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#1 Bdog17

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 09:59 PM

Can anyone tell me are they still planning on closing the Wynn Golf Course?


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 07:04 AM

Yes. It is the site for the proposed Wynn Paradise Park which will break ground this year. Rumours are they will close 9 holes in October and the other 9 next April.
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Posted 26 April 2017 - 12:32 AM

thanks for that.

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 04:47 PM

Just read that construction will start at the end of the year, Nov. or Dec.  

The article didn't say whether or not all 18 holes or just nine will be closed.  Plans call for a 20 acre white sand water lagoon with boardwalk, cabanas, restaurants and plans for another tower with around 1000 rooms along with meeting spaces and convention rooms. Boating, paragliding, and a Disneyland-type water show only bigger is also planned.

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 02:21 PM

Normally I hate to see any course close but I say "Good riddance" to this one. The green fees were ridiculous plus the people working the pro shop were rude and acted like they were doing you a favor to let you play there.


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 03:09 PM

Not everything is meant to be affordable by everybody.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 08:33 AM

Don't know if it's still in the plan or not, but there was talk a couple months ago about them putting in a "TopGolf on steroids," whatever that means.

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 11:55 PM

View Postjgonz69, on 02 September 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Not everything is meant to be affordable by everybody.

but that's why it is closing down. Not everything that's unaffordable to everyone is meant to succeed also

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:34 AM

View PostTerrapinGolfer, on 06 September 2017 - 11:55 PM, said:

View Postjgonz69, on 02 September 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Not everything is meant to be affordable by everybody.

but that's why it is closing down. Not everything that's unaffordable to everyone is meant to succeed also
Then why does shadow creek stay open when they can only have a handful of rounds of play or less in a day?
Things that happen in Vegas don't reflect what happens in the real world.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:14 AM

View PostTerrapinGolfer, on 06 September 2017 - 11:55 PM, said:

View Postjgonz69, on 02 September 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Not everything is meant to be affordable by everybody.

but that's why it is closing down. Not everything that's unaffordable to everyone is meant to succeed also

I wouldn't say the Wynn course didn't succeed. Having an expensive, exclusive golf course doesn't necessarily mean you have something thats profitable. For Wynn, it might have been a losing proposition on the golf side over the years but if it occasionally brings whales into the casino - who cares, the money you're losing on golf operations is paltry compared to what they may drop in the baccarat pits. IMO its closing down moreso because he can make exponentially *more* money by having some kind of water park on steroids there.

Being able to make more on Option B doesn't mean Option A wasn't successful.

Shadow Creek stays open I'm guessing in part because of the location too. You're not building a successful tourist attraction up there.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 08:21 AM

View Postjgonz69, on 07 September 2017 - 01:34 AM, said:

View PostTerrapinGolfer, on 06 September 2017 - 11:55 PM, said:

View Postjgonz69, on 02 September 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Not everything is meant to be affordable by everybody.

but that's why it is closing down. Not everything that's unaffordable to everyone is meant to succeed also
Then why does shadow creek stay open when they can only have a handful of rounds of play or less in a day?
Things that happen in Vegas don't reflect what happens in the real world.

Shadow creek has built a name for itself. People go there all the time. The golf course at wynn is barely talked about as much as shadow creek.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:52 PM

View Postjgonz69, on 07 September 2017 - 01:34 AM, said:

View PostTerrapinGolfer, on 06 September 2017 - 11:55 PM, said:

View Postjgonz69, on 02 September 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Not everything is meant to be affordable by everybody.

but that's why it is closing down. Not everything that's unaffordable to everyone is meant to succeed also
Then why does shadow creek stay open when they can only have a handful of rounds of play or less in a day?
Things that happen in Vegas don't reflect what happens in the real world.

The reason why Shadow Creek stays open is because they don't care about revenue. Even my caddy confirmed this. It's an oasis/getaway for high rollers and ballers to play in solitude.  I got to experience SC this past weekend and it lived up to the hype for me.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:13 PM

View Postleejohnkieh, on 12 September 2017 - 05:52 PM, said:

View Postjgonz69, on 07 September 2017 - 01:34 AM, said:

View PostTerrapinGolfer, on 06 September 2017 - 11:55 PM, said:

View Postjgonz69, on 02 September 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

Not everything is meant to be affordable by everybody.

but that's why it is closing down. Not everything that's unaffordable to everyone is meant to succeed also
Then why does shadow creek stay open when they can only have a handful of rounds of play or less in a day?
Things that happen in Vegas don't reflect what happens in the real world.

The reason why Shadow Creek stays open is because they don't care about revenue. Even my caddy confirmed this. It's an oasis/getaway for high rollers and ballers to play in solitude.  I got to experience SC this past weekend and it lived up to the hype for me.
Thanks for highlighting my point.
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Posted 23 November 2017 - 11:28 AM

Any updates on this? Heading out to Vegas next week and was looking to play shadowcreek but sounds like they have an event going on the day we can play. If it is still open, any input on conditions? Thanks in advance!

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 07:11 PM

The last I saw mentioned was that the last rounds of golf for the Wynn course would be on December 17, 2017. The article was in golfadvisor and written on August 28, so things could have changed, but, I haven't seen anything updated.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 07:41 PM

Good deal. We are between playing there and Cascata. Might be neat to play the Wynn before itís gone, as cascata isnít going anywhere. Hopefully someone will be able to report on recent condition. Maybe they would skimp on maintenance with it closing soon but maybe not with the standard the Wynn likes to keep.

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 07:47 PM

Surprised it's stayed open as long as it has.  Original plan as I remember when I used to live there was to keep it open for 4 years or so.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 07:46 PM

Cascata was fantastic.  Great forecaddie.  

Wynn is still available for 12/4 as I just called but balked at the $500 per since I can't expense this one.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:46 AM

Shadow Creek.
Just another example of what is wrong with golf today.
Environmentally inexcusable and exclusive to a fault.
When you are trying to expand your market into new groups and attract the younger demographic, this in your face excess does more harm than good.
Not sure how to deal with it as capitalism works in its own way.
Maybe the USGA could offer some advice on growing the game instead of promoting isolationism.
Its not limited to Vegas. Even in my small part of the world courses are being built/exist that price their product so as to exclude the local average/middle class golfer.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:18 AM

Well Shadow was the best course I've played. As was stated above, IT (and other $500 courses) AINT MEANT FOR EVERYONE! Don't see how its a problem growing the game, not like its the only game in Vegas. Would you say the same about Pebble or Pinehurst?


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:28 AM

View Posttoddnt, on 22 December 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

Well Shadow was the best course I've played. As was stated above, IT (and other $500 courses) AINT MEANT FOR EVERYONE! Don't see how its a problem growing the game, not like its the only game in Vegas. Would you say the same about Pebble or Pinehurst?

Its not the best I've played but it was certainly Top 5. Golf-wise from start to finish it held my attention way more than Pebble did.

Its $500 but IMO the "exclusive" tag is so overblown and really misunderstood. I'm not sure people know how easy it is to actually get on, all you have to do is stay at just about any MGM hotel and ask the concierge. Thats it. This idea that only guys like Michael Jordan get to play there is crazy.

Heck the Wynn course was available on GolfNow for the last year or so.
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:12 AM

View PostMaddMaxx, on 22 December 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

Shadow Creek.
Just another example of what is wrong with golf today.
Environmentally inexcusable and exclusive to a fault.
When you are trying to expand your market into new groups and attract the younger demographic, this in your face excess does more harm than good.
Not sure how to deal with it as capitalism works in its own way.
Maybe the USGA could offer some advice on growing the game instead of promoting isolationism.
Its not limited to Vegas. Even in my small part of the world courses are being built/exist that price their product so as to exclude the local average/middle class golfer.

Based on your this, explain your thoughts on Augusta National or Cypress Point.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:24 PM

Yes all of those courses mentioned do not promote a welcoming and inclusive environment that promotes the game to the younger generation.
Sure they will always exist but times are changing and hopefully they will change as well.
Do The ultra exclusive courses that exist on $100k entry fees and 6 figure dues cost that much more to maintain?
Probably yes, but not by a factor of 10,000.
Would it really be bad if said courses let the "average" golfer play them occasionally?
To the members, yes; for the game of golf, no.
With all of the talk of the demise of golf, maybe they could step up a bit for the good of all.

I remember reading about Bill Gates' Augusta membership. He is the perfect member for them because he never shows up.

Should national opens represent the nation and only be played on public courses that are playable by the people?
Maybe they are I dont know.

Edited by MaddMaxx, 22 December 2017 - 12:24 PM.


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 01:00 PM

View PostMaddMaxx, on 22 December 2017 - 12:24 PM, said:

Yes all of those courses mentioned do not promote a welcoming and inclusive environment that promotes the game to the younger generation.
Sure they will always exist but times are changing and hopefully they will change as well.
Do The ultra exclusive courses that exist on $100k entry fees and 6 figure dues cost that much more to maintain?
Probably yes, but not by a factor of 10,000.
Would it really be bad if said courses let the "average" golfer play them occasionally?
To the members, yes; for the game of golf, no.
With all of the talk of the demise of golf, maybe they could step up a bit for the good of all.

I remember reading about Bill Gates' Augusta membership. He is the perfect member for them because he never shows up.

Should national opens represent the nation and only be played on public courses that are playable by the people?
Maybe they are I dont know.
The USGA Open should only be played on courses open to the public.  Now that they have the Fox contract money, the stuffed shirts in NJ still haven't bought into expanding golf by actually focusing on the average American.  Even talking about reigning in the ball is all about the pros and not my game for sure.  When Francis Oimet won the US Open in 1913, golf was barely a concept for the working man.  And I still can't play the Brookline club today.  Too bad for the Marions and the Shinnicock Hills courses - if they want to be in a rotation with Beth Page - open the doors or just deal with the PGA (Prohibitively-Rich Golf Association Tour).

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