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#781 flushem

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 08:04 PM

View PostSoonerChris, on 11 February 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

Ive read most of this thread and have a couple of questions.

Am I correct in assuming that just about anyone can increase their club head speed 10-15 mph?  In my older age (I'm 40 now) the one major area that has decreased is my distance. Ive played golf for 25+ years, am a 2 handicap but have last a lot distance over the years on all my clubs. I want my distance back!

Is it really as simple as following the routine with the weighted clubs?

Which set should I look st purchasing?  Where the best place to buy from?

Welcome a board.  I am 47, more flexible than in 20s and as long as was in 30s.  

SSG is pretty simple.  You just follow the direction as stated.  Make sure you work out regularly to support the overspeed swing and share your progress.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 11:39 PM

I have more encouraging news to deliver for those who have been struggling with being plateau'd.

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Last night, I broke 7 records out of 21 swings;  my initial driver swing and final driver swing.  I think the biggest achievements were the regular dominant side swing and the step-change dominant side swing with green club.  These are the areas where some of us had major plateau issue.  I am sure I will hit plateau once again in the same area or others.

I would like to share few changes from past two sessions (2/8 & 2/10) were:
  • I widen my stance at least an inch by moving right foot away from ball.
  • I rotate my core max and widen my backswing
  • I breath out to relax arms and shoulder at top
  • I rotate my core to initiate the downswing
Since God creates us all individually and differently, my changes may not work for you but I hope that they could be helpful.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:15 AM

I have ordered SSG and the speedradar , I will post my progress.

I am looking forward to start the workout.


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:05 AM

View Postflushem, on 11 February 2018 - 11:39 PM, said:

I have more encouraging news to deliver for those who have been struggling with being plateau'd.

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Last night, I broke 7 records out of 21 swings;  my initial driver swing and final driver swing.  I think the biggest achievements were the regular dominant side swing and the step-change dominant side swing with green club.  These are the areas where some of us had major plateau issue.  I am sure I will hit plateau once again in the same area or others.

I would like to share few changes from past two sessions (2/8 & 2/10) were:
  • I widen my stance at least an inch by moving right foot away from ball.
  • I rotate my core max and widen my backswing
  • I breath out to relax arms and shoulder at top
  • I rotate my core to initiate the downswing
Since God creates us all individually and differently, my changes may not work for you but I hope that they could be helpful.

Interesting numbers and quite the improvement. My standing green PR is 145 and my driver swing might sniff 130.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:08 AM

View Postflushem, on 11 February 2018 - 11:39 PM, said:

I have more encouraging news to deliver for those who have been struggling with being plateau'd.

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Last night, I broke 7 records out of 21 swings;  my initial driver swing and final driver swing.  I think the biggest achievements were the regular dominant side swing and the step-change dominant side swing with green club.  These are the areas where some of us had major plateau issue.  I am sure I will hit plateau once again in the same area or others.

I would like to share few changes from past two sessions (2/8 & 2/10) were:
  • I widen my stance at least an inch by moving right foot away from ball.
  • I rotate my core max and widen my backswing
  • I breath out to relax arms and shoulder at top
  • I rotate my core to initiate the downswing
Since God creates us all individually and differently, my changes may not work for you but I hope that they could be helpful.

Good results and thanks for the feedback!

Has anyone ever tried doing the non dominant side first in each workout just to change in up? I know a lot in fitness some experts say you have to be changing it up to "shock" the muscles and such by doing more weight, different movements, different order etc. maybe this could apply here as well.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:17 AM

View PostAviador Naval, on 11 February 2018 - 08:31 AM, said:

My SSG set arrives tomorrow.  I've been in the gym regularly over the past 8 or so weeks and am ready to get started.

Would somebody be willing to send me a copy of an Excel tracking sheet?  Will send my email via PM if anybody is amenable.

Public thanks to Flushem for sending a spreadsheet along.

My set will be on the porch when I get home from work.  Just finished the morning workout and while warm did a baseline speed with my Driver and 6i.  Looking forward to seeing how this goes over the coming weeks.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:03 AM

Still plugging along...albeit...plateau'd numbers.

At this point I'm perfectly fine with the numbers...so long as I can maintain them (especially on the course).  My goal has always been to get as fast as possible swinging out of my shoes on SuperSpeed (similar to Tyler Parsons)...then tighten up the on-course swing once Spring arrives.

If my numbers stay consistent and continue to show up on the course long term...I'm gonna keep grinding away through Protocol 1 and into Protocol 2.

This morning's numbers...all numbers are in MPH.

Kneel Green - 126
Kneel Blue - 121
Kneel Red - 113

Standing Green - 135
Standing Blue - 128
Standing Red - 124

Step Change Green - 140
Step Change Blue - 134
Step Change Red - 121

Final Green - 135

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:36 AM

View Postjj9000, on 12 February 2018 - 10:03 AM, said:

Still plugging along...albeit...plateau'd numbers.

At this point I'm perfectly fine with the numbers...so long as I can maintain them (especially on the course).  My goal has always been to get as fast as possible swinging out of my shoes on SuperSpeed (similar to Tyler Parsons)...then tighten up the on-course swing once Spring arrives.

If my numbers stay consistent and continue to show up on the course long term...I'm gonna keep grinding away through Protocol 1 and into Protocol 2.

This morning's numbers...all numbers are in MPH.

Kneel Green - 126
Kneel Blue - 121
Kneel Red - 113

Standing Green - 135
Standing Blue - 128
Standing Red - 124

Step Change Green - 140
Step Change Blue - 134
Step Change Red - 121

Final Green - 135

For reference, what were your starting number before starting the first protocol?  When did you start with SSG?
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:54 AM

View Postflushem, on 11 February 2018 - 11:39 PM, said:

I have more encouraging news to deliver for those who have been struggling with being plateau'd.

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Last night, I broke 7 records out of 21 swings;  my initial driver swing and final driver swing.  I think the biggest achievements were the regular dominant side swing and the step-change dominant side swing with green club.  These are the areas where some of us had major plateau issue.  I am sure I will hit plateau once again in the same area or others.

I would like to share few changes from past two sessions (2/8 & 2/10) were:
  • I widen my stance at least an inch by moving right foot away from ball.
  • I rotate my core max and widen my backswing
  • I breath out to relax arms and shoulder at top
  • I rotate my core to initiate the downswing
Since God creates us all individually and differently, my changes may not work for you but I hope that they could be helpful.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:11 AM

View PostSoonerChris, on 12 February 2018 - 10:36 AM, said:

For reference, what were your starting number before starting the first protocol?  When did you start with SSG?

I did (5) weeks of Intro Protocol...I did (3) weeks without a SSR.

I'm now on week (8) total...working M/W/F SSG splits in the mornings...prior to regular gym workout.

1st recorded SSR numbers in Intro Protocol were as follows (1/17/18):

Standing Green - 126
Standing Blue - 122
Standing Red - 111

Step Change Green - 124
Step Change Blue - 121
Step Change Red - 117

Final Green - 132


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:33 AM

View Postjj9000, on 12 February 2018 - 11:11 AM, said:

View PostSoonerChris, on 12 February 2018 - 10:36 AM, said:

For reference, what were your starting number before starting the first protocol?  When did you start with SSG?

I did (5) weeks of Intro Protocol...I did (3) weeks without a SSR.

I'm now on week (8) total...working M/W/F SSG splits in the mornings...prior to regular gym workout.

1st recorded SSR numbers in Intro Protocol were as follows (1/17/18):

Standing Green - 126
Standing Blue - 122
Standing Red - 111

Step Change Green - 124
Step Change Blue - 121
Step Change Red - 117

Final Green - 132

Thanks.  Have you measured actual swing speed with a driver before vs. after training?
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:02 PM

So I ordered a set of Super Speed Golf trainers (Budget golf has them for $150 with a coupon code -- google to find).  And picked up a the Sports Sensors Radar.

I am a former football player, wrestler, BJJ and rugby guy -- but I have given up all contact sports as in my 40s - I can no longer hang (I basically would be injured all the time).  But I have been bit hard by the golf bug, so all my energy goes that direction.  I still workout 4-5 days a week -- and I have really focused on workouts to improve my golf game (lots of lightweight squats on BOSU balls, lots of pushups, lots of rotational cable exercises, step ups, core strengthening, etc.).  I am currently 5'9" and about 205 lbs (35" waist) - which is a pretty good weight for me (although I could lose 10 lbs if I stopped drinking craft beers I am sure).  I have a lot of lower and upper body muscle mass, and would consider myself athletic for my age.  Not bragging -- but want to set the table.

That all said -- I swing like a little girl (or at least a man with a lot less strength than I have).  I have a SkyTrak at home and practice all the time, and my ball speeds off the driver at (at best) in the low 140s (145 if I smoke one).  ST says my SS is below 100 (from 95 to 98 on good strikes).  Keep in mind that ST does not have the ability to measure clubhead data -- so it is interpolating a SS.  A solid on course drive is 250-260 for me (with roll out).

I would love to get 10 mph more.  So ... I am jumping into this thread with both feet.

First question -- given that I am in pretty good shape -- can I skip the introductory protocol and start on protocol 1?

Thanks!

Edited by Qwiklap, 13 February 2018 - 01:03 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:13 PM

View PostQwiklap, on 13 February 2018 - 01:02 PM, said:

So I ordered a set of Super Speed Golf trainers (Budget golf has them for $150 with a coupon code -- google to find).  And picked up a the Sports Sensors Radar.

I am a former football player, wrestler, BJJ and rugby guy -- but I have given up all contact sports as in my 40s - I can no longer hang (I basically would be injured all the time).  But I have been bit hard by the golf bug, so all my energy goes that direction.  I still workout 4-5 days a week -- and I have really focused on workouts to improve my golf game (lots of lightweight squats on BOSU balls, lots of pushups, lots of rotational cable exercises, step ups, core strengthening, etc.).  I am currently 5'9" and about 205 lbs (35" waist) - which is a pretty good weight for me (although I could lose 10 lbs if I stopped drinking craft beers I am sure).  I have a lot of lower and upper body muscle mass, and would consider myself athletic for my age.  Not bragging -- but want to set the table.

That all said -- I swing like a little girl (or at least a man with a lot less strength than I have).  I have a SkyTrak at home and practice all the time, and my ball speeds off the driver at (at best) in the low 140s (145 if I smoke one).  ST says my SS is below 100 (from 95 to 98 on good strikes).  Keep in mind that ST does not have the ability to measure clubhead data -- so it is interpolating a SS.  A solid on course drive is 250-260 for me (with roll out).

I would love to get 10 mph more.  So ... I am jumping into this thread with both feet.

First question -- given that I am in pretty good shape -- can I skip the introductory protocol and start on protocol 1?

Thanks!

Good for you!  Some thoughts on why to do introductory:

> Even though you're fit in general, you're not necessarily using the right muscles to the same extent as you need to for a faster swing speed
> Random things like wrists can take a lot of strain, so again, Introductory may be good to get all the body parts acclimated to the stresses of swinging faster
> Non-dominant swings can be really uncoordinated to start with, so it's good to ease into this
> The only person I've ever heard being told to skip protocols was Tyler Parsons, and he already swings crazy fast so his body is used to the specific challenges already

Good luck!

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:17 PM

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View PostQwiklap, on 13 February 2018 - 01:02 PM, said:

So I ordered a set of Super Speed Golf trainers (Budget golf has them for $150 with a coupon code -- google to find).  And picked up a the Sports Sensors Radar.

I am a former football player, wrestler, BJJ and rugby guy -- but I have given up all contact sports as in my 40s - I can no longer hang (I basically would be injured all the time).  But I have been bit hard by the golf bug, so all my energy goes that direction.  I still workout 4-5 days a week -- and I have really focused on workouts to improve my golf game (lots of lightweight squats on BOSU balls, lots of pushups, lots of rotational cable exercises, step ups, core strengthening, etc.).  I am currently 5'9" and about 205 lbs (35" waist) - which is a pretty good weight for me (although I could lose 10 lbs if I stopped drinking craft beers I am sure).  I have a lot of lower and upper body muscle mass, and would consider myself athletic for my age.  Not bragging -- but want to set the table.

That all said -- I swing like a little girl (or at least a man with a lot less strength than I have).  I have a SkyTrak at home and practice all the time, and my ball speeds off the driver at (at best) in the low 140s (145 if I smoke one).  ST says my SS is below 100 (from 95 to 98 on good strikes).  Keep in mind that ST does not have the ability to measure clubhead data -- so it is interpolating a SS.  A solid on course drive is 250-260 for me (with roll out).

I would love to get 10 mph more.  So ... I am jumping into this thread with both feet.

First question -- given that I am in pretty good shape -- can I skip the introductory protocol and start on protocol 1?

Thanks!

Good for you!  Some thoughts on why to do introductory:

> Even though you're fit in general, you're not necessarily using the right muscles to the same extent as you need to for a faster swing speed
> Random things like wrists can take a lot of strain, so again, Introductory may be good to get all the body parts acclimated to the stresses of swinging faster
> Non-dominant swings can be really uncoordinated to start with, so it's good to ease into this
> The only person I've ever heard being told to skip protocols was Tyler Parsons, and he already swings crazy fast so his body is used to the specific challenges already

Good luck!

Thanks for the input -- I plan to keep the thread updated!
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:25 PM

@Quicklap...I wouldn't skip the Intro Protocol...regardless of how in shape you are.

Protocol 1 has 40% more workload...and if your body isn't ready for the workload...you may be sidelined.

Always...and I mean ALWAYS...stretch properly prior to each SSG session.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:26 PM

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Thanks for the input -- I plan to keep the thread updated!

Great!

BTW I work out and am decently strong, but I found that the protocols taxed things like tendons that I typically wasn't used to putting under so much strain.

You'll be out of the Introductory phase in no time, and should still see improvements during that phase!

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:02 PM

View Postjj9000, on 13 February 2018 - 01:25 PM, said:

@Quicklap...I wouldn't skip the Intro Protocol...regardless of how in shape you are.

Protocol 1 has 40% more workload...and if your body isn't ready for the workload...you may be sidelined.

Always...and I mean ALWAYS...stretch properly prior to each SSG session.

Thank you for the tips.  I definitely need to warm up an stretch.  I my left wrist is like an old man's -- it has to loosen up a lot to avoid pain and soreness.  I also have been having an issue with groin strains.  So I need to stretch out.

Is there a recommended stretching routine?  I have a MISIG -- I can use that to stretch the shoulders and hips.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:12 PM

I had a round yesterday. I forgot to take driver and SSR but Shot 88 at this flat muni course.  The score could've been better if I didn't suffer in the front nine with shanks.  I felt like I was squid in bad way. I generated fast swing speed but felt no pivot.  Thus no distance and balls were all over the place.  

Remedy: I remember that I had to stabilize my lower body.  Then I slow down my swing speed and made sure my body was loosed up.  Boom there it goes.  250 yds off 3wd and 220 off 3 hybrid.  

I will make adjustment and look forward to the adjusted SS.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:39 PM

I am not sure if this has been mentioned already, its quite the long thread so I honestly didn't read everything but for those building their speed training sticks....

If you build one that is same length from butt end of grip to the furthest end of your weight as your gamer driver is from butt end of grip to sweet spot, and its the same weight, whatever you get on the SSR for a reading should be what you can potentially swing with your gamer minus a few mph for drag of the larger club head.  So if you find you can swing your "gamer analog club" 120 mph, you can expect your could swing your gamer at least 117 mph I would guess.  It takes all of the guess work out of what your true swing speed is with the big stick due to SSR picking up toe, and toe speed is irrelevant, sweet spot speed is all that is important (and of course hitting the ball there).

Its easy to take this analog club and check your status from time to time as the speeds will be repeatable.  If you find your distance drop off, but you still swing this just as fast, you are likely just missing the sweet spot perhaps slightly etc etc.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:50 PM

I honestly wouldn't worry about matching your gamer. The program really is "swing hard af" over and over again to retrain your fast twitch muscles.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:39 PM

View Posttrumb1mj1, on 13 February 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

I honestly wouldn't worry about matching your gamer. The program really is "swing hard af" over and over again to retrain your fast twitch muscles.

I was referring to making one just so you can accurately test what your actual swing speed is with your gamer.  This is due to how hard it can be to get an accurate number from the SSR because of club head rotation.  I wasn't meaning it be part of the training system but merely as a very accurate was to measure your true swing speed progress with your driver.

For instance, if you buy those speed training sticks, they are 45 inches long, and their over all weights are what they are.  I built one that is exactly my driver weight (well just slightly heavier), exactly 44 inches like my driver, and the outer most edge of the brass weight, which the radar will likely read, is exactly the same distance from the butt of its grip as the sweetspot of my driver is from the butt of its grip.  I can easily measure my swing speed with this club and subtract 2-3 mph for drag and I have what should be a very accurate representation of my current swing speed.

I see some people on here measuring the swing speeds they get with the sticks, then show what their driver swing speeds are and they don't jive.  You likely cannont swing your driver faster than any of those sticks except maybe the heaviest one.  Likely the ssr was reading toe closure speed for some posters.  I'd think people would want a legit, no guess work representation of their swing speed after working on speed with this training system.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:25 PM

View Postclevited, on 13 February 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:

View Posttrumb1mj1, on 13 February 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

I honestly wouldn't worry about matching your gamer. The program really is "swing hard af" over and over again to retrain your fast twitch muscles.

I was referring to making one just so you can accurately test what your actual swing speed is with your gamer.  This is due to how hard it can be to get an accurate number from the SSR because of club head rotation.  I wasn't meaning it be part of the training system but merely as a very accurate was to measure your true swing speed progress with your driver.

For instance, if you buy those speed training sticks, they are 45 inches long, and their over all weights are what they are.  I built one that is exactly my driver weight (well just slightly heavier), exactly 44 inches like my driver, and the outer most edge of the brass weight, which the radar will likely read, is exactly the same distance from the butt of its grip as the sweetspot of my driver is from the butt of its grip.  I can easily measure my swing speed with this club and subtract 2-3 mph for drag and I have what should be a very accurate representation of my current swing speed.

I see some people on here measuring the swing speeds they get with the sticks, then show what their driver swing speeds are and they don't jive.  You likely cannont swing your driver faster than any of those sticks except maybe the heaviest one.  Likely the ssr was reading toe closure speed for some posters.  I'd think people would want a legit, no guess work representation of their swing speed after working on speed with this training system.

Here is my two cents.

SSR will only produce the approximate ss, not precise.  You are right about the club rotation speed.  However, for most of us, SSR is the ss measurement within budget.  Also, whether off by 5 - 10% or not, you get consistent but erroneous SS from SSR.

For legit SS, some of us witness the result on course.  Driving ball to place you only dream about and your buddies envy.  I think that's legit.  I use the Grint app to measure my driving distance.  That's also legit.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:34 PM

I hear what you are saying but I guess I have a different point of view.

I think the swing speed radar doesn't need to be precise, just accurate.  I don't care if its 120.1 or 120.4 or 120. +- a couple mph is all anyone can really ask for and tells you everything you need to know.  Trackman is precise, but I don't think it is any more accurate than SSR, in fact I believe it to be potentially less accurate, but I won't get into that.  As far as what I see on the course, that indeed says a lot, BUT if you don't know your swing speed, how do you know you are getting the most out of it??  I can swing X speed, but only get Y distance when I should be able to achieve Z distance.  That tells me I need to address my equipment, strike, or launch numbers or all of the above to achieve what I should be able to achieve.  Course conditions can also give me an inflated or deflated sense of what I should be realistically able to achieve, and therefore what hazards I can or cannot carry.

Edit:  I forgot to say that I don't get very consistent values from my SSR when swinging my driver.  If I am off just a little bit with its placement, and I am releasing the club a little early or a little late, I get crazy different results swing to swing from the toe snapping through.  With my analog driver, I get consistent numbers, very consistent numbers.  I can really learn something from those.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:53 PM

Trackman is extremely precise.  Many of us are or should be looking at ball speed on TM as the true indication of how much speed were picking up.  SS can be thrown off a little club to club but ball speed is dead on in my opinion.  Ive seen about 4 mph ball speed increase after intro and a couple weeks of the next protocol.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:11 PM

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Trackman is extremely precise.  Many of us are or should be looking at ball speed on TM as the true indication of how much speed we're picking up.  SS can be thrown off a little club to club but ball speed is dead on in my opinion.  I've seen about 4 mph ball speed increase after intro and a couple weeks of the next protocol.

I agree 100% that ball speed is absolutely accurate and precise on Trackman, and yes it can tell you an aweful lot.  I own a Skytrak and its quite good for that, but it has trouble with higher ball speeds but thats a story for another time.  I still prefer to know my swing speed within a couple mph, and then measure my ball speed with my Skytrak to measure my ball striking improvement.  I want to marry my max swing speed, to excellent ball striking, and excellent directional control.  That will be a long term endeavor.

There is just something about knowing you have a certain swing speed (in my case well above typical) that is like holding a carrot on stick over my head.  It drives me to keep working on my swing, and my all around game.  The thought of being able to take a shot par 4s and knowing I have a good chance to get there, really makes me excited.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:29 PM

View Postclevited, on 13 February 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

View Postswizbeatz, on 13 February 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

Trackman is extremely precise.  Many of us are or should be looking at ball speed on TM as the true indication of how much speed we're picking up.  SS can be thrown off a little club to club but ball speed is dead on in my opinion.  I've seen about 4 mph ball speed increase after intro and a couple weeks of the next protocol.

I agree 100% that ball speed is absolutely accurate and precise on Trackman, and yes it can tell you an aweful lot.  I own a Skytrak and its quite good for that, but it has trouble with higher ball speeds but thats a story for another time.  I still prefer to know my swing speed within a couple mph, and then measure my ball speed with my Skytrak to measure my ball striking improvement.  I want to marry my max swing speed, to excellent ball striking, and excellent directional control.  That will be a long term endeavor.

There is just something about knowing you have a certain swing speed (in my case well above typical) that is like holding a carrot on stick over my head.  It drives me to keep working on my swing, and my all around game.  The thought of being able to take a shot par 4s and knowing I have a good chance to get there, really makes me excited.

with all due respect, it is too much thinking.  I hope that your left brain does not occupy your swing.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:44 PM

View Postflushem, on 13 February 2018 - 10:29 PM, said:

View Postclevited, on 13 February 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

View Postswizbeatz, on 13 February 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

Trackman is extremely precise.  Many of us are or should be looking at ball speed on TM as the true indication of how much speed we're picking up.  SS can be thrown off a little club to club but ball speed is dead on in my opinion.  I've seen about 4 mph ball speed increase after intro and a couple weeks of the next protocol.

I agree 100% that ball speed is absolutely accurate and precise on Trackman, and yes it can tell you an aweful lot.  I own a Skytrak and its quite good for that, but it has trouble with higher ball speeds but thats a story for another time.  I still prefer to know my swing speed within a couple mph, and then measure my ball speed with my Skytrak to measure my ball striking improvement.  I want to marry my max swing speed, to excellent ball striking, and excellent directional control.  That will be a long term endeavor.

There is just something about knowing you have a certain swing speed (in my case well above typical) that is like holding a carrot on stick over my head.  It drives me to keep working on my swing, and my all around game.  The thought of being able to take a shot par 4s and knowing I have a good chance to get there, really makes me excited.

with all due respect, it is too much thinking.  I hope that your left brain does not occupy your swing.

I am an engineer by trade, too much thinking is what I do for a living.  When I play, I grip it and rip it.  I play to have fun and nothing makes me happier than driving 370 with a short chip and a putt for birdie.  I am working towards making those happen more often, after all, I have scramble teams that rely on me lol.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:00 AM

In regards to how SSR is translating into club speed, I have tracked this. I have a GC2 at home I have recorded all my "testing" sessions. With the testing sessions, they occur after a typical warm up with new pro v1x (2016 version). I try to have them occur on a day I didn't lift. I got SSR for xmas, so I started SSR on 12/27. I have the SSR data at home, but on every exercise, speed is up about 15 mph on avg since starting, most notably standing blue and standing red.

However, while I am seeing that ball speeds and carry distance have moved higher, it's not as much as I would think it should. Avg ball speed is up about 3mph which is only about 2mph of clubhead speed. Max ball speed about 5mph which is only just over 3mph of club speed. Side note, the driver shaft I'm not loving right now and just doesn't feel right, so maybe that lack of comfort is impact as with driver.  But who knows.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:29 AM

Alright gents...a quick update that I hope you find useful.

I've been plateau'd for the last couple of weeks...I won't bore you in this post with my SS data from earlier this morning.  But...suffice it to say that I'm going sideways and flattening out.

I reached out to both SuperSpeed Golf as well as Tyler Parsons yesterday...shared my numbers with them...and they both told me plateau is perfectly normal...and if I'm positive that I will continue to go sideways (speed-wise) on Protocol 1...then both said I should hop into Protocol 2.

As a side-note...both SSG as well as Tyler Parsons were very helpful in answering questions.  Also...while looking for Contact Information on Parsons' website I noticed that he offers Video Lessons for $20 per lesson ($50 for 3).  I took a double-take on that b/c at less than $20 per lesson for (3)...that's something I'll probably do in the Spring.  Good stuff right there!!!

Anyway...if I continue to see stagnant growth (speed-wise) in Protocol 2...I'm going to dial it back and start Maintaining (intro Phase only)...which is what SSG suggested to do.

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Standing Green - 7.94%
Standing Blue - 7.38%
Standing Red - 15.32%

Step Change Green - 12.10%
Step Change Blue - 7.44%
Step Change Red - 3.42%

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:30 AM

View PostPomps, on 14 February 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

In regards to how SSR is translating into club speed, I have tracked this. I have a GC2 at home I have recorded all my "testing" sessions. With the testing sessions, they occur after a typical warm up with new pro v1x (2016 version). I try to have them occur on a day I didn't lift. I got SSR for xmas, so I started SSR on 12/27. I have the SSR data at home, but on every exercise, speed is up about 15 mph on avg since starting, most notably standing blue and standing red.

However, while I am seeing that ball speeds and carry distance have moved higher, it's not as much as I would think it should. Avg ball speed is up about 3mph which is only about 2mph of clubhead speed. Max ball speed about 5mph which is only just over 3mph of club speed. Side note, the driver shaft I'm not loving right now and just doesn't feel right, so maybe that lack of comfort is impact as with driver.  But who knows.

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How does your speed with the sticks stack up to Tripps, check his excel file out.  Hes right around there with BS.  Thats what Im most curious to see, how does speed with sticks translate to ball speed across different people.

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