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#1441 Double Mocha Man

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Posted 10 March 2018 - 08:06 PM

View PostTechnoguru, on 10 March 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

Put a JD tour with sight line in the bag about two months ago. Like the softer feel and it is sinking more putts/round. Been a blade player since the early Pings, my SC custom is sitting next to my bag just in case I fall out of like with the spider. Putting has always been a strong part of my game and this is helping even more. Guys in my regular group have even commented on the improvement. Only dislike is the black paint around the insert chips easily. I figured it was from sanded greens when warming up.

According to your WITB you have already fallen out of like with your Spider...

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Posted 10 March 2018 - 09:28 PM

This putter has definitely played out. Not as much hype as there once was.

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 07:35 AM

I just pulled the trigger on a new silver L neck. My gamer for the past few years has been a center shaft ghost spider. As a lefty, it's hard to find stuff to try. I tried out the slant neck and didn't really mind the 32* toe hang. The L neck has only 21*, so I'm hoping it will feel even better.

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 10:53 AM

Compared to my bettinardis and Cameronís this thing is an eye sore

But damn does it work ; I like and have a gated stroke , coupled with the flow neck / higher moi , itís a bottom of the cup machine

Note someone above said jimmy walker had one in the bag with a circle t head cover

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 01:09 PM

View Posttwjames, on 10 March 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

This putter has definitely played out. Not as much hype as there once was.

I really wanted to like it, but the paint chipping steered me to the O-Works S neck putters.

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 02:34 PM

View Posttwjames, on 10 March 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

This putter has definitely played out. Not as much hype as there once was.

I don't know where you are looking or what you are watching. I've seen atleast 3 players at the valspar that are gaming it currently and were not at the end of last year. Not to mention that anyone aside from Sergio (moved to Cally) who originally gamed one or has gamed one in the past, is still gaming it....
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 11:10 AM

I never liked how the red putters were all red and black, but had a white sight line, so I painted my spider limited sight line black.  I like it better.  I drain more putts this way, haha...

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:50 AM

So the platinum one is the same with the red and black limited?
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 02:48 PM

View PostHookasaurus Rex, on 12 March 2018 - 11:10 AM, said:

I never liked how the red putters were all red and black, but had a white sight line, so I painted my spider limited sight line black.  I like it better.  I drain more putts this way, haha...

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:33 PM

View Posttwjames, on 10 March 2018 - 09:28 PM, said:

This putter has definitely played out. Not as much hype as there once was.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:52 PM

Jimmy walker has joined spider nation!

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:08 PM

Rolled the Center shaft one today. Will be purchasing it
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 05:03 PM

Adam Scott was rolling one today at the Arnold Palmer.
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:16 PM

Switched to the Black Spider early last year and have never looked back. Started playing Am tournaments again and my putting was the most consistent part of my game which it never had been. I would highly recommend
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 10:07 PM

Really want to try the L neck spider

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 11:08 PM

I have the Black TS for about 2 months now. Surprisingly, given the toe hang, I am able to really get/keep it very square with a SBST stroke.

I have however, found some difficulty getting the ball to the hole on slow(er) greens. I wonder if changing to heavier weights would help - it does feel pretty light with the stock weights.

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 11:23 PM

View Postnsxguy, on 14 March 2018 - 11:08 PM, said:

I have the Black TS for about 2 months now. Surprisingly, given the toe hang, I am able to really get it very square with a SBST stroke.

I have however, found some difficulty getting the ball to the hole on slow(er) greens. I wonder if changing to heavier weights would help - it does feel pretty light with the stock weights.
Same here. Love the stability but wish it had a milled face. The insert kills me!

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 11:47 PM

View PostSh00terMcgavin, on 14 March 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Adam Scott was rolling one today at the Arnold Palmer.

Borrowing Jason's I believe.......
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 12:26 AM

Rolled a CS in the store the other day and man did it set up well for me.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 07:45 AM

View Postandrieddle, on 14 March 2018 - 11:47 PM, said:

View PostSh00terMcgavin, on 14 March 2018 - 05:03 PM, said:

Adam Scott was rolling one today at the Arnold Palmer.

Borrowing Jason's I believe.......

Yeap. Scott has not been putting the best and his Futura has been letting him down and said he wasn't the most confident with his putting in an interview late last year. He probably wanted to see what the putter was all about from a fellow Aussie!

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 10:29 AM

If Taylormade ever make a milled Spider Tour, I will part my ways with my money very quickly.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 11:22 AM

View PostSean289, on 15 March 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

If Taylormade ever make a milled Spider Tour, I will part my ways with my money very quickly.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 05:14 PM

View PostSean289, on 15 March 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

If Taylormade ever make a milled Spider Tour, I will part my ways with my money very quickly.

I doubt that's possible.

Part of what makes this putter so great is the high MOI, and a one piece/one material milled construction will most likely through that off by quite a bit.

That said, if TaylorMade (or any other company, for that matter) can make a Spider-esque slant neck putter, with the MOI and performance characteristics of the Spider Tour, AND somehow figure out how to make it sound/feel like an old Anser with a sound slot, then I will be first on the pre-order list!

Until then, the black will remain in my bag.  I don't like the way it feels, but it's tolerable.  It's the most reliable putter I've ever had inside of 8'-10'.  Outside of that distance, I don't really make more putts with it than anything else... but my misses are closer to the hole.  More tap-ins = less stress = fun golf.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 06:17 PM

View PostMikey Town, on 15 March 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

View PostSean289, on 15 March 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

If Taylormade ever make a milled Spider Tour, I will part my ways with my money very quickly.

I doubt that's possible.

Part of what makes this putter so great is the high MOI, and a one piece/one material milled construction will most likely through that off by quite a bit.

That said, if TaylorMade (or any other company, for that matter) can make a Spider-esque slant neck putter, with the MOI and performance characteristics of the Spider Tour, AND somehow figure out how to make it sound/feel like an old Anser with a sound slot, then I will be first on the pre-order list!

Until then, the black will remain in my bag.  I don't like the way it feels, but it's tolerable.  It's the most reliable putter I've ever had inside of 8'-10'.  Outside of that distance, I don't really make more putts with it than anything else... but my misses are closer to the hole.  More tap-ins = less stress = fun golf.

I said the same a few pages back in this thread. I found it fantastic from 6 feet in but my lag putting with it was a atrocious.
I understand what youíre saying in relation to how its constructed and the MOI but didnít Odyssey bring out a millled 2 Ball protype a few years back? I never gamed it but I remember it feeling nicer than any 2 Ball insert. As you probably aware, the 2 Ball also has that MOI shape. Iím sure Taylormade could make a slant neck milled Spider with a good feel if they wanted to. Hereís hoping anyway.
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 11:05 AM

View PostSean289, on 15 March 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

I said the same a few pages back in this thread. I found it fantastic from 6 feet in but my lag putting with it was a atrocious.
I understand what you’re saying in relation to how its constructed and the MOI but didn’t Odyssey bring out a millled 2 Ball protype a few years back? I never gamed it but I remember it feeling nicer than any 2 Ball insert. As you probably aware, the 2 Ball also has that MOI shape. I’m sure Taylormade could make a slant neck milled Spider with a good feel if they wanted to. Here’s hoping anyway.

MOI is not a head shape... it’s a center of gravity thing.  In a putter, for the most part, the farther away/behind the center of the face you can get the CG, the higher the MOI will be (I know there’s a lot of technical stuff involved here, but I’m keeping it simple).

The Spider has a high MOI because of all the weight out in the “wings” of the putter.  It’s the same concept with the Scotty Cameron putter like Adam Scott uses.  The 2-ball head shape is more of an alignment aid, than a way to raise the putters MOI.

If TM went to a one piece milled face, the face area would be heavier than the insert/adhesive that’s currently there.  That would move the CG forward and lower the MOI, so the performance may suffer.  Not sure if an Odyssey EXO-style redesign could remove enough weight from other parts of the putter to compensate for this, but I doubt that making a firmer feeling putter isn’t in the priority list for TM right now.

With all of the people who are in love with the marshmallow soft feeling of... well... everything, we are definitely in the minority.

FWIW, my lag putting wasn’t good with this thing out of the gate either, but it’s nothing that a couple hours on the practice green didn’t tighten up.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 11:33 AM

View PostMikey Town, on 16 March 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

View PostSean289, on 15 March 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

I said the same a few pages back in this thread. I found it fantastic from 6 feet in but my lag putting with it was a atrocious.
I understand what youíre saying in relation to how its constructed and the MOI but didnít Odyssey bring out a millled 2 Ball protype a few years back? I never gamed it but I remember it feeling nicer than any 2 Ball insert. As you probably aware, the 2 Ball also has that MOI shape. Iím sure Taylormade could make a slant neck milled Spider with a good feel if they wanted to. Hereís hoping anyway.

MOI is not a head shape... itís a center of gravity thing.  In a putter, for the most part, the farther away/behind the center of the face you can get the CG, the higher the MOI will be (I know thereís a lot of technical stuff involved here, but Iím keeping it simple).

The Spider has a high MOI because of all the weight out in the ďwingsĒ of the putter.  Itís the same concept with the Scotty Cameron putter like Adam Scott uses.  The 2-ball head shape is more of an alignment aid, than a way to raise the putters MOI.

If TM went to a one piece milled face, the face area would be heavier than the insert/adhesive thatís currently there.  That would move the CG forward and lower the MOI, so the performance may suffer.  Not sure if an Odyssey EXO-style redesign could remove enough weight from other parts of the putter to compensate for this, but I doubt that making a firmer feeling putter isnít in the priority list for TM right now.

With all of the people who are in love with the marshmallow soft feeling of... well... everything, we are definitely in the minority.

FWIW, my lag putting wasnít good with this thing out of the gate either, but itís nothing that a couple hours on the practice green didnít tighten up.

Man. Youíre gaming the spider with all those stunning putters you have in your stable?

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:00 PM

View PostJunkerJorge, on 16 March 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

View PostMikey Town, on 16 March 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

View PostSean289, on 15 March 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

I said the same a few pages back in this thread. I found it fantastic from 6 feet in but my lag putting with it was a atrocious.
I understand what you're saying in relation to how its constructed and the MOI but didn't Odyssey bring out a millled 2 Ball protype a few years back? I never gamed it but I remember it feeling nicer than any 2 Ball insert. As you probably aware, the 2 Ball also has that MOI shape. I'm sure Taylormade could make a slant neck milled Spider with a good feel if they wanted to. Here's hoping anyway.

MOI is not a head shape... it's a center of gravity thing.  In a putter, for the most part, the farther away/behind the center of the face you can get the CG, the higher the MOI will be (I know there's a lot of technical stuff involved here, but I'm keeping it simple).

The Spider has a high MOI because of all the weight out in the "wings" of the putter.  It's the same concept with the Scotty Cameron putter like Adam Scott uses.  The 2-ball head shape is more of an alignment aid, than a way to raise the putters MOI.

If TM went to a one piece milled face, the face area would be heavier than the insert/adhesive that's currently there.  That would move the CG forward and lower the MOI, so the performance may suffer.  Not sure if an Odyssey EXO-style redesign could remove enough weight from other parts of the putter to compensate for this, but I doubt that making a firmer feeling putter isn't in the priority list for TM right now.

With all of the people who are in love with the marshmallow soft feeling of... well... everything, we are definitely in the minority.

FWIW, my lag putting wasn't good with this thing out of the gate either, but it's nothing that a couple hours on the practice green didn't tighten up.

Man. You're gaming the spider with all those stunning putters you have in your stable?

I don't want to... trust me, I've tried to get it out of the bag quite a few times.

It looks worse, sounds worse and feels worse than any other putter I own (by a pretty large margin)... and it has never made me smile when I look at it... not even once.  But it puts the ball in the hole more often than any of them.

When I go out to have fun, I have my pick of amazing flatsticks.  When it's an important round, or it's tournament time, the Spider Tour black is in the bag.
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:14 PM

View PostMikey Town, on 16 March 2018 - 12:00 PM, said:

View PostJunkerJorge, on 16 March 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

View PostMikey Town, on 16 March 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

View PostSean289, on 15 March 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

I said the same a few pages back in this thread. I found it fantastic from 6 feet in but my lag putting with it was a atrocious.
I understand what you're saying in relation to how its constructed and the MOI but didn't Odyssey bring out a millled 2 Ball protype a few years back? I never gamed it but I remember it feeling nicer than any 2 Ball insert. As you probably aware, the 2 Ball also has that MOI shape. I'm sure Taylormade could make a slant neck milled Spider with a good feel if they wanted to. Here's hoping anyway.

MOI is not a head shape... it's a center of gravity thing.  In a putter, for the most part, the farther away/behind the center of the face you can get the CG, the higher the MOI will be (I know there's a lot of technical stuff involved here, but I'm keeping it simple).

The Spider has a high MOI because of all the weight out in the "wings" of the putter.  It's the same concept with the Scotty Cameron putter like Adam Scott uses.  The 2-ball head shape is more of an alignment aid, than a way to raise the putters MOI.

If TM went to a one piece milled face, the face area would be heavier than the insert/adhesive that's currently there.  That would move the CG forward and lower the MOI, so the performance may suffer.  Not sure if an Odyssey EXO-style redesign could remove enough weight from other parts of the putter to compensate for this, but I doubt that making a firmer feeling putter isn't in the priority list for TM right now.

With all of the people who are in love with the marshmallow soft feeling of... well... everything, we are definitely in the minority.

FWIW, my lag putting wasn't good with this thing out of the gate either, but it's nothing that a couple hours on the practice green didn't tighten up.

Man. You're gaming the spider with all those stunning putters you have in your stable?

I don't want to... trust me, I've tried to get it out of the bag quite a few times.

It looks worse, sounds worse and feels worse than any other putter I own (by a pretty large margin)... and it has never made me smile when I look at it... not even once.  But it puts the ball in the hole more often than any of them.

When I go out to have fun, I have my pick of amazing flatsticks.  When it's an important round, or it's tournament time, the Spider Tour black is in the bag.

Haha. I think that is the best endorsement I have seen for the spider. .... sort of.

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Posted 16 March 2018 - 12:15 PM

View PostMikey Town, on 16 March 2018 - 11:05 AM, said:

View PostSean289, on 15 March 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

I said the same a few pages back in this thread. I found it fantastic from 6 feet in but my lag putting with it was a atrocious.
I understand what youíre saying in relation to how its constructed and the MOI but didnít Odyssey bring out a millled 2 Ball protype a few years back? I never gamed it but I remember it feeling nicer than any 2 Ball insert. As you probably aware, the 2 Ball also has that MOI shape. Iím sure Taylormade could make a slant neck milled Spider with a good feel if they wanted to. Hereís hoping anyway.

MOI is not a head shape... itís a center of gravity thing.  In a putter, for the most part, the farther away/behind the center of the face you can get the CG, the higher the MOI will be (I know thereís a lot of technical stuff involved here, but Iím keeping it simple).

The Spider has a high MOI because of all the weight out in the ďwingsĒ of the putter.  Itís the same concept with the Scotty Cameron putter like Adam Scott uses.  The 2-ball head shape is more of an alignment aid, than a way to raise the putters MOI.

If TM went to a one piece milled face, the face area would be heavier than the insert/adhesive thatís currently there.  That would move the CG forward and lower the MOI, so the performance may suffer.  Not sure if an Odyssey EXO-style redesign could remove enough weight from other parts of the putter to compensate for this, but I doubt that making a firmer feeling putter isnít in the priority list for TM right now.

With all of the people who are in love with the marshmallow soft feeling of... well... everything, we are definitely in the minority.

FWIW, my lag putting wasnít good with this thing out of the gate either, but itís nothing that a couple hours on the practice green didnít tighten up.

Thatís fair enough and you definitely know more about this than me. Thanks for the info.
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 10:18 PM

Does anyone know if they are going to come out with the dj or walker t alignment aid to retail?

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