9/3 Drill and much..much..more
Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:47 PM
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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:03 PM
don't quote me on this but I always assumed it was because if you point the butt of the club at the center of your body you have to rotate your left forearm more to get the proper grip, and also because impact is going to occur with the butt of the club closer to your left thigh, so you want the grip to be correct there.
Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:10 PM
I am not as consistent as you, but I like to think that I have my moments
Hopefully my consistency is not foolish!
Edited by russc, 23 November 2012 - 09:12 PM.
Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:16 PM
Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:29 PM
For years and years I have been making sure my left hand wasn't too strong as my miss is a pull hook.
Sounds great !
Would the slicefixer crowd agree that most grips are OK with slicefixer ? or not ?
Most grips are not OK ... with any method.
With slicefixer swing.... Tom Watson has said one thing that is very sound advice also for Slicefixers: Use the strongest grip you can use without hooking the ball. Or something like that anyway.
Grip in the fingers and right hand weaker than the left - and the left as strong as you can have it without hooking the ball... there you go.
The thing about stronger grip... The stronger grip you use, the harder you have to turn your pivot through impact and the more leverage you will have post impact. Cronical flippers who try to convert should aim for a super strong grip, just to realize the difference between past and future.
Lefthook/russc.... If you have a super strong left hand grip and a weak right hand grip at address, would your left wrist also be cupped at the top of swing as well as through impact? I'm working on the transition/downswing, and I'm confused if I'm suppose to work my left wrist flatter ala pronation through impact. Another way to ask this question is 'should the back of my left wrist point up in the sky (cupped) at impact or should the back of my left wrist flatten or bow and point towards target at impact? I understand it is pivot driven, but I'm trying to understand how the wrists are suppose to react to the pivot. It can go either 2 ways naturally.
Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:57 PM
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 05:06 PM
I would also like to point out that this is not Mr Hogan at his best,even though he completeled his slam in 1953 .Mr Hogan often referred to his swing post /accident as that of a cripple and Geoff has often mentioned that it was the pre- accident Hogan from 46- Jan. 49 which showed him at his best
Edited by russc, 24 November 2012 - 06:14 PM.
Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:13 PM
The goal in gripping the club is to make sure that the hands can work together as 1 unit and to allow the wrists to set naturally and not be restricted going back .He wants a golfer to grip the club in the fingers.Because we all are different anatomically ,the grip will vary somewhat among golfers,but the generic picture of the grip shown below is applicable in many cases. The number of knuckles shown will also vary.For many golfers gripping the club the way in that he suggests will result in a relatively strong left hand grip.The way that the right hand fits over the left is very important and is one area that almost all golfers need to improve .it is also very important that the right trigger finger be slightly separated from the other fingers.He is not a fan of the interlock grip because the pressure is in the interlock nor is he a fan of the 10 finger grip because it does not encourage the hands to act as one unit.But there are successful Slicefixer students who use both.When I observed him this summer for 3 weeks ,I saw him fit his grip to a number of students.I also had studied the material on the grip pretty closely.My grip, while very good , rated as 9.5, still needed slight adjustments.The probability is VERY high,almost %100, that golfers trying to learn this grip on their own ,without some help will get something wrong.That said here is the generic picture of the left hand grip lines
Russ: I have a couple of medicus weighted clubs that have the pre-fomed grips on them....I am sure you have come across these grips that automatically put your hands on the club.
How do these grips match up with Geoff's positions. It seemed to me that these grips were pretty spot on with what I have seen on this blog. Thanks.
Timinator has some very good pictures of the grip on his golf blog.Of course Timinator's grip was fitted to his specific anatomy by Geoff ,so it will not be applicable to all golfers who are trying to adopt the Slicefixer grip.
Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:36 PM
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:08 PM
Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:54 PM
1. Where the V points when your hold on to the club
2. The cupping of the wrist when you have both hands on the club.
While I appreciate your reply and think your speculations are probably correct, I think it's a little ridiculous how everyone stresses the importance of the grip, yet there are so few guidelines for it. I have the utmost respect for Geoff, but there is no way he is the ONLY person in the world that can mold someone's grip perfectly on the club. I'm just trying to grip the club properly.
Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:45 AM
I don't know how Tieman's uses his dots. They can be wrong or right depending on how he uses them.
These lines are really about the angle between club and hand, and if you place the club too much "up your arm" (as per the dots you will not be able to create the 90+ degree angle with the wrist **** - not without moving the club in your left hand anyway. You need to locate the shaft relatively across the hand to be able to create that 90 degree angle between forearm and shaft in the back swing.
Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:47 AM
Put the bottom/left portion of the grip (if butt of club is a clock, around 6:30) down on the last joint of your left index finger, with the club face square or even slightly open. Then put the butt end of the grip down on the inch of skin under your pinky finger. Curl your fingers around the grip then fold the rest of your hand over the top of it, keeping that angle formed with the club and fingers. It should feel very sturdy, with lots of pressure in your fingers, and that someone would have difficulty grabbing the club out of your hand.
That's basically it. Fold right hand on to mold with the left as much as possible so they work together as a unit.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:37 PM
Yeah, I should've posted for reference to the right hand attachment for the question above. My bad.