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#121 ssfranny

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 09:23 PM

Why would anyone want to hit their irons farther?   Well at 150 out If rather hit an 8 iron with my CF16s rather than a easy 6 with a set of MP 53s  Mizunos are buttery soft but very short distance wise.


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Posted 12 May 2017 - 09:56 PM

Me likey!!!! Combo set would be awesome.  I wonder if one would be able to get them through YORO craft.  Giving my wife ideas as to which YORO crafted Mizunos I want for my retirement gift.
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Posted 14 May 2017 - 07:08 PM

View Postkejoal11, on 12 May 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

Me likey!!!! Combo set would be awesome.  I wonder if one would be able to get them through YORO craft.  Giving my wife ideas as to which YORO crafted Mizunos I want for my retirement gift.

From some of the rumors going around, they may only be available through Yoro.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 11:18 AM

View Postssfranny, on 12 May 2017 - 09:23 PM, said:

Why would anyone want to hit their irons farther?   Well at 150 out If rather hit an 8 iron with my CF16s rather than a easy 6 with a set of MP 53s  Mizunos are buttery soft but very short distance wise.


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Are they actually "very short" distance-wise? I mean, considering like for like lofts? I haven't really seen any of that but then again I've been playing Mizzy for years. I'm not challenging you. I'm genuinely curious. I'm currently playing MP59s.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 11:34 AM

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View Postdalton044, on 07 May 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

GF is probably grain flow and HD I would think is High Density
I know the GF forged part but it has me guessing the maybe the shinny stripe on both 18's are maybe a co forged metal like the 58, 59 and 15's. I'm sure its not but strange not to keep it simple if not something new. Please don't be a boron anything though. Please.

It could very well be some sort of tungsten on the sole. I think everyone has made the boron thing out to be more than it actually is
I don't know. I'm on my 3rd set of MP-25's all with different shafts just to be sure. The 25's are some of the nicest and more compact Mizuno irons for Lefties ever made. The softest, IMHO, they are not. Still very good irons, but not MP 68 soft.

You ever play the mp-19's?  I played them back in the day and they were pretty sweet.  Not the best sole for my swing, but just remember a good strike feeling awesome.  I play the 25's now, but am coming from some game improvement irons, these are great.  I'd agree that they aren't as soft as my older Mizzy's, but that might just be my poor memory.

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 04:39 PM

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View Postkejoal11, on 12 May 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

Me likey!!!! Combo set would be awesome.  I wonder if one would be able to get them through YORO craft.  Giving my wife ideas as to which YORO crafted Mizunos I want for my retirement gift.

From some of the rumors going around, they may only be available through Yoro.

What? I really hope that's not the case.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 07:48 AM

View PostWarrick, on 09 May 2017 - 01:55 AM, said:

View Postssfranny, on 08 May 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

Yeah finally get rid of that harsh feeling GF Boron so the SC has GF Forged HD yet the S18 is GF Forged Boron?
It has more to do with the head design than the boron....
Aside from Mizzy's cast/forged "test" with their Staffers back in 2011, and granted I've only spoken to two design engineers(one from Mizzy, one from Staff) so it's not like I've talked to a significant number, though the Mizzy guy was the #2 guy on the 87's and lead designer on the 37's, and both said that head design was more critical to the "feel" of a club than material with the advent and evolution of today's machining processes. Also, the few Plus Ams/Pros that I've spoken to that have hit the 25's, to a man(well, and one woman, lol), said the 25's were nice irons, though two of the five mentioned "flyers," which I haven't heard since the 58/59/15's and they all mentioned the head design regarding the feel.

Madison, who ended up going with the Staff 100 Tours, thought that the feel/sound of the 25's was similar to the Staff Fg Tour V6's, Staff's Player's MCB, a "crisper(firmer)" feel/sound, which she doesn't have feelings about one way or the other cuz she thought that the 100's felt "crisper" than the 5's.

Anyhoo, my point is that while someone may not like the 25's, think they're trash, yada yada yada, I just chuckle cuz nowhere else do we here these kind of comments regarding the material, i.e., boron. Not in the press, not from the Tour Boys and Girls that hit em and commented, not from any Players locally that any of us may have spoken to and not from Mizzy, which is not known for flippantly and frivolously changing and/or introducing something new into their line-up. I don't recall hearing these kind of comments about the 58/59's, and I thought those irons just plain friggin sucked(They set a whole new bar for me ragrding the definition of a "flyer," lol)

Nada...

Nil..

Nothing...

Oh well, thank the good Lord that Mizzy has a plethora of irons for the guys to belt around and hopefully everyone finds one to their liking :)

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 07:56 PM

Is there a release date for these babies?

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 10:02 PM

View Posttr881430, on 21 May 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

Is there a release date for these babies?

September

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 09:44 AM

View PostForged4ever, on 09 May 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

Ok, I'm sick of hearin "thank god, no boron," lol

I have not hit my 25's yet so I can't compare them to my 68's and even when I'm able to swing, it's gonna be a hell of a different swing from the last time that I swung a club so I really won't be the yardstick to speak of the differences between the two irons.

Obviously there will be the difference in that the 68 is a blade and the 25 is a MCB, however for those of you that PLAY a Mizzy blade, regardless of the model, what is the difference between your present blade and the boron steel iron, feel wise?

I'm not lookin for a wagon jumper but someone who actually BAGS and PLAYS/PLAYED a Mizzy BLADE-

Also, is there anyone that likes the 25's and why so?

Thanks much🍻

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 11:30 AM

View PostForged4ever, on 09 May 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

Ok, I'm sick of hearin "thank god, no boron," lol

I have not hit my 25's yet so I can't compare them to my 68's and even when I'm able to swing, it's gonna be a hell of a different swing from the last time that I swung a club so I really won't be the yardstick to speak of the differences between the two irons.

Obviously there will be the difference in that the 68 is a blade and the 25 is a MCB, however for those of you that PLAY a Mizzy blade, regardless of the model, what is the difference between your present blade and the boron steel iron, feel wise?

I'm not lookin for a wagon jumper but someone who actually BAGS and PLAYS/PLAYED a Mizzy BLADE-

Also, is there anyone that likes the 25's and why so?

Thanks much��

Have a great day/evening��
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I swapped out my MP-4s for the 25s,  Feel is different for sure.  but that's just it, different,  not better or worse imo.   I do find the 25's to be doing exactly what i was/am looking for, which is a bit higher ball flight and more forgiveness

- plus i feel like I can go after the ball with a smother tempo.  turf interaction is great on the 25s

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:03 PM

The cb design is one of the oldest currently used.....i blade has their version but i certainly wouldnt say mizzy copied them....they are all copies of designs from years ago.....everyone just tweaks it a bit

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:26 PM

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View PostBritboy, on 11 May 2017 - 05:40 AM, said:

Richard I bought the MP-25s to replace my 825 pros. Seemed like a no-brainer  as they are gorgeous looking and came with my fitted shaft of choice as standard (PX 5.5). The problem for me is that for some reason they launched quite a bit higher than my 825 pros and I lost distance and confidence playing in the wind. I've struggled to replace my 825 pros since so I haven't. That said I tried the JPX 900 forged with the Recoil shafts recently and they were awesome. Surprisingly they launched a degree lower than my Pros and increased ball speed by 5mph on the 6 iron. Feel great, look awesome just can't justify the coin at this moment :)
I hit my 54s way too high and lost distance as well.  Windy golf days in the spring and fall were killing me!  I switched to the 900 forged with C taper Lite X shafts and love them.  I get lower ball flight with tons of distance and forgiveness.  Feel off the face is Mizuno soft with a little bit of a spring due to the face being so thin.  Awesome feeling in my opinion!  For me they are perfect.  Last night I hit a 5 iron to pin 215 out and backed it up 5 feet.  No way on earth I could have done that with The 54s. The mp 54/mp 25 lineage seems to fit consistent ball strikers with low swing speeds who need to get ball in air but want a players iron look.  That's why they make so many models of golf clubs because everyone's swing is different!

I beg to differ. I'm 96 on the Mizuno optimizer and the 54's are one of the best irons I've ever hit, definitely not high and not for slow swingers. I hit them the same height and distance as my MP5's, but the 5's feel a touch better. 900 forged are 3* stronger in 6 iron. Still play 54 in 4 iron and 3 iron (bent to 19*) with my 5's b/c 4 iron is my favorite club in the bag. Amazes me the people who say the 54 irons lack distance. In 6 iron it was equal to the JPX850 forged, even though 850 was stronger lifted. Only 5 yards behind 900 forged which is 3* stronger.
i had no distance issues with mp54....had 3 sets and if anything picked up few yds...and am slower smooth swinger who hits ball fairly low...

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 12:10 PM

View PostZurb, on 15 May 2017 - 11:18 AM, said:

View Postssfranny, on 12 May 2017 - 09:23 PM, said:

Why would anyone want to hit their irons farther?   Well at 150 out If rather hit an 8 iron with my CF16s rather than a easy 6 with a set of MP 53s  Mizunos are buttery soft but very short distance wise.


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Are they actually "very short" distance-wise? I mean, considering like for like lofts? I haven't really seen any of that but then again I've been playing Mizzy for years. I'm not challenging you. I'm genuinely curious. I'm currently playing MP59s.


I had several sets of MP 54s and know buddies who gamed them as well theyre short but no shorter than say a MP 53.  I think 59s may have been longer due to mass behind sweetspot.  I know when I first got 54s I had a set of MP 68 blades and I hit those farther with same shaft.

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 12:11 PM

Frankly I hope Mizuno (are you listening Chris Voshall) brings the MP 55 to the US.  MP feel and  theyre stronger lofted and will kick the CF16s out of many players bags.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 08:05 PM

I'll take a set or two!

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 08:06 AM

View Postssfranny, on 29 May 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:

Frankly I hope Mizuno (are you listening Chris Voshall) brings the MP 55 to the US.  MP feel and  theyre stronger lofted and will kick the CF16s out of many players bags.

I'm listening ssfranny! ha!
The hope is to do you one better than that. Keep waiting!

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 08:10 AM

View Postssfranny, on 29 May 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:

Frankly I hope Mizuno (are you listening Chris Voshall) brings the MP 55 to the US.  MP feel and  theyre stronger lofted and will kick the CF16s out of many players bags.

The 900F fits that spot very well and feels wonderful, regardless of what anyone wants to say about the Boron.
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Posted 06 June 2017 - 09:16 AM

I know it's hard to keep innovating with so many Iron makers but these look very close to the MP-18 SC .

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 10:38 PM

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Man do those look a lot like bridgestones

everything looks like everything anymore.

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Posted 07 June 2017 - 11:01 PM

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It's a Mizzy MCB  for chrissakes, not a TBaG neon iron�� Not everyone slaps badges and writing all over the faceback-

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 12:02 AM

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 09:50 AM

View Postgrm24, on 07 June 2017 - 11:01 PM, said:

View PostForged4ever, on 08 May 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:

It's a Mizzy MCB  for chrissakes, not a TBaG neon iron�� Not everyone slaps badges and writing all over the faceback-

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 12:13 PM

I've always been a huge Mizuno iron follower and these look fantastic. I've been gaming the Srixon Z745's but these new MP18's will probably steal the show and I will definitely pick up a set.

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:11 PM

Has there been any news on the release date of the MP18?


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:47 PM

View PostProjectX_Mizuno, on 08 June 2017 - 06:11 PM, said:

Has there been any news on the release date of the MP18?

September for release of new MP line.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:24 PM

View PostForged4ever, on 17 May 2017 - 07:48 AM, said:

View PostWarrick, on 09 May 2017 - 01:55 AM, said:

View Postssfranny, on 08 May 2017 - 11:14 PM, said:

Yeah finally get rid of that harsh feeling GF Boron so the SC has GF Forged HD yet the S18 is GF Forged Boron?
It has more to do with the head design than the boron....
Aside from Mizzy's cast/forged "test" with their Staffers back in 2011, and granted I've only spoken to two design engineers(one from Mizzy, one from Staff) so it's not like I've talked to a significant number, though the Mizzy guy was the #2 guy on the 87's and lead designer on the 37's, and both said that head design was more critical to the "feel" of a club than material with the advent and evolution of today's machining processes. Also, the few Plus Ams/Pros that I've spoken to that have hit the 25's, to a man(well, and one woman, lol), said the 25's were nice irons, though two of the five mentioned "flyers," which I haven't heard since the 58/59/15's and they all mentioned the head design regarding the feel.

Madison, who ended up going with the Staff 100 Tours, thought that the feel/sound of the 25's was similar to the Staff Fg Tour V6's, Staff's Player's MCB, a "crisper(firmer)" feel/sound, which she doesn't have feelings about one way or the other cuz she thought that the 100's felt "crisper" than the 5's.

Anyhoo, my point is that while someone may not like the 25's, think they're trash, yada yada yada, I just chuckle cuz nowhere else do we here these kind of comments regarding the material, i.e., boron. Not in the press, not from the Tour Boys and Girls that hit em and commented, not from any Players locally that any of us may have spoken to and not from Mizzy, which is not known for flippantly and frivolously changing and/or introducing something new into their line-up. I don't recall hearing these kind of comments about the 58/59's, and I thought those irons just plain friggin sucked(They set a whole new bar for me ragrding the definition of a "flyer," lol)

Nada...

Nil..

Nothing...

Oh well, thank the good Lord that Mizzy has a plethora of irons for the guys to belt around and hopefully everyone finds one to their liking :)

Just my .03 of course☺️

Stay well my Friends��
RP

Hey RP, I've had the 25's in the bag for over a year now and 100+ rounds. After 10 years of playing 2-3 times per year, I got back into golf like an addict...and the MP-25 was the perfect fit to replace my circa 1999 Titleist DCI 990's. Yeah, 1999!. After putting them through the paces I can confirm the things I loved about them from the start hold true today - forgiveness, workability, forgiving turf interaction from the slightly-thicker-than-a-true-blade sole.

Now that I'm striking them in the middle of the face for the most part, I can start nitpicking right? I'd like to see a slightly lighter head weight and a slimmer topline. A slightly lower traj. I imagine those changes would also reduce the forgiveness on those mediocre strikes, but we're all looking for that perfect iron that does it all. The MP-18SC looks really nice to me so I'll probably give them a try in the Fall. I can tell you I won't be trading in my 25's though, because they are just a crazy good iron. It sounds like the safest possible iron choice for you, as it was for me when I decided to get back into it.

Hope that helps, and wish you the best of luck. Cheers!
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#148 Adam Billmeyer

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:30 PM

View Postssfranny, on 12 May 2017 - 09:23 PM, said:

Why would anyone want to hit their irons farther?   Well at 150 out If rather hit an 8 iron with my CF16s rather than a easy 6 with a set of MP 53s  Mizunos are buttery soft but very short distance wise.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:14 PM

View Postgrm24, on 07 June 2017 - 11:01 PM, said:

View PostForged4ever, on 08 May 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:


It's a Mizzy MCB  for chrissakes, not a TBaG neon iron�� Not everyone slaps badges and writing all over the faceback-

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:51 PM

View Postgrm24, on 07 June 2017 - 11:01 PM, said:

View PostForged4ever, on 08 May 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:


It's a Mizzy MCB  for chrissakes, not a TBaG neon iron😜

Not everyone slaps badges and writing all over the faceback-

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😂😂😂😂

These are an abomination😜😜

However I know a guy that gamed em and he loves em and they really have helped his iron game, especially his 5-6i's

Have a great week🍻

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