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#1 ddetts

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:08 PM

Does anybody have any experience or information on these?  There's seems to have been little information or fanfare surrounding them. They're currently shown on The Golf Works under KBS shafts but I don't see any information for them on KBS's website.

https://www.golfwork...hafts/p/FS0050/

They're not cheap at $55 a shaft

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KBS S-Taper Chrome .355" Iron Shafts

Features:
  • Engineered to provide superior feel while maintaining shot workability for players seeking a mid-launch and low to mid spin shaft.
  • Shares the same bend profile as the KBS Tour shafts only with elongated step patterns to control spin, generating stable performance throughout the swing.
  • Chrome finish featuring a 360 degree cured decal for lasting durability.

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:21 PM

Sounds like a lower spinning version of KBS Tour to me, but I thought they already had the Tour V for that.

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:24 PM

$55 a shaft?  Wow.
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:24 PM

It's new for 2017 and also the most expensive KBS steel shaft.  Haven't seen any reviews, but In terms of launch height and spin rate, the new S-Taper falls right in-between the Tour V and Kim Braly's signature KBS Tour shaft.  The weight is the same as the Tour, (120 grams in Stiff Flex).

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:26 PM

View Postjay65, on 23 February 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

Sounds like a lower spinning version of KBS Tour to me, but I thought they already had the Tour V for that.

The Tour V was also to promote higher ball flight as well. So I'm assuming that this is just a lower spinning version of the KBS Tour shaft.

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:44 PM

View PostHowardz3, on 23 February 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

View Postjay65, on 23 February 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

Sounds like a lower spinning version of KBS Tour to me, but I thought they already had the Tour V for that.

The Tour V was also to promote higher ball flight as well. So I'm assuming that this is just a lower spinning version of the KBS Tour shaft.

According to the KBS fitting chart shown in Golfworks latest 2017 catalog, (page 114), the Tour V launches lower and spins less than the KBS Tour.  The new S-Taper falls right in-between those two.  The original C-Taper is still the lowest launching and lowest spinning KBS shaft by a good margin.

Edited by bobcat, 23 February 2017 - 01:52 PM.

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:52 PM

View Postbobcat, on 23 February 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

View PostHowardz3, on 23 February 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

View Postjay65, on 23 February 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

Sounds like a lower spinning version of KBS Tour to me, but I thought they already had the Tour V for that.

The Tour V was also to promote higher ball flight as well. So I'm assuming that this is just a lower spinning version of the KBS Tour shaft.

According to the KBS fitting chart shown in Golfworks latest Clubmaker's catalog, the Tour V launches lower and spins less than the KBS Tour.  The new S-Taper falls right in-between those two.  The original C-Taper is still the lowest launching and lowest spinning KBS shaft by a good margin.

Yes sir you are correct, wrong info from a club builder! Thanks for the catch.

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:03 PM

From an email I received on Monday:

Make your game feel "$Money$" immediately. The KBS Tour $ - Taper has finally arrived will officially available online and in finer golf retailers worldwide on Monday March 6th. This will be the newest steel shaft in the KBS Golf Shafts line after continually delivering the best steel shafts on the market for ten years. Head of research and development and the brain behind the best steel shafts in golf, longtime KBS designer Kim Braly wanted the KBS Tour $ - Taper to provide superior feel while maintaining shot work-ability for players seeking a mid-launch and low spin shaft. The KBS Tour $ - Taper shares the same bend profile as the KBS TOUR with elongated step patterns for spin, generating a stable performance throughout the swing. KBS is proud to offer the KBS Tour $ - Taper in 2 finishes: Black PVD and Classic KBS Chrome, KBS Tour $-Taper will come in the following Flex and Weights, R 110g, R+ 115g, S 120g, S+ 125g and X 130g. And Innovated for the KBS Tour $-Taper is our first ever 360° cured decal for a one of a kind look on your equipment. This shaft has already been adopted on Tour by some of the games biggest names and will continue to grow as the performance and word spreads throughout Golf. Finally you have,
Tour Feel and Money Performance. | Player Driven. Tour Proven. |



Kim Braly - "The KBS Tour changed the performance and feel of steel golf shafts on Tour when it was unveiled almost ten years ago, The KBS Tour $ - Taper will do the same for a new generation of golfers looking for the best golf shafts on the market. The KBS Tour $ - Taper is for the player looking for a straighter and stronger ball flight, with lower spin resulting in a Tour caliber performance and feel."

Edited by George1174, 23 February 2017 - 01:04 PM.

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:26 PM

I thought the gap between the standard KBS Tour and the Tour V was pretty 'tight' as it was, so surprised that it appears they're trying to fit a shaft in between to be honest.

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:37 PM

Sounds great, and love the mid-flex options. Don't love the price.


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Posted 23 February 2017 - 01:45 PM

View Postbobcat, on 23 February 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

View PostHowardz3, on 23 February 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

View Postjay65, on 23 February 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

Sounds like a lower spinning version of KBS Tour to me, but I thought they already had the Tour V for that.

The Tour V was also to promote higher ball flight as well. So I'm assuming that this is just a lower spinning version of the KBS Tour shaft.

According to the KBS fitting chart shown in Golfworks latest Clubmaker's catalog, the Tour V launches lower and spins less than the KBS Tour.  The new S-Taper falls right in-between those two.  The original C-Taper is still the lowest launching and lowest spinning KBS shaft by a good margin.

I was trying to find an image of that chart to upload, but was unsuccessful.
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 12:30 AM

Hmm....
Wonder what the comparison would be between the S-Taper vs C-Taper and Tour models?
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 09:05 AM

I still find it interesting that there's no evidence of the shaft on KBS's website yet.  Perhaps they're too overwhelmingly busy to update the website?
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Posted 25 February 2017 - 08:41 PM

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 02:27 PM

Looks like a black version as well. KBS posted this on their Instagram account yesterday.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 05:44 PM

Well hey, they look cool. And the $ part makes sense at $55 per shaft.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:25 PM

View PostGeorge1174, on 23 February 2017 - 01:03 PM, said:

From an email I received on Monday:

Make your game feel "$Money$" immediately. The KBS Tour $ - Taper has finally arrived and will be officially available online and in finer golf retailers worldwide on Monday March 6th. This will be the newest steel shaft in the KBS Golf Shafts line after continually delivering the best steel shafts on the market for ten years. Head of research and development and the brain behind the best steel shafts in golf, longtime KBS designer Kim Braly wanted the KBS Tour $ - Taper to provide superior feel while maintaining shot work-ability for players seeking a mid-launch and low spin shaft. The KBS Tour $ - Taper shares the same bend profile as the KBS TOUR with elongated step patterns for spin, generating a stable performance throughout the swing. KBS is proud to offer the KBS Tour $ - Taper in 2 finishes: Black PVD and Classic KBS Chrome, KBS Tour $-Taper will come in the following Flex and Weights, R 110g, R+ 115g, S 120g, S+ 125g and X 130g. And Innovated for the KBS Tour $-Taper is our first ever 360° cured decal for a one of a kind look on your equipment. This shaft has already been adopted on Tour by some of the games biggest names and will continue to grow as the performance and word spreads throughout Golf. Finally you have,
Tour Feel and Money Performance. | Player Driven. Tour Proven. |



Kim Braly - "The KBS Tour changed the performance and feel of steel golf shafts on Tour when it was unveiled almost ten years ago, The KBS Tour $ - Taper will do the same for a new generation of golfers looking for the best golf shafts on the market. The KBS Tour $ - Taper is for the player looking for a straighter and stronger ball flight, with lower spin resulting in a Tour caliber performance and feel."


If this is a direct copy/paste from an email KBS put out, they should spend some "$" on a proofreader before investing any more "$" in developing new shafts that are in between the Tour V and C-Taper.  

I'm not one to be the "grammar police", but there haven't been any posts lately mentioning anuses, or people being wronged by buying something they didn't expect/offered a full refund/refusing said refund in the DOND section so I'm bored!
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 09:24 PM

Supposedly 3/6/17 Monday these are available. ....so more stable, heavier tour V I'm guessing

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:13 AM

View PostSwooshLT, on 02 March 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

Supposedly 3/6/17 Monday these are available. ....so more stable, heavier tour V I'm guessing

Better be game-changing for $55/per.  I'm talking Rocketballzier better than Tour Vs for that price.  Of course a lot of guys from GRX will by them, because it's the latest/greatest thing since sliced bread, but will the average Joe be able to tell the difference?  

I'm not a hater.  Have Tour V(X) ss x 1 in my irons currently, and have Tour S in my backup set, and have C-Taper S in my backups to my backups (this is GRX isn't it?)  These would just have to be phenomenal at this price for me to even consider switching.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:40 PM

Same weights as KBS Tour, C-Taper, FLT. Similar feeling to KBS Tour. But lower spinning. Maintains a similar launch to tour. but spin rates lower than Tour V. Tour V in my opinion felt firm. Not as firm as C-Taper. This maintains the feel of Tour just with better spin rates. I have had a set for testing for awhile. Heard rumblings Pat Perez dropped 1,000 Rpm's when he switched to them. Apparently he is a hi spin player.......price seems hi...but if it works....


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 10:31 PM

 SirHoselRocket, on 03 March 2017 - 12:40 PM, said:

Same weights as KBS Tour, C-Taper, FLT. Similar feeling to KBS Tour. But lower spinning. Maintains a similar launch to tour. but spin rates lower than Tour V. Tour V in my opinion felt firm. Not as firm as C-Taper. This maintains the feel of Tour just with better spin rates. I have had a set for testing for awhile. Heard rumblings Pat Perez dropped 1,000 Rpm's when he switched to them. Apparently he is a hi spin player.......price seems hi...but if it works....

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 10:14 AM

 jay65, on 23 February 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

I thought the gap between the standard KBS Tour and the Tour V was pretty 'tight' as it was, so surprised that it appears they're trying to fit a shaft in between to be honest.


it seems the tour vs play softer. example my profile on the fit system i fit to stiff in c taper and tour but it says x in the tour v.   so my guess i s when you compare s tour to stiff v you are actually playing like a soft stepped v.....its silly but maybe they have figured that out and are accounting for it in the fitting.

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:08 AM

Anyone gaming these? Im gonna throw them in my 545/745 next week

https://www.youtube....h?v=brCmiZunGPQ
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Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:29 AM

 mtex22, on 25 June 2017 - 11:08 AM, said:

Anyone gaming these? Im gonna throw them in my 545/745 next week

https://www.youtube....h?v=brCmiZunGPQ

I've been playing them for a few weeks. To me it's like they took a kbs tour shaft and changed up the step pattern, almost looks step-less. The feel of them is one of the best feeling shafts I've played, ballflight is similar to kbs tour but more flat. They get up there and stay up there. I think he made it in response to project x Lz. However I think the s taper is better, lz played too soft and spiny for me. Only thing I'm getting use to is the 360 shaft label, don't like seeing it during the swing and can't remove it but it does kinda look cool

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:37 AM

 mtex22, on 25 June 2017 - 11:08 AM, said:

Anyone gaming these? Im gonna throw them in my 545/745 next week

https://www.youtube....h?v=brCmiZunGPQ

I think they'd suit me great but at $55 a shaft I think they're nuts. $55 for steel??

I like the flight and spin of the  tour V 120x I'm playing but the feel isn't so hot and the tips bend every 6-7 months.

Sure, they send me new ones when they bend, but they SHOULDNT BEND IN THE FIRST PLACE. They admit it's a problem yet they never have reinforced the tips. Makes me wonder if they finally addressed the issue with these.

Edited by Jagpilotohio, 25 June 2017 - 11:40 AM.

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 12:59 PM

Wow - are shaft companies really still using terms like lower spin for shafts. Unbelievable

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 04:34 PM

Cant imagine a big enough difference from what they have already.....and cost being significant

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 12:37 PM

Decided to give these a shot as I've been a Tour fan for several years, but would love a touch less spin. Should have them in play by next weekend and will update with some data compared to Tour.

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 03:01 PM

Testing the $-taper now for a few weeks in a #6 iron.
Very good shaft. Feel is similar to KBS tour but the apex is lower. Launches with less spin.
I do not see any relation with the tour V. The profile of the Tour V is much firmer.

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 03:21 PM

Been playing them since the week after the PGA show and they are the best shafts I've ever played. By far the perfect fit for my game. Plenty of spin to stop, and zero ballooning, and you can move it and way you like.

I'm a huge fan or them to say the least

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