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Tell-Tale Signs of Fake Epons -- or the Contact at Epon for help


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#1 mbrown1833

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:39 AM

Epon irons are beautiful but I'm having a hard time telling if any given set are legitimate or not.  And I also can't find the contact for Epon to tell me if they are to not.  Very difficult to buy a product if there isn't a contact set up from the company's website!

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#2 Nessism

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:49 AM

Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:52 AM

View PostNessism, on 25 January 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?

no offense but I think you answered your own question.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:00 PM

Epon probably is able to track/identify clubs more easily since they produce less volume. This generally should make it harder for fakes to sneak into the market.

Edited by Tex1986, 25 January 2017 - 01:11 PM.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:03 PM

In the "FWIW" department.....if you want the real thing, get it from the real people making it.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:12 PM

View Postmbrown1833, on 25 January 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

View PostNessism, on 25 January 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?

no offense but I think you answered your own question.

Sorry for my snarking reply.  It's just that we get a lot of these threads where someone is questioning the legitimacy of some very low volume and specialized clubs that the counterfeiter guys wouldn't bother to copy because there is no real market for them.  If you are still worried just purchase from a place like Fairway Golf or Tour Spec Golf that sell a lot of JDM clubs.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:44 PM

View PostTex1986, on 25 January 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

Epon probably is able to track/identify clubs more easily since they produce less volume. This generally should make it harder for fakes to sneak into the market.

If a customer can't get ahold of Epon, it doesn't matter if they track or not.. do you have their contact info? (:

View Postaugustgolf, on 25 January 2017 - 01:03 PM, said:

In the "FWIW" department.....if you want the real thing, get it from the real people making it.

They're involved in a trade... (:

Edited by mbrown1833, 25 January 2017 - 01:46 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:09 PM

Do you have a picture?
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 03:06 PM

View PostNessism, on 25 January 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

View Postmbrown1833, on 25 January 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

View PostNessism, on 25 January 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?

no offense but I think you answered your own question.

Sorry for my snarking reply.  It's just that we get a lot of these threads where someone is questioning the legitimacy of some very low volume and specialized clubs that the counterfeiter guys wouldn't bother to copy because there is no real market for them.  If you are still worried just purchase from a place like Fairway Golf or Tour Spec Golf that sell a lot of JDM clubs.
both Epon/Miura are counterfeited in China/ SE Asia where golfers are still less knowledgeable about equipment in general. I have seen first hand some fairly ridiculous fake clubs out there from every brand.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 03:30 PM

View Postroadtrippin4550, on 25 January 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

Do you have a picture?

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 07:17 PM

View Postmbrown1833, on 25 January 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

View PostTex1986, on 25 January 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

Epon probably is able to track/identify clubs more easily since they produce less volume. This generally should make it harder for fakes to sneak into the market.

If a customer can't get ahold of Epon, it doesn't matter if they track or not.. do you have their contact info? (:

View Postaugustgolf, on 25 January 2017 - 01:03 PM, said:

In the "FWIW" department.....if you want the real thing, get it from the real people making it.

They're involved in a trade... (:

No idea about their contact info. Epons are out of my price range. I bet their company website has a general contact email/phone#.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 07:52 PM

View PostTex1986, on 25 January 2017 - 07:17 PM, said:

View Postmbrown1833, on 25 January 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

View PostTex1986, on 25 January 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

Epon probably is able to track/identify clubs more easily since they produce less volume. This generally should make it harder for fakes to sneak into the market.

If a customer can't get ahold of Epon, it doesn't matter if they track or not.. do you have their contact info? (:

View Postaugustgolf, on 25 January 2017 - 01:03 PM, said:

In the "FWIW" department.....if you want the real thing, get it from the real people making it.

They're involved in a trade... (:

No idea about their contact info. Epons are out of my price range. I bet their company website has a general contact email/phone#.

it does not. obi first place i looked (;
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 08:04 PM

Contact Endo and ask for a US based contact...http://endo-mfg.co.jp/eng/
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:17 PM

Not many Personal's out there. Especially in that condition. I think they only made 500 sets. A company called AFD made a set similar to those called the Air Muscle. Similar...

I personally don't think yours are fake. They look legit. Beautiful set

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:36 PM

Super fake.

I'll take em off your hands for $200 though (you know, as an act of goodwill towards someone who got scammed)


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 02:29 AM

Everything looks good.

The finish is correct, the number font looks right, the "forged" stamping is the proper font and correct size, the serial number is in the proper alpha numeric order and correct size.

I would say they are legit.
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Posted 26 January 2017 - 03:40 AM

View PostNessism, on 25 January 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

Who in their right mind would counterfeit a club that only sells a few hundred sets a year?
I've seen fake Epons. They were very poor copies but fakes nevertheless.
Those personals in the pics look legit for sure.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 04:50 AM

You can contact the USA distributor for epon...William Cho novagolf. I'd buy epon from legit and honest dealers...top 100 comes to mind.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 01:26 PM

I've had success in the past contacting Epon via inquiry@epongolf.co.jp


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 01:30 PM

Legit 100 %

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 02:49 PM

Thank you, everyone, for your help.  Much appreciated.  

I ended up picking them up from a great member here.  If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons.  Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons.  So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 06:52 PM

Just to add a little more info, the serial number on Epons is only on the 7i.

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Posted 27 January 2017 - 11:44 PM

View Postmbrown1833, on 26 January 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Thank you, everyone, for your help.  Much appreciated.  

I ended up picking them up from a great member here.  If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons.  Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons.  So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!

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might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic?   I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 01:03 AM

Don't mind at all and would do the same, if I were in your shoes! ;)

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 08:54 AM

View Postbladehunter, on 27 January 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

View Postmbrown1833, on 26 January 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Thank you, everyone, for your help.  Much appreciated.  

I ended up picking them up from a great member here.  If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons.  Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons.  So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!

Regards,
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might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic?   I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..

I no longer have that putter but am actually trying to get it back.  You are correct about the different lengths and it is on the longer side but it is not totally face-balanced.

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 09:28 AM

View Postmbrown1833, on 28 January 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 27 January 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

View Postmbrown1833, on 26 January 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Thank you, everyone, for your help.  Much appreciated.  

I ended up picking them up from a great member here.  If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons.  Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons.  So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!

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might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic?   I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..

I no longer have that putter but am actually trying to get it back.  You are correct about the different lengths and it is on the longer side but it is not totally face-balanced.


gotcha... well it looks like a nice piece!  and good luck getting it back... i have gotten rid of one or two in my day ( ahem GSS Ma/66 ^^^^^^^^^) that i regret .. but hey weve all done it and i guess they can all be replaced if we want to spend enough ..lol
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Posted 28 January 2017 - 11:09 AM

View Postmbrown1833, on 25 January 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

Epon irons are beautiful but I'm having a hard time telling if any given set are legitimate or not.  And I also can't find the contact for Epon to tell me if they are to not.  Very difficult to buy a product if there isn't a contact set up from the company's website!

HELP!

there are plenty sets on Alibaba

they are copies and are generally perfect except they are cast not forged

polished/satin finish  but not chrome plated

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 11:14 AM

View Postbladehunter, on 28 January 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

View Postmbrown1833, on 28 January 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 27 January 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

View Postmbrown1833, on 26 January 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Thank you, everyone, for your help.  Much appreciated.  

I ended up picking them up from a great member here.  If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons.  Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons.  So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!

Regards,
Miles


might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic?   I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..

I no longer have that putter but am actually trying to get it back.  You are correct about the different lengths and it is on the longer side but it is not totally face-balanced.


gotcha... well it looks like a nice piece!  and good luck getting it back... i have gotten rid of one or two in my day ( ahem GSS Ma/66 ^^^^^^^^^) that i regret .. but hey weve all done it and i guess they can all be replaced if we want to spend enough ..lol

What, you mean this ole thing.........??????!!! ;)

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 12:30 PM

View Posttoophewbirdies, on 28 January 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

View Postbladehunter, on 28 January 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

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View Postmbrown1833, on 26 January 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Thank you, everyone, for your help.  Much appreciated.  

I ended up picking them up from a great member here.  If he sees the post I hope he doesn't mind-- I just have no idea with Japanese irons.  Camerons I can look at all day and get probably 95% but I've been a Titleist loyalist for a long time and am now pretty deep in Japanese irons.  So any bit helps-- I really appreciate it!

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Miles


might i ask how long the longneck is in your avatar pic?   I ask because im a longneck player and found that not all longnecks are the same ... i prefer longer and face balanced.. looks like that button back is on the longer side..

I no longer have that putter but am actually trying to get it back.  You are correct about the different lengths and it is on the longer side but it is not totally face-balanced.


gotcha... well it looks like a nice piece!  and good luck getting it back... i have gotten rid of one or two in my day ( ahem GSS Ma/66 ^^^^^^^^^) that i regret .. but hey weve all done it and i guess they can all be replaced if we want to spend enough ..lol

What, you mean this ole thing.........??????!!! ;)

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yea sure...rub it in !!   lol
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Posted 29 January 2017 - 12:22 AM

I bought my set of EPON AF-Tour blades from NOVOGOLF (one of the first authorized EPON dealers on the East Coast) and the only location the serial number was LASER-ETCHED (not engraved as in your pics) was on either the 6i or 7i. The Personals may be different, but I would definitely call Bill Cho at NOVOGOLF to confirm.

Edited by Mizunofan, 29 January 2017 - 11:18 PM.

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