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Hardest Course you've Ever Played?


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#391 TheYipS

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 05:47 AM

The european club is insane played it in 25 mph wind scores were so bad the competition was made reduction only. Tiger holds course record at -4 but it is visually stunning and just a course that you have to accept bad holes on and remember the good ones.
Doonbeg is a monster from the back Tees basically any wayward shot is a lost ball off the tee or on approaches you just have very little chance of finding it in 3ft fescue. Again beautiful played 4 rounds there and had one decent back 9 and thathe was it just a monster would love to see an Irish open there if the wind blew I would be surprised if the winner broke par.


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Posted 06 June 2017 - 08:38 PM

I've played at Kiawah's Ocean Course close to a dozen times now. I don't know who genuinely expects to go low there. I've seen below 5 cappers shoot 120.  The wind plain and simple is not where its hard. It will make 5, 9, and 16 play brutal, sure. If you can't play in the wind I would slate your odds at going low anywhere in less than perfect conditions nearly impossible regardless. It's a course with a ton of nuances. It will be the least pleasant walk on the Atlantic for some but to me it is my favorite test in golf. I would also have to mention Bethpage Black. For a course with almost no water (except 8) and almost no OB, it is absolutely trying b/c you simply cannot hit a less than perfect tee shot per hole. The scoring wasn't miserable if you were in a half decent spot. Trump National Doral was tricky when I played there. Congressional Blue is sneakkkky hard in tourney conditions.
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:47 AM

It used to be a couple of courses in Myrtle Beach.  The Witch (6,796 yards and 71.2/133), it's really just a lot of narrow tree lined fairways, and the holes that that if you miss the landing area for get about it.  TPC Myrtle Beach was another one (6,950 yards and 74.1/144)  wasn't exactly the easiest for the same reasons at The Witch.

Now holding the top spot on my list is Cog Hill No. 4 (7,554 yards and 78/153 from the Black tees), it was the most frustrating round of golf I have ever played!
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:17 AM

View PostDCardinals, on 15 June 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

It used to be a couple of courses in Myrtle Beach.  The Witch (6,796 yards and 71.2/133), it's really just a lot of narrow tree lined fairways, and the holes that that if you miss the landing area for get about it.  TPC Myrtle Beach was another one (6,950 yards and 74.1/144)  wasn't exactly the easiest for the same reasons at The Witch.

Now holding the top spot on my list is Cog Hill No. 4 (7,554 yards and 78/153 from the Black tees), it was the most frustrating round of golf I have ever played!

I played TPC MB last year after 2 days of hard rain. Not the fairest test but it played long with balls plugging in the fairway but you could stop at 3W on the greens. Hope to get back and see it again. Beautiful layout.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 08:02 AM

Doral Blue (Monster) on a windy day. I put 3 in the water on 18 one time. Their other 4 courses are fun to play. My company office was across the road with a view of the course, and corporate membership was a perk.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:34 AM

View Postdogleg0425, on 20 March 2017 - 08:35 PM, said:

The three hardest I have played in order are:
1. The Ocean Course
2. The Ocean Course
3. The Ocean Course

What he said!

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:46 PM

It's already been mentioned but TPC Sawgrass for me.  Played it two days after the Players and it was brutal. Still an amazing experience but not an easy track.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:46 PM

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 20 March 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

Koolau Oahu, HI

78.2/153 from tips 7310
75.4/140 from 6797 (where I played)


Course basically built on the side of a mountain in a rain forest. Course itself reminded me a bit of desert target golf, but just not in a desert, not much room to miss. What really made it difficult is how wet it is. I lost 3 balls in fairways where I knew exactly where I hit them, just sucked up by the earth and disappeared. One of the most beautiful places I have played but, pretty much a joke of a place to try and put up a serious score unless you are there in the dry season.

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I used to work at this course when I lived in Hawaii and was trying to become a golf pro.  When people asked how many balls they needed because they heard the difficulty of the course we always told them multiply your hdcp by 1.5....start with that many and we will see you at the turn lol

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:13 PM

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:10 PM

1. Trump LA is the hardest course I've ever played, but I also consider it to be one of the worst designs I've ever played. As someone mentioned earlier, you either hit the fairway there or you need to retee/take a drop. Terrible layout on an even worse piece of land.

2. Bethpage is all a mental game. If you've got the length you can score there. Having played it regularly the hardest thing is to take your medicine when you're in trouble.

3. TPC Sawgrass is a course that I think is a very hard test. Mental psych out factor coupled with a design where you HAVE to put the ball where Pete Dye wants you to if you want to score. Sawgrass is as much of a chess match as it is a round of golf. And I even with the best of intentions if you miss your spot, best of luck to you.

4. Oakmont's green complexes are incredible. Not unfair, but tough. The course doesn't play all that long, but if you miss the greens in the wrong spot good luck. It's one of the few courses I've played where just because you're on the green in regulation it doesn't mean you can take a deep breath and relax...in fact that's where you need to focus the most. The first hole there is one of the hands down toughest first holes I've ever seen, and they've got an amazing collection of sub-400 yard par 4s that are just incredibly difficult. All that said, the course is extremely fair.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:41 PM

I actually think Sawgrass is very playable.  Assuming you play the proper tees, the water was much more out of play (other than 17-18) than I thought going in.  I'm not saying it is an easy course, but it can definitely be managed and the greens were not too tough.  Compared to perched up greens like Erin Hills, which I voted as the toughest course, it's possible to get up an down at Sawgrass.    And I would argue the Stadium is the easier course on the property.  The Valley course eats up the Web.com guys most years.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:36 AM

 SilverBullets, on 22 March 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

 North Butte, on 22 March 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

I have a problem because outside of several courses I've called "home" at various times, most of the rest I've only played once or twice. Almost any links course in the UK if the rough is up and the wind is more than 15-20mph I'll lose several balls and shoot a million. But some of those same courses if I catch them in a dry summer and there's little wind, I can play to my handicap without having to play particularly well.

So if I listed the tough courses I've played from hardest to easiest, the top of the list would be the ones where the wind was blowing the hardest then descending order down to the ones I caught under pushover conditions.

In USA I'd have to say it's a tough call between the Ocean Course at Kiawah and Spyglass Hill. For my game I honestly think Spy is slightly tougher. I play the forward tees and from 6,000-ish yards the Ocean Course is generally manageable unless the wind is really up. But even playing up at a comfortable yardage Spyglass Hill was a challenge. For better players than me, playing the back tees I suspect OC is tougher than Spy.

I have Spyglass as the toughest track I have played.  I played spyglass and Kiawah on relatively calm days.  With little wind (sub 15 mph), The Ocean Course is very manageable.  Especially for someone like me whom is a high ball hitter and generates a decent amount of spin.  For the most part, I was able to hit and hold greens at Kiawah.  I know a lot of players struggle with that out there (the rest of my group was no exception) but for me it wasn't that big of an issue.  There was also more room to miss at The Ocean course.

At Spyglass, I found if you missed the fairway you were dead.  Now my swing was a mess the day I played Spyglass... I just didn't have it together.  Spyglass ate me alive.  I probably had my C game that day and it led to maybe my highest score on a golf course.  At Kiawah, I played it with my B game and shot pretty close to a normal score I would shoot at a CC with a B game (I think I shot around 82/83).  It just wasn't near as punishing to me as Spyglass.

I also thought Whistling Straits was harder than The Ocean Course.  I was hitting the ball pretty well that day (I was -1 through 3 holes) and then just starting missing.  I wasn't missing by a lot, but, any miss at Whistling becomes a product of the bounce you get.  I had a lot more bad bounces than good that day.  Some of those 'bunkers' at Whistling at just stupid.  The green complexes are also very tough to navigate... especially when you miss the green.  The day we played WS it was pretty windy so that surely led to me saying it was more difficult.

I was a bit surprised with The Ocean Course though.  I was expecting it to beat me up and punish me even on a calm day.  It simply didn't.  I could see how a windy day would change things a lot, but to me it wasn't as tough as advertised.  I thought Spyglass and Whistling were more difficult.

+1 on Spyglass. After the beach holes you're dealing with very narrow fairways and if you miss them it's over.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:42 AM

when i was younger and hitting the ball well there was no really "hard" course that jumps up in my mind...

at age 71 all courses are now hard..

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:35 AM

 Tremaine, on 20 March 2017 - 02:50 PM, said:

Bayonet in Monterey on cold and very windy day.
Bayonet anyday can be a tough track. Its so firm out there. If you hit the wrong slope on the green, you could 70 feet from the pin.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:15 AM

TPC Sawgrass Stadium tips or Streamong Red Tips.  Both punish the hell out of you if you miss the fairway

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Posted Yesterday, 11:28 AM

Ko'Olau on Oahu.  Insane views, insanely difficult golf course.  Had I not been stunned by the views, I'd have had a much worse time.

Overall not that great of a course due to being cut-out of a rain forest.  Too wet, rough is nearly impossibly to find balls in, and many, many forced carries.

I believe it was the hardest course in the US for a while, at least that was their marketing gimmick.

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Posted Yesterday, 11:42 AM

 Mfelix, on 28 June 2017 - 11:15 AM, said:

TPC Sawgrass Stadium tips or Streamong Red Tips.  Both punish the hell out of you if you miss the fairway

It takes some work to miss the fairway at Streamsong. I would agree that it's a really tough course to score well on - depending on lin position, you can be hosed by being in the wrong place on the fairway.

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Posted Yesterday, 12:27 PM

 Santiago Golf, on 21 June 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

 Tremaine, on 20 March 2017 - 02:50 PM, said:

Bayonet in Monterey on cold and very windy day.
Bayonet anyday can be a tough track. Its so firm out there. If you hit the wrong slope on the green, you could 70 feet from the pin.

Played Bayonet from the tips recently and it was pretty damn tough.  The greens were insanely firm and fast.  Luckily I had mostly uphill putts that day but the few downhill chips I had it was tough to hit it to 30'.  But I'm an amateur so what do I know.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:34 PM

 short game, on 26 March 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

1. The Ocean Course - Kiawah Island; play it in any kind of wind and it resembles the Bataan death march. absolutely brutal. pars should be celebrated.

2. Torrey Pines south - Play right before Buick. Hit a ball in the rough on the first tee and the starter said " Better hit another one". I said "why?". he said, "you'll never find it and if you do probably won't be able to hit it" -- he was right.

3. Mauna Kea - the slope says not so hard, the course says different.

4. Musgrove Mill in Clinton SC.

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Posted Yesterday, 12:38 PM

Bethpage Black with the rough up hands down.


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Posted Yesterday, 12:41 PM

Torrey Pines South with rough is second

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Posted Yesterday, 12:51 PM

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