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#1 AlxHm3

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 02:57 PM

Just pulled a set of c-tapers and it seems like almost every tip is bent a little bit. One worse than the others. Has anybody had this issue? These shafts are close to 4 years old.


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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:21 PM

I've heard the stories on the C-tapers bending. I owned 130x for a few years and didn't notice anything. I also read on here that it was limited to the lites and the 120s
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 05:18 PM

I bent the 120's never bent the 130x

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 05:19 PM

I bought a set of used 714 CBs at Golfsmith a couple of years ago with c-tapers in them. The 4,5 and 7 we're all bent. Of course, I'd only hit the 6 and the 8 in the store.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 05:36 PM

5 years ago I had this happen with 2 sets of KBS Tours and never returned to KBS.

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 06:01 PM

There is about half dozen different threads about C-Taper shafts bending at the tip.

You might want to check the archives...

http://www.golfwrx.c...sel-pics-added/

http://www.golfwrx.c...-taper-bending/

http://www.golfwrx.c...-taper-bending/

http://www.golfwrx.c...aper-tips-bent/

http://www.golfwrx.c...per-durability/

Edited by Nessism, 21 February 2017 - 06:02 PM.

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 11:34 AM

Another 'affirmative' from me.  Several bent shafts.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 06:30 PM

Sorry to bump this, but is this problem limited to C-Taper or are all KBS prone to bending? About to do a fitting and tempted to just avoid KBS shafts based on some of these bent tip posts.
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Posted 11 April 2017 - 07:41 PM

I believe it is just the C-Tapers.  KBS is good about replacing them though - just give 'em a call.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 07:49 PM

View Postjkc-rva, on 11 April 2017 - 07:41 PM, said:

I believe it is just the C-Tapers.  KBS is good about replacing them though - just give 'em a call.

From what I have read in other threads on this subject, the problem is not just limited to the original KBS C-Taper shaft.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 08:51 PM

Hey Bobcat, how is your SLDR C working out? See you still have it in your sig.

And back on original post, I've only had KBS shafts for the last 10 years or so, KBS Tour/KBS C-Taper/KBS Tour-V, and have had no bending issues.  (I don't swing as hard as many guys on here, so maybe that's part of the reason why I haven't)?

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 03:00 PM

Have read several comments of Tour-V with bent tips.

As mentioned, KBS will replace if you contact them.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:53 AM

Sadly I've had need to read through all these archived stories, my backup set of MP54s with KBS Tours (less than 10 rounds played) has developed an issue which I didn't believe till I pulled the 7i.......really gutted.

Does anyone know if KBS are still resolving these issues and if anyone in Europe has been through the dialogue with them.  I'm thinking that with a set of Mizzys purchased in 2014 im going to get left high and dry here.  

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:12 AM

When my ctapers were bent they didn't ask how old they were, just sent replacements. Replacements are 2 years old and I'm purposely ignoring them, blissful ignorance. Doesn't hurt to ask, but being in Europe certainly complicates things.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:25 AM

Slightly off topic.... but might help.
I emailed KBS about replacement shaft labels, they were really helpful and said then send some.  I just assumed I was dealing with someone in Europe as I gave my location from the outset.
Labels arrived really quickly, sent from the US.  So they have decent global customer service IMO.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:36 AM

View PostVNutz, on 08 September 2017 - 06:12 AM, said:

When my ctapers were bent they didn't ask how old they were, just sent replacements. Replacements are 2 years old and I'm purposely ignoring them, blissful ignorance. Doesn't hurt to ask, but being in Europe certainly complicates things.

View PostChip_Unsure, on 08 September 2017 - 06:25 AM, said:

Slightly off topic.... but might help.
I emailed KBS about replacement shaft labels, they were really helpful and said then send some.  I just assumed I was dealing with someone in Europe as I gave my location from the outset.
Labels arrived really quickly, sent from the US.  So they have decent global customer service IMO.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:53 AM

Is this still a thing?  Disconcerting

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:32 AM

View PostOldboy, on 08 September 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

Is this still a thing?  Disconcerting

Unfortunately yes.  Very much so.  I can't believe they can't fix it from an engineering standpoint.

I pulled my tour V 120x's this spring after 7 months to check them.  7 and pitch, my two most used clubs, were bent. CS  Rep was very polite about it and sent me a new set, but it just shouldn't still be happening. At this point it's just weird that they can't do anything about it.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:40 AM

I have owned Tour's 130X, C-Taper 125 S+ and now $-Taper 130X and never had an issue.  With that being said I know they used to have issues and if the irons were 4 years old this could have been in those older batches, just because the irons are 4 years old the shafts could be much older.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 01:09 PM

I've been contacted by KBS after raising a ticket and have been asked for supporting evidence (pics) to prove the tip failure.  

Not fully resolved yet but I've made some progress and they are indicating that a warranty replacement is possible.  My main concern is that the whole set could be flawed.  

My OCD will be working over time on this.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:51 PM

Given i have the 120s I'm now paranoid... Is there anyway to tell if they are bent by a change in performance or feel?

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:55 PM

View PostFlyingLaw1, on 08 September 2017 - 11:51 PM, said:

Given i have the 120s I'm now paranoid... Is there anyway to tell if they are bent by a change in performance or feel?

They don't feel any different.  Your lofts change. Check your lofts and see if they have migrated more than a degree.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:58 PM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 08 September 2017 - 11:55 PM, said:

View PostFlyingLaw1, on 08 September 2017 - 11:51 PM, said:

Given i have the 120s I'm now paranoid... Is there anyway to tell if they are bent by a change in performance or feel?

They don't feel any different.  Your lofts change. Check your lofts and see if they have migrated more than a degree.

Ah should have guessed that... Thanks!

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 01:21 PM

View PostFlyingLaw1, on 08 September 2017 - 11:58 PM, said:

View PostJagpilotohio, on 08 September 2017 - 11:55 PM, said:

View PostFlyingLaw1, on 08 September 2017 - 11:51 PM, said:

Given i have the 120s I'm now paranoid... Is there anyway to tell if they are bent by a change in performance or feel?

They don't feel any different.  Your lofts change. Check your lofts and see if they have migrated more than a degree.

Ah should have guessed that... Thanks!

For my 7i the lie angle and offset were all screwed up..... That's what triggered it for me.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:31 PM

View PostTheInfidel, on 08 September 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

I've been contacted by KBS after raising a ticket and have been asked for supporting evidence (pics) to prove the tip failure.  

Not fully resolved yet but I've made some progress and they are indicating that a warranty replacement is possible.  My main concern is that the whole set could be flawed.  

My OCD will be working over time on this.

I don't think they deal with single irons, but full sets. I was sent a full set.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:33 PM

View PostFlyingLaw1, on 08 September 2017 - 11:51 PM, said:

Given i have the 120s I'm now paranoid... Is there anyway to tell if they are bent by a change in performance or feel?

Performance didn't change. I had some that you could see looking down on them. Others had a slight banana like bend to them between the grip and clubhead.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 05:10 PM

I bought some 130x's off the bst a while ago and a couple of them were bent. Luckily KBS replaced them for free. It's a shame as these are my favorite shaft

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:42 AM

I guess the dilemma is, stick with a new set of KBS Tours (if replaced under warranty) or abandon a shaft that this could happen to?  I've never had this happen to any other steel shaft.  The cost of making up a new set, ferrules and grips etc, isn't insignificant.
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:47 PM

Heard back from KBS this evening. They're having a UK distributor mail me out a new set of shafts. Tip bending was as bad in the other mid irons also. Just need to re-spec the set now and shell out for grips and ferrules. Overall excellent customer experience.
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Posted Today, 02:40 AM

Hi, I have the same issue here on a set of KBS Ctaper's 120S. My PW is bent. I sent a mail through their website more than a week ago and I don't have any reply. How did you all proceed to get in touch??
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