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Quick 2017 Pro V1 and Pro V1x Trackman Review


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#61 G-Bone

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 04:19 PM

View Postmoonshine, on 21 February 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

Only thing I'm wondering is where in Michigan and on what surface are you comparing greenside spin?  I certainly notice a tad firmer feel in the test sleeve of ProV I received over previous gen balls.  However, since I'm low spin dude I defer to ProV all the time...or another brand.  I'm still on the B330 for now but mostly because of cost vs. performance.  I like the logo....Lord knows you dropped a few dimes after your wonderful test.

moonshine, virtually all of my green side testing was done in Florida.  I have made a few trips down this winter and have had the good fortune to play several rounds of golf while testing a handful of balls in the process.  I will be headed to PGA Village tomorrow, where I look forward to playing six rounds with the same ball... it has been awhile sense I've done that. haha!

Also, thanks for the props on the logo and testing!

Edited by G-Bone, 21 February 2017 - 04:20 PM.

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 04:27 PM

View PostG-Bone, on 21 February 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

View Postdrvrwdge, on 21 February 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

Awesome review. Its actually very shocking to me that the V1 was longer throughout the bag than the XV. My only guess is it may be a SS thing sine I believe the XV has a much higher compression... Not knocking you so please dont take offense but I think you have to have a SS up over 110 to get the full potential out of the XV (which you may have so in that case my point is mute).

Thank you for your kind words, always appreciated!

No offense taken, actually I would imagine you are 100% correct... My driver average is about 100 mph.

It's great that golf enthusiasts such as all of us WRX'rs are lucky enough to have so many high quality ball choices to choose from... different "strokes" for different folks.

I currently have been playing the '17 XV, bought a bunch of the 6-ball trial packs, but all these reviews of the '17 V1's has me seriously considering them. I did get a sleeve from my pro prior to release that were labeled "Test" and the first full wedge shot I hit fish scaled it. Would never have to worry about that with the XV. Needless to say I have yet hit the other 2 balls from the V1 Test sleeve.

He did however tell me that the rep had told him that a lot of guys that played the V1x last year had switched to the V1.

Edited by drvrwdge, 21 February 2017 - 04:28 PM.

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:10 AM

you should hit the V1.... i played one along side a 330s yesterday while playing 2 balls each hole on 9 holes... i was very suprised.... the flight is so stable...and spin is very much noticibly less than v1X.... Its long off driver for sure...  I see no issue with durability.... and for what its worth i fish scaled 3 2015 prov1x balls 3 weeks ago in one round  with a set of vega wedges i had ( conforming) ... i think that has more to do with leading edge than anything... but it can be done .. off driver and putter it passes the test as excellent...  irons and wedges im still going to test more.... its less spin than the 330s though for sure..   point is you should try them for sure..really different ball than the 2015 v1 version

edit ...just realized you are talikng about the srixon XV.... sorry ...cant speak the comparsion on those...

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:17 AM

View Postmoonshine, on 21 February 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

Only thing I'm wondering is where in Michigan and on what surface are you comparing greenside spin?  I certainly notice a tad firmer feel in the test sleeve of ProV I received over previous gen balls.  However, since I'm low spin dude I defer to ProV all the time...or another brand.  I'm still on the B330 for now but mostly because of cost vs. performance.  I like the logo....Lord knows you dropped a few dimes after your wonderful test.


We're getting crazy weather in MI, my course is open and rolled the greens over the weekend and they are stimping at a 10 already!
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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:40 AM

View Postswizbeatz, on 22 February 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

View Postmoonshine, on 21 February 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

Only thing I'm wondering is where in Michigan and on what surface are you comparing greenside spin?  I certainly notice a tad firmer feel in the test sleeve of ProV I received over previous gen balls.  However, since I'm low spin dude I defer to ProV all the time...or another brand.  I'm still on the B330 for now but mostly because of cost vs. performance.  I like the logo....Lord knows you dropped a few dimes after your wonderful test.


We're getting crazy weather in MI, my course is open and rolled the greens over the weekend and they are stimping at a 10 already!

Played over the weekend at Indianwood... crazy good weather!

Leaving for OW's place this afternoon... almost as warm as here lol

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 04:21 PM

Thank you taking the time to post the comparisons between ProV1 and ProV1X. I have always been a V1 but will have to wait til spring for the buy 3 get one free to try both out.

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 12:45 PM

so, as a low ball/low spin hitter (105 SS), would the V1X be better?
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:11 PM

View Postnaws-golfer, on 23 February 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

so, as a low ball/low spin hitter (105 SS), would the V1X be better?

In my opinion, based on the first two statements, I would say yes, V1x could certainly suit you well.  Not sure with the new ball swing speed has as much to do with your choice.
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 09:08 AM

i've always liked the X over the V1
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 11:01 AM

I get low spin with my driver, middle of the road spin with my irons, but would like a little more green side spin. It's always been a dilemma choosing which ball will work best. Needless to say, I have a large amount of different balls laying around. I've always been an X player, but I think I'm leaning V1 with the new model. I've never gamed either model of ProV1 for more than a couple rounds, but the new ProV1 really has me intrigued.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:01 AM

Just a quick follow up:

I have about 20 rounds under my belt with 2017 V, here are a few of my observations:

- Full club longer with driver and 4 wood than 2015 X!
- Half club longer with hybrids and long irons
- A couple of yards longer with rest of irons and wedges
- Awesome for low "zippers" when firing at green from 50 yards and in
- Extra bite around the greens has really allowed me to be aggressive and creative when recovering from missed greens
- LOVE the mid ball flight!  Makes it much easier to flight the ball with every club, yet I can still tee it high and hit high bombs with driver when down wind or from an elevated tee box.

Play well, my friends.

PS - I absolutely love 2017 V1 for my game!  So much so that I gave away my remaining 2015 X's and couldn't be happier to see them go.

Edited by G-Bone, 13 March 2017 - 10:39 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 02:22 AM

View PostG-Bone, on 13 March 2017 - 01:01 AM, said:

Just a quick follow up:

I have about 20 rounds under my belt with 2017 V, here are a few of my observations:

- Full club longer with driver and 4 wood than 2015 X!
- Half club longer with hybrids and long irons
- A couple of yards longer with rest of irons and wedges
- Awesome for low "zippers" when firing at green from 50 yards and in
- Extra bite around the greens has really allowed me to be aggressive and creative when recovering from missed greens
- LOVE the mid ball flight!  Makes it much easier to flight the ball with every club, yet I can still tee it high and hit high bombs with driver when down wind or from an elevated tee box.

Play well, my friend.

I absolutely love 2017 V1 for my game!  So much so that I gave away my remaining 2015 X's and couldn't be happier to see them go.

You convinced me to unload my 2015 1x stock.  You are now on the hook for my golf game this year since I'm moving to the 2017 V1.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:40 AM

View PostLord Helmet, on 13 March 2017 - 02:22 AM, said:

View PostG-Bone, on 13 March 2017 - 01:01 AM, said:

Just a quick follow up:

I have about 20 rounds under my belt with 2017 V, here are a few of my observations:

- Full club longer with driver and 4 wood than 2015 X!
- Half club longer with hybrids and long irons
- A couple of yards longer with rest of irons and wedges
- Awesome for low "zippers" when firing at green from 50 yards and in
- Extra bite around the greens has really allowed me to be aggressive and creative when recovering from missed greens
- LOVE the mid ball flight!  Makes it much easier to flight the ball with every club, yet I can still tee it high and hit high bombs with driver when down wind or from an elevated tee box.

Play well, my friend.

I absolutely love 2017 V1 for my game!  So much so that I gave away my remaining 2015 X's and couldn't be happier to see them go.

You convinced me to unload my 2015 1x stock.  You are now on the hook for my golf game this year since I'm moving to the 2017 V1.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 08:41 AM

i committed and made the 4 for 3 order yesterday for ProV1, it'll be my first time playing a non-X ball in a while.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 09:09 AM

View PostG-Bone, on 13 March 2017 - 01:01 AM, said:

Just a quick follow up:

I have about 20 rounds under my belt with 2017 V, here are a few of my observations:

- Full club longer with driver and 4 wood than 2015 X!
- Half club longer with hybrids and long irons
- A couple of yards longer with rest of irons and wedges
- Awesome for low "zippers" when firing at green from 50 yards and in
- Extra bite around the greens has really allowed me to be aggressive and creative when recovering from missed greens
- LOVE the mid ball flight!  Makes it much easier to flight the ball with every club, yet I can still tee it high and hit high bombs with driver when down wind or from an elevated tee box.

Play well, my friend.

I absolutely love 2017 V1 for my game!  So much so that I gave away my remaining 2015 X's and couldn't be happier to see them go.

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Have you been back on trackman to confirm that there was no distance loss/2 mph lower ball speed with the irons? I really want to like the 2017 ProV1, it feels perfect and I love the lower flight. I only gave 2017 ProV1 one round and then jumped on the TP5X train, but the high ball flight is not what I need. I'm going to give it another shot.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:11 PM

View PostG-Bone, on 13 March 2017 - 01:01 AM, said:

Just a quick follow up:

I have about 20 rounds under my belt with 2017 V, here are a few of my observations:

- Full club longer with driver and 4 wood than 2015 X!
- Half club longer with hybrids and long irons
- A couple of yards longer with rest of irons and wedges
- Awesome for low "zippers" when firing at green from 50 yards and in
- Extra bite around the greens has really allowed me to be aggressive and creative when recovering from missed greens
- LOVE the mid ball flight!  Makes it much easier to flight the ball with every club, yet I can still tee it high and hit high bombs with driver when down wind or from an elevated tee box.

Play well, my friend.

I absolutely love 2017 V1 for my game!  So much so that I gave away my remaining 2015 X's and couldn't be happier to see them go.

Appreciate all the time you took but I find it interesting that this contradicts most of your initial trackman recordings. I'm genuinely curious, not trying to come off as a dick so I apologize if it sounds that way.
I think our subconscious minds play a larger role than what we realize and maybe the fact that you're becoming more comfortable and excited about playing the ball is yielding a more positive outcome.
I much prefer what people find on the course anyway. I like reviews like yours. Often times you'll see replies in ball threads like "I tried XYZ ball for one hole and it's a pos, I'm selling the other 11 I have." Comical.
Either way, I'm glad you found a ball that seems to really fit the bill for you. You've sparked my interest in grabbing a box to check out. Love the fact it's a lower trajectory but doesn't spin like crazy from the tee.
Thanks again.

Edited by danielryanw, 13 March 2017 - 12:13 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:17 PM

Also like that there wasn't the typical "normally I hit my 9i 150 but I had a shot uphill into the wind with a back pin location at 180 and landed it just off the back edge and it went into the rough, but still managed to get up and down for par"..... smh
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 10:42 PM

View PosteRock_Reno, on 13 March 2017 - 09:09 AM, said:

View PostG-Bone, on 13 March 2017 - 01:01 AM, said:

Just a quick follow up:

I have about 20 rounds under my belt with 2017 V, here are a few of my observations:

- Full club longer with driver and 4 wood than 2015 X!
- Half club longer with hybrids and long irons
- A couple of yards longer with rest of irons and wedges
- Awesome for low "zippers" when firing at green from 50 yards and in
- Extra bite around the greens has really allowed me to be aggressive and creative when recovering from missed greens
- LOVE the mid ball flight!  Makes it much easier to flight the ball with every club, yet I can still tee it high and hit high bombs with driver when down wind or from an elevated tee box.

Play well, my friend.

I absolutely love 2017 V1 for my game!  So much so that I gave away my remaining 2015 X's and couldn't be happier to see them go.

G-Bone

Have you been back on trackman to confirm that there was no distance loss/2 mph lower ball speed with the irons? I really want to like the 2017 ProV1, it feels perfect and I love the lower flight. I only gave 2017 ProV1 one round and then jumped on the TP5X train, but the high ball flight is not what I need. I'm going to give it another shot.

Yes, once I realized how much I liked the 17 V1, I got back on Trackman for a short session... I had to see the numbers just to be "sure" I could wrap my mind around playing the V over the X (I can be a bit of a head case when it comes to my golf balls lol). Ball speed and distance were both better than my initial Trackman testing.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 10:50 PM

View Postdanielryanw, on 13 March 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:

View PostG-Bone, on 13 March 2017 - 01:01 AM, said:

Just a quick follow up:

I have about 20 rounds under my belt with 2017 V, here are a few of my observations:

- Full club longer with driver and 4 wood than 2015 X!
- Half club longer with hybrids and long irons
- A couple of yards longer with rest of irons and wedges
- Awesome for low "zippers" when firing at green from 50 yards and in
- Extra bite around the greens has really allowed me to be aggressive and creative when recovering from missed greens
- LOVE the mid ball flight!  Makes it much easier to flight the ball with every club, yet I can still tee it high and hit high bombs with driver when down wind or from an elevated tee box.

Play well, my friend.

I absolutely love 2017 V1 for my game!  So much so that I gave away my remaining 2015 X's and couldn't be happier to see them go.

Appreciate all the time you took but I find it interesting that this contradicts most of your initial trackman recordings. I'm genuinely curious, not trying to come off as a dick so I apologize if it sounds that way.
I think our subconscious minds play a larger role than what we realize and maybe the fact that you're becoming more comfortable and excited about playing the ball is yielding a more positive outcome.
I much prefer what people find on the course anyway. I like reviews like yours. Often times you'll see replies in ball threads like "I tried XYZ ball for one hole and it's a pos, I'm selling the other 11 I have." Comical.
Either way, I'm glad you found a ball that seems to really fit the bill for you. You've sparked my interest in grabbing a box to check out. Love the fact it's a lower trajectory but doesn't spin like crazy from the tee.
Thanks again.

Thanks for your input, and believe me, all feedback is valued... never any offense taken here.

I buy new balls and fire them on to a live range while doing my Trackman testing (to see actual ball flight). Because of this, I put a lot of pressure on myself to hit good shots... it can get expensive quick! Lol

So, every once in awhile it can bring some odd results, as in stearing my shots instead of swinging freely.

Also, I strongly agree with your "subconscious comment"... I think that certainly makes a difference for most of us. Now that I've grown comfortable with 2017 V1 I do believe I strike it with more confidence and less curiosity, if that makes sense.
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Posted 14 March 2017 - 08:24 AM

wait....you're hitting balls out onto a range never to be retrieved?  

f'n hell....that's a pricey venture.

i could see myself doing that, but i'd do it when no one else is on the range and i'd be out there with the shag bag picking them after.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:30 PM

View Posttnord, on 14 March 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

wait....you're hitting balls out onto a range never to be retrieved?  

f'n hell....that's a pricey venture.

i could see myself doing that, but i'd do it when no one else is on the range and i'd be out there with the shag bag picking them after.

You are correct.... I have a little bit of what my friends call, "a problem." ;)
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 03:25 AM

LIttle late in the game here, but great thread, I read the entire thing, appreciate all the work OP put into the review.  Curious to see what OP thinks about my potential ball change here:

A little about my game: Got down to scratch last summer, been gaming the V1x since it first came out.  I used to be a high launch, high spin player and used to swing really hard, 116-118 driver SS.  Now that I've gotten a bit older my SS has dropped quite a bit and I'm more about hitting fairways than trying to hit it 300 yards every hole, my driver SS is probably around 108-110 range, which is still plenty fast for me.  I also started hitting the ball a LOT lower.  My spectrum of drivers went from playing a 44" 8.5 deg X-stiff heavy shaft driver to a 45" 11.5 deg stiff flex lighter shaft driver over the course of 6 years or so.

Now about the ball choice, I don't know if it's my ego talking "I don't wanna play the reg Pro V1, I play the X because it goes farther and I swing fast enough blah blah."  But I was seriously considering switching over to the V1 reg as I was always under the impression the V1x launched lower with less spin (on all shots).  Now that it seems the 2017 V1x is actually higher launching and higher spinning it might actually be the "ball change" I need.  I've always liked the soft feel of the reg V1 with shots around the green, but was under the impression it was way too spinny on full wedge shots and ballooned off the tee.  I would like a higher launch with my driver (obviously since I'm gaming a 10.5 G30 turned up a degree haha), I think "changing" to the new 2017 V1x might be the ball to go to?

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 11:23 AM

View PostDeuce Pot, on 13 April 2017 - 03:25 AM, said:

LIttle late in the game here, but great thread, I read the entire thing, appreciate all the work OP put into the review.  Curious to see what OP thinks about my potential ball change here:

A little about my game: Got down to scratch last summer, been gaming the V1x since it first came out.  I used to be a high launch, high spin player and used to swing really hard, 116-118 driver SS.  Now that I've gotten a bit older my SS has dropped quite a bit and I'm more about hitting fairways than trying to hit it 300 yards every hole, my driver SS is probably around 108-110 range, which is still plenty fast for me.  I also started hitting the ball a LOT lower.  My spectrum of drivers went from playing a 44" 8.5 deg X-stiff heavy shaft driver to a 45" 11.5 deg stiff flex lighter shaft driver over the course of 6 years or so.

Now about the ball choice, I don't know if it's my ego talking "I don't wanna play the reg Pro V1, I play the X because it goes farther and I swing fast enough blah blah."  But I was seriously considering switching over to the V1 reg as I was always under the impression the V1x launched lower with less spin (on all shots).  Now that it seems the 2017 V1x is actually higher launching and higher spinning it might actually be the "ball change" I need.  I've always liked the soft feel of the reg V1 with shots around the green, but was under the impression it was way too spinny on full wedge shots and ballooned off the tee.  I would like a higher launch with my driver (obviously since I'm gaming a 10.5 G30 turned up a degree haha), I think "changing" to the new 2017 V1x might be the ball to go to?

Approximate distances for reference:

D: 275
4i: 205
7i: 175
PW: 135

Duece,

I completely understand the whole "Pro V1x = tough guy thing," I had to check my ego at the first tee, too. LOL

Being that you read the thread, I won't bore you with any repetitive details of why I chose 17 V or how well it fits my game.  A lot of people were shocked about Titleist's announcement with the "big switch" with V and X this year, but I wasn't overly surprised, as I have spent a lot of time over the years testing balls and new full well X has spun more off irons and full wedges for some versions now.

This is my summary:
1. If you have a positive AoA with driver, most likely you will not lose distance off the tee with V.  If you have negative AoA (like many PGA Pro's) X may be a better fit; perhaps slightly less spin with higher launch.
2. If you prefer to flight your short irons, V offers more options and control.
3. If you over spin your short irons on full shots, V is much more predictable and often a better fit.
4. If you require more green side spin, V is the answer.
5. Finally, if you prefer softer feel, V is the one.

Now, if you need higher ball flight, help stopping approach shots on the green, maximum distance (2-3 yards per club) or prefer a firmer feel, 17 X is likely your go to.

Titleist claims ball speed doesn't matter with 17 V and X... and from what fitters are telling me, they agree.

Please let me know if I can be of anymore assistance.
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 11:59 AM

View PostG-Bone, on 13 April 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

Now, if you need higher ball flight, help stopping approach shots on the green, maximum distance (2-3 yards per club) or prefer a firmer feel, 17 X is likely your go to.

That's my experience right there, all the way back in the 2013/2014 versions (last time I used Titleist balls). Absolutely higher flight with the X which is a great help for me off the tee for maximum carry. As much iron and full wedge shot stopping power as any ball out there. And I did think, although could not say with 100% certainty, that the X was a couple yards longer throughout the bag.

For me it is overall a small but definite help for an elevation and spin challenged golfer. Any concern about supposedly matching the version to clubhead speed went out the window as soon as I tried them. I've found that the B330 or B330S works as well for me as the 2013 ProV1x but certainly haven't found anything better.

And if you knew me, you'd know that my equipment choices are certainly not "manhood" driven!
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 03:43 PM

Regarding the "manhood" thing and I don't swing fast enough, all I can you is that the wife (high single digit handicap who hits her driver about 180-190) plays the ProV1 X. Has tried numerous balls and she hits the ProV1 X farther than any other ball and spins it more on full shots. She has always hit the ball extremely low and is now hitting the ball a little higher but still on the low side.

A couple of weeks ago she hit the 17 ProV1 X and was consistently hitting it 5-10 yards farther off the driver than the 15 and higher with both the driver and the irons. What is interesting is that several times into the wind she hit it 15-20 yards farther than she normally does.

I've played one round with the 17 X and, for me, it was consistently 10 yards farther than the 15 X. I had one drive that was a good 20-25 yards past where I had ever hit a drive before on that hole and the wind and fairway conditions were nothing unusual.

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:15 PM

View PostG-Bone, on 13 April 2017 - 11:23 AM, said:

View PostDeuce Pot, on 13 April 2017 - 03:25 AM, said:

LIttle late in the game here, but great thread, I read the entire thing, appreciate all the work OP put into the review.  Curious to see what OP thinks about my potential ball change here:

A little about my game: Got down to scratch last summer, been gaming the V1x since it first came out.  I used to be a high launch, high spin player and used to swing really hard, 116-118 driver SS.  Now that I've gotten a bit older my SS has dropped quite a bit and I'm more about hitting fairways than trying to hit it 300 yards every hole, my driver SS is probably around 108-110 range, which is still plenty fast for me.  I also started hitting the ball a LOT lower.  My spectrum of drivers went from playing a 44" 8.5 deg X-stiff heavy shaft driver to a 45" 11.5 deg stiff flex lighter shaft driver over the course of 6 years or so.

Now about the ball choice, I don't know if it's my ego talking "I don't wanna play the reg Pro V1, I play the X because it goes farther and I swing fast enough blah blah."  But I was seriously considering switching over to the V1 reg as I was always under the impression the V1x launched lower with less spin (on all shots).  Now that it seems the 2017 V1x is actually higher launching and higher spinning it might actually be the "ball change" I need.  I've always liked the soft feel of the reg V1 with shots around the green, but was under the impression it was way too spinny on full wedge shots and ballooned off the tee.  I would like a higher launch with my driver (obviously since I'm gaming a 10.5 G30 turned up a degree haha), I think "changing" to the new 2017 V1x might be the ball to go to?

Approximate distances for reference:

D: 275
4i: 205
7i: 175
PW: 135

Duece,

I completely understand the whole "Pro V1x = tough guy thing," I had to check my ego at the first tee, too. LOL

Being that you read the thread, I won't bore you with any repetitive details of why I chose 17 V or how well it fits my game.  A lot of people were shocked about Titleist's announcement with the "big switch" with V and X this year, but I wasn't overly surprised, as I have spent a lot of time over the years testing balls and new full well X has spun more off irons and full wedges for some versions now.

This is my summary:
1. If you have a positive AoA with driver, most likely you will not lose distance off the tee with V.  If you have negative AoA (like many PGA Pro's) X may be a better fit; perhaps slightly less spin with higher launch.
2. If you prefer to flight your short irons, V offers more options and control.
3. If you over spin your short irons on full shots, V is much more predictable and often a better fit.
4. If you require more green side spin, V is the answer.
5. Finally, if you prefer softer feel, V is the one.

Now, if you need higher ball flight, help stopping approach shots on the green, maximum distance (2-3 yards per club) or prefer a firmer feel, 17 X is likely your go to.

Titleist claims ball speed doesn't matter with 17 V and X... and from what fitters are telling me, they agree.

Please let me know if I can be of anymore assistance.

Thanks for the quick reply, I'm leaning the X for now, but will likely need to test both just to make sure as both seem to be very good balls.  Again, appreciate all the work you put into this review (and $ for those Pro Vs in the range!).  Cheers
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:23 PM

View PostNorth Texas, on 13 April 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Regarding the "manhood" thing and I don't swing fast enough, all I can you is that the wife (high single digit handicap who hits her driver about 180-190) plays the ProV1 X. Has tried numerous balls and she hits the ProV1 X farther than any other ball and spins it more on full shots. She has always hit the ball extremely low and is now hitting the ball a little higher but still on the low side.

A couple of weeks ago she hit the 17 ProV1 X and was consistently hitting it 5-10 yards farther off the driver than the 15 and higher with both the driver and the irons. What is interesting is that several times into the wind she hit it 15-20 yards farther than she normally does.

I've played one round with the 17 X and, for me, it was consistently 10 yards farther than the 15 X. I had one drive that was a good 20-25 yards past where I had ever hit a drive before on that hole and the wind and fairway conditions were nothing unusual.

Great information, thank you for sharing!

A note on distance - for me on Trackman, 2017 X was nine yards longer in the air and 2017 V was seven yards longer in the air, when compared to 2015 X.
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Posted 15 April 2017 - 02:40 PM

I just played in serious wind.  Tried both the new balls.  Feel goes to the v1 for me.  Used 2 balls at the start of round, 1x was longer off long clubs, irons, and wedges.  Wind was behind me.   Back into the wind, 1x was still longer with all the clubs.  Flight was virtually identical on both.  I shot a 76 today.  Think I'm sticking 1x.  Both balls are longer than the  2015 1x.
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Posted 15 April 2017 - 08:14 PM

Awesome review. Thanks.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 11:06 AM

View PostLord Helmet, on 15 April 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

I just played in serious wind.  Tried both the new balls.  Feel goes to the v1 for me.  Used 2 balls at the start of round, 1x was longer off long clubs, irons, and wedges.  Wind was behind me.   Back into the wind, 1x was still longer with all the clubs.  Flight was virtually identical on both.  I shot a 76 today.  Think I'm sticking 1x.  Both balls are longer than the  2015 1x.

I found the X got eaten up by headwinds by a little bit. Like 2-3 yards compared to the V. I could definitely tell a difference in apex height (X being higher) between the two on full shots and in anything but a headwind the X gave me an extra 5-6 yards. What did you think of the short game performance? I thought they performed identically, and I liked the firmer feel of the X anyways. So I went with the X, knowing that the only performance I was sacrificing was into the wind.

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