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#1 ssfranny

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:49 AM

Saw a real nice set of AF 302s on Ebay how are they compared to Miura CBs?   Seems like Epons are more expensive.  Whats forgiveness like between the two?


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 10:36 AM

Miura- MUSHY Soft
Epon- Thump Solid Soft

Depends on the CB iron but I prefer the Epon 302 and 316 over my Miura CB57
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Posted 04 April 2017 - 11:07 AM

Miura feel firm.  Epon uses a lot of 1020 steel which is softer than the 1025 used by Miura.
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Posted 04 April 2017 - 09:03 PM

 TheBoomer, on 04 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Miura- MUSHY Soft
Epon- Thump Solid Soft

Depends on the CB iron but I prefer the Epon 302 and 316 over my Miura CB57

Kinda agree with the post below you.

I don't get soft with Miuras at all. I get pure, clean and solid. Granted, I've never hit Epons, but I don't get soft from Miura Irons/Wedges.

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 09:14 PM

I get more forgiveness which is nice too with the epon line over the Miura line.
I agree with the boomer on how they feel...

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 07:50 AM

Let's face it. If you know about these brands you will probably have a set of both sometime.
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Posted 05 April 2017 - 09:19 AM

I've got to say I have never liked the way EPONS feel.  I know I am in the minority here.

Limited experience in testing with Epons (two sessions on Trackman), but I think I just like the solid feel (IMO) of the Miura's better.   When I compared them to Miura CB's in the past I would say the Epons are more forgiving (slightly to a lot depending on the model you hit) and definitely longer - these may have been the longest irons I've ever hit - I dont know how but the smash factor was much higher on trackman with these.

I still went with the Miura irons because the look, feel and consistency I had with the Miura's won out at the time.  Consistency on two counts - one is I always worry about distance control in really hot irons - right or wrong - I was just afraid of potentially getting a 7 iron that flew 20 yds further all of a sudden. The other is consistency in my swing.  While the Epons are more forgiving for sure than what I purchased, I also seemed to have more slight mishits with them than the Miura's so I needed to make more use of the forgiveness with them.  Irons looked slightly larger at the time to my eye, and for whatever reason you give me a bigger clubface and I will use more of it (thats a personal issue though, not the fault of the club).  

Couple of caveats - its been several years since I've hit them, so I am going on memory and I've never compared head to head to Miura's more forgiving options (PP for instance, nor the CB 57 which to me is an incredibly solid club).

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 02:43 PM

Feel is very subjective and especially what shaft you use.

At the moment I'm in Love with Shimada Tour Lite in the 302 and in the process of putting the same shaft in the Miura CB57

You can't go wrong with either brand and I'm sure they will "feel" totally different in your hands than mine.
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Posted 05 April 2017 - 04:55 PM

 TheBoomer, on 05 April 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Feel is very subjective and especially what shaft you use.

At the moment I'm in Love with Shimada Tour Lite in the 302 and in the process of putting the same shaft in the Miura CB57

You can't go wrong with either brand and I'm sure they will "feel" totally different in your hands than mine.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 07:47 PM

Shimada is a very under appreciated shaft.

I agree. Miura doesn't feel buttery. Mizuno feels more like it.


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 08:24 PM

 TheBoomer, on 04 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Miura- MUSHY Soft
Epon- Thump Solid Soft

Depends on the CB iron but I prefer the Epon 302 and 316 over my Miura CB57

   Miura for me feel anything but Mushy  They feel  Dense solid ....  I don't care for their 'feel" compared to a Endo forged Iron.
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Posted 09 April 2017 - 02:43 PM

Here's a question is $800 a good price for Miura CB heads in 8.5/10 condition?

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Posted 09 April 2017 - 03:31 PM

Depends on the head.

I agree with most about Miura, I feel they are best "feedback" forging in the biz.  Even flushed they give feedback of flush, and not in what I would say is a soft way.

Haven't hit epon, but have hit endo prgr and romaro and those to me are really soft.  Don't overlook Kyoei either, their blades while I hated the heads at address/transition from 7/8, are softest blades I have hit.
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Posted 09 April 2017 - 04:00 PM

 TheBoomer, on 04 April 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

Miura- MUSHY Soft
Epon- Thump Solid Soft

Depends on the CB iron but I prefer the Epon 302 and 316 over my Miura CB57

It's actually totally opposite of this. I've had several sets of both and most people would agree, Epon - spongy soft perfection. Miura - dense perfection.
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Posted 14 April 2017 - 10:32 PM

 Bigmean, on 09 April 2017 - 03:31 PM, said:

Depends on the head.

I agree with most about Miura, I feel they are best "feedback" forging in the biz.  Even flushed they give feedback of flush, and not in what I would say is a soft way.

Haven't hit epon, but have hit endo prgr and romaro and those to me are really soft.  Don't overlook Kyoei either, their blades while I hated the heads at address/transition from 7/8, are softest blades I have hit.

Big! You're talking about these new Kyoei MB heads released? What didn't you like about them at address? I've been reading about them and they sound soft but the JDM market scares me as a whole as I see a lot of good looking blades but having no background knowledge is hard to know what you're going to get.


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Posted 15 April 2017 - 09:45 AM

NO, I had the Vega Raf cm and VM-02.

I LOVED the Raf CM except transition and rounder toe in 3-7.  HOWEVER, the 3 and 4 were easiest long irons to hit for blades ever, really.   The VM02 I hated the faces of.  I have always loved Kyoei feel, but they just don't have heads that I love.  I almost got some zestaims, and now with new line we will see.  I am not worried about it, I KNOW I will own another Kyoei set.

For what it is worth to this thread, My raf CM blades felt like in between endo/miura.  Like a really soft feel that has a sense of density behind it.  Truly Kyoei's best forgings may be the best of all, I am always surprised they dont do more OEM or have more word of mouth.  I almost got their VDC CB set when looking but I was getting sick of overthinking the CB set and just bailed on safe and cheap wilson staff V4s which I do like in transition from small blades.  I am really picky with heads at address, like I had to sell that set of Vegas I LOVED over the 3-7 irons....sucks.  8-pw were perfect, why the set just couldn't stay like that....
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Posted 15 April 2017 - 04:35 PM

Epon in general make the more forgiving irons to address the question asked a while back. The af 302's in particular still play like a players cb but not punishing at all.

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 11:05 PM

I've always found Miuras much more attractive, from an aesthetics standpoint.
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Posted 18 April 2017 - 05:34 AM

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 12:12 PM

love my 302s...rock solid feeling....like a German car purring down a marble highway

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Posted 26 April 2017 - 07:52 PM

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Let's face it. If you know about these brands you will probably have a sets of both sometime.

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