15 September 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

View Postwrxman, on 15 September 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Would you all stop calling it "sponsors" or "sponsorships?" That is so wrong and sounds terrible. Juniors cannot be sponsored, it breaks basically every rule in the amateur status book.

Junior's may receive clubs, clothes, accessories, etc. from companies free of charge. It is not breaking any amateur status laws in any way. But, juniors may not receive monetary prizes or money for advertising or "pushing" a certain company.

There is really no say on what you need to be ranked to receive clubs, balls, etc. If junior representatives from companies see someone they like or someone they feel that are currently or could do big things down the road, they will most likely reach out and try to get you to be a part of their "junior team" or "junior staff".

Every company has their requirements. Titleist, Nike, and Callaway probably being the most harsh on "brand loyalty". With companies such as Taylormade and Cleveland/Srixon being a little more laid back. In the end they want you to play your best, (obviously with their equipment) and be excited to be a part of their "team".

The better you play the more you will receive and more perks you will get, I.e. Circle T's and paid trips to get fitted.

Well that's about all I have to say.

As always, all the best,
Dom

I will say it.  Karl Villips is sponsored by Taylormade.  

They do sponsor Juniors.  Sponsors can't pay them directly.  They can give them free equipment, balls, cloth, and even pay for travel.  That is a sponsorship no matter how you look at it.
That's just stuff though. He's not getting a paycheck.

Nike sponsors University of Tennessee.   Nike gives them no money.  They give them free goods in a cash amount to spend at retail pricing in exchange for them buying certain custom cloth products and footwear.  Is that not a sponsorship?

Taylormade does not Sponsor Karl Vilips, a sponsorship means the athlete gets paid. Nike also doesn't sponsor the University of Tennessee. Nike may be the official brand of UT but they must pay the university in order to sponsor them.

Sponsors for golf outings either pay the golf outing or donate to it, PGA Tour players are payed to be sponsored.

I don't feel this is a very hard concept to grasp.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 07:58 AM

View Postwrxman, on 16 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 15 September 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

View Postwrxman, on 15 September 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Would you all stop calling it "sponsors" or "sponsorships?" That is so wrong and sounds terrible. Juniors cannot be sponsored, it breaks basically every rule in the amateur status book.

Junior's may receive clubs, clothes, accessories, etc. from companies free of charge. It is not breaking any amateur status laws in any way. But, juniors may not receive monetary prizes or money for advertising or "pushing" a certain company.

There is really no say on what you need to be ranked to receive clubs, balls, etc. If junior representatives from companies see someone they like or someone they feel that are currently or could do big things down the road, they will most likely reach out and try to get you to be a part of their "junior team" or "junior staff".

Every company has their requirements. Titleist, Nike, and Callaway probably being the most harsh on "brand loyalty". With companies such as Taylormade and Cleveland/Srixon being a little more laid back. In the end they want you to play your best, (obviously with their equipment) and be excited to be a part of their "team".

The better you play the more you will receive and more perks you will get, I.e. Circle T's and paid trips to get fitted.

Well that's about all I have to say.

As always, all the best,
Dom

I will say it.  Karl Villips is sponsored by Taylormade.  

They do sponsor Juniors.  Sponsors can't pay them directly.  They can give them free equipment, balls, cloth, and even pay for travel.  That is a sponsorship no matter how you look at it.
That's just stuff though. He's not getting a paycheck.

Nike sponsors University of Tennessee.   Nike gives them no money.  They give them free goods in a cash amount to spend at retail pricing in exchange for them buying certain custom cloth products and footwear.  Is that not a sponsorship?

Taylormade does not Sponsor Karl Vilips, a sponsorship means the athlete gets paid. Nike also doesn't sponsor the University of Tennessee. Nike may be the official brand of UT but they must pay the university in order to sponsor them.

Sponsors for golf outings either pay the golf outing or donate to it, PGA Tour players are payed to be sponsored.

I don't feel this is a very hard concept to grasp.

As always, all the best,
Dom

sponsorship doesn't mean they get paid. It is defined as financial support, they are supporting the young golfer by providing him free gear, clothing travel, everything but a paycheck. That is a form of sponsorship.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 05:06 PM

View Postwrxman, on 16 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 15 September 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 15 September 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

View Postwrxman, on 15 September 2017 - 12:55 AM, said:

Would you all stop calling it "sponsors" or "sponsorships?" That is so wrong and sounds terrible. Juniors cannot be sponsored, it breaks basically every rule in the amateur status book.

Junior's may receive clubs, clothes, accessories, etc. from companies free of charge. It is not breaking any amateur status laws in any way. But, juniors may not receive monetary prizes or money for advertising or "pushing" a certain company.

There is really no say on what you need to be ranked to receive clubs, balls, etc. If junior representatives from companies see someone they like or someone they feel that are currently or could do big things down the road, they will most likely reach out and try to get you to be a part of their "junior team" or "junior staff".

Every company has their requirements. Titleist, Nike, and Callaway probably being the most harsh on "brand loyalty". With companies such as Taylormade and Cleveland/Srixon being a little more laid back. In the end they want you to play your best, (obviously with their equipment) and be excited to be a part of their "team".

The better you play the more you will receive and more perks you will get, I.e. Circle T's and paid trips to get fitted.

Well that's about all I have to say.

As always, all the best,
Dom

I will say it.  Karl Villips is sponsored by Taylormade.  

They do sponsor Juniors.  Sponsors can't pay them directly.  They can give them free equipment, balls, cloth, and even pay for travel.  That is a sponsorship no matter how you look at it.
That's just stuff though. He's not getting a paycheck.

Nike sponsors University of Tennessee.   Nike gives them no money.  They give them free goods in a cash amount to spend at retail pricing in exchange for them buying certain custom cloth products and footwear.  Is that not a sponsorship?

Taylormade does not Sponsor Karl Vilips, a sponsorship means the athlete gets paid. Nike also doesn't sponsor the University of Tennessee. Nike may be the official brand of UT but they must pay the university in order to sponsor them.

Sponsors for golf outings either pay the golf outing or donate to it, PGA Tour players are payed to be sponsored.

I don't feel this is a very hard concept to grasp.

As always, all the best,
Dom

Sponsorsip has nothing to do with getting paid.  

Here is the definition for you.

Sponsoring something (or someone) is the act of supporting an event, activity, person, or organization financially or through the provision of products or services. The individual or group that provides the support, similar to a benefactor, is known as sponsor.

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 10:52 AM

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I wasn't the best in college, but decent enough to get equipment and shoes and apparel. It's a super nice perk, something that I worked hard for. Only regret is not taking advantage of it, I only switched drivers once in college. Never changed fairway wood or hybrids. As for irons I only changed once, even then it was just a fresh set. Wedges I changed to new models. I knew some people that changed every chance they had...idk I kinda think it paid dividends for me now, because I kept in touch with my contact and he offers every now and then some equipment. My buddies say they have been shut out entirely.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:42 AM

View PostNoles, on 12 May 2017 - 10:48 AM, said:

View PostPhunkyPhil, on 12 May 2017 - 09:56 AM, said:

Karl Vilips is 15 and he is sponsored by Taylormade for clubs and Adidas for clothes, he has been sponsored by Mizuno when he was much younger too.
How does that not effect his amateur status and NCAA eligibility?
He is on the TaylorMade junior golf program. NOT a sponsorship. TM/adidas gives him clothes, balls, clubs, etc. because he has demonstrated that he is an elite junior golfer. The idea is that one day he could turn pro and stay loyal to TM and THEN generate revenue as a marketable player. He hasn't made a dime off of the junior golf program unless you consider that he's saving money on clubs

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:55 AM

View Postethanshapiro, on 28 September 2017 - 10:42 AM, said:

View PostNoles, on 12 May 2017 - 10:48 AM, said:

View PostPhunkyPhil, on 12 May 2017 - 09:56 AM, said:

Karl Vilips is 15 and he is sponsored by Taylormade for clubs and Adidas for clothes, he has been sponsored by Mizuno when he was much younger too.
How does that not effect his amateur status and NCAA eligibility?
He is on the TaylorMade junior golf program. NOT a sponsorship. TM/adidas gives him clothes, balls, clubs, etc. because he has demonstrated that he is an elite junior golfer. The idea is that one day he could turn pro and stay loyal to TM and THEN generate revenue as a marketable player. He hasn't made a dime off of the junior golf program unless you consider that he's saving money on clubs

By definition, that is a sponsorship.

In fact, that is only part of the idea.  He is given this sponsorship to influence other kids he is playing with and against now.

Edited by heavy_hitter, 28 September 2017 - 12:59 PM.


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