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Callaway GBB Epic and Epic Sub Zero: Drivers and Fairways


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#1891 tommaso05

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 08:17 AM

Had the best driving (9 hole) round in recent memory last night (league night) with my Epic SZ. Only hit the driver 4 times, but I mashed all of them. The first was a measured 318 yards 5 yard draw right to 145 yards out on a par 5 (slightly downwind). The next 2 were "don't pull it left" swings which I hit dead straight but not quite as far as my 1st drive, and the last 1 I smacked but pulled it a bit into a perfect spot in between the hole I was playing and the hole it paralleled. I actually took all of the trouble out of play by pulling it a little.

Last week I lofted up from my normal 9' to 10' and combined with my big swing change/fix, really meshed things perfectly. Bumping up to 10' definitely helps soften my draw.

I've got this paired with a Tensei CK Pro Orange TX 60, and it's the best driver/shaft combo I've ever used.

One of these days I'll rent some Trackman time and figure out my #'s and whatnot.

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 08:40 AM

Attention old guys with subsonic swing speeds...........the Epic works for us too (although posting how far your drives go could produce laughter)

.......great driver

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 03:40 PM

Apologies if it's been answered, 64 pages is a little daunting and the search function failed me: what size weight should I order from Billy Bob's to add to my current stock config to compensate for trimming an inch?

I'd like to keep it in the D2/D3 area. Thanks!
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Posted 04 August 2017 - 05:37 PM

I'm gonna add my GolfWRX swing results. 550y par 5 14th at Innisbrook Copperhead yesterday. Pounded a drive with my SZ and had 252y left. Hit 3-wood SZ pin high.

/brag

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 05:59 PM

Absolutely no comparison for me the standard Epic is 10x more consistent than the SZ...BB

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 06:00 PM

View Postscottc25, on 04 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

I'm gonna add my GolfWRX swing results. 550y par 5 14th at Innisbrook Copperhead yesterday. Pounded a drive with my SZ and had 252y left. Hit 3-wood SZ pin high.

/brag

You gotta at least tell us that the tees were back or the pin was way back so you hit it 300+. You know that 298 just won't cut it around here.

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:10 PM

Played with a buddy of mine last week that blew it by me by 50 - 80 yards on every hole. I complimented him on his powerful drives. Then I took 18 bucks from him after I beat his a$$ like a drum. :)
Welcome to where dumb opinions are better than no opinion. :)

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:11 PM

View Postxjohnx, on 04 August 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:

View Postscottc25, on 04 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

I'm gonna add my GolfWRX swing results. 550y par 5 14th at Innisbrook Copperhead yesterday. Pounded a drive with my SZ and had 252y left. Hit 3-wood SZ pin high.

/brag

You gotta at least tell us that the tees were back or the pin was way back so you hit it 300+. You know that 298 just won't cut it around here.

I know, I know, at least the 252y 3-wood made up for it :)

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:22 PM

View Postscottc25, on 04 August 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

View Postxjohnx, on 04 August 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:

View Postscottc25, on 04 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

I'm gonna add my GolfWRX swing results. 550y par 5 14th at Innisbrook Copperhead yesterday. Pounded a drive with my SZ and had 252y left. Hit 3-wood SZ pin high.

/brag

You gotta at least tell us that the tees were back or the pin was way back so you hit it 300+. You know that 298 just won't cut it around here.

I know, I know, at least the 252y 3-wood made up for it :)

No doubt. The SZ 3 wood is a cannon. My favorite club in years.

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 01:39 PM

Just picked up a SZ from the PGA superstore preowned bin.  Great condition, $350 with tax.  Super psyched!


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Posted 06 August 2017 - 01:52 PM

I HATE THIS CLUB!!!

Does anybody else find it extremely annoying to hit a ball then have to wait 15 minutes watching your 3 playing partners hit their approaches then driving up the fairway to your ball and playing in. It's like I have to wait forever between shots. I'd take my Epic 3 wood off the tee so I can lay back with them, but that isn't even a guarantee anymore. That thing is an absolute bomb too!!

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 10:33 PM

View PostShayan1121, on 06 August 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

I HATE THIS CLUB!!!

Does anybody else find it extremely annoying to hit a ball then have to wait 15 minutes watching your 3 playing partners hit their approaches then driving up the fairway to your ball and playing in. It's like I have to wait forever between shots. I'd take my Epic 3 wood off the tee so I can lay back with them, but that isn't even a guarantee anymore. That thing is an absolute bomb too!!

:rofl:

Aint that a b****. :D

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 06:01 AM

My league partner and I have always been pretty close off the tee until I got the Epic. He hasn't been within 15 yards of me since.
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Posted 07 August 2017 - 06:06 PM

These woods offer a step forward in performance that hasn't been seen since the GBB titanium. Other clubs may match them on excellent center strikes but combine the performance with the forgiveness and it's an impressive product line.

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 06:37 PM

View PostNight train, on 07 August 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

These woods offer a step forward in performance that hasn't been seen since the GBB titanium. Other clubs may match them on excellent center strikes but combine the performance with the forgiveness and it's an impressive product line.

Guess my next purchase will have to be a 4 wood. :)

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 08:23 AM

The Epic Heavenwood is now my favorite club in the bag.  The thing is an absolute beast.  I shorter courses  (Par 4's: 340-380),  I don't even take the driver out.
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Posted 08 August 2017 - 08:35 AM

View Postarbitrage, on 08 August 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

The Epic Heavenwood is now my favorite club in the bag.  The thing is an absolute beast.  I shorter courses  (Par 4's: 340-380),  I don't even take the driver out.

Feel the same about the 3H, using it as much or more than the SZ3+ lately.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 08:59 AM

Has anyone struggled with the Epic spinning initially then found a shaft that was a good fit and reduced spin? I loved the ball speed I got with the Epic, but I spun it too much. I even tried a T1100 in it but that didn't bring it down either. Thinking the head just isn't a fit for my swing. I'm not getting the same ball speed with my M1 440 but it's impossible to spin it more than 2300-2400, which I love. I had the same results with the Sub Zero head btw, same spin numbers but lower ball speed.
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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:13 AM

View Postcoreyhr, on 08 August 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Has anyone struggled with the Epic spinning initially then found a shaft that was a good fit and reduced spin? I loved the ball speed I got with the Epic, but I spun it too much. I even tried a T1100 in it but that didn't bring it down either. Thinking the head just isn't a fit for my swing. I'm not getting the same ball speed with my M1 440 but it's impossible to spin it more than 2300-2400, which I love. I had the same results with the Sub Zero head btw, same spin numbers but lower ball speed.

Did you try the SZ head? I'd give it another shot. With a t1100 these heads really shouldn't spin too much more than a M1 440 unless you were playing way too much loft. Could have been an off day or unreliable data.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:53 AM

View Postxjohnx, on 08 August 2017 - 09:13 AM, said:

View Postcoreyhr, on 08 August 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Has anyone struggled with the Epic spinning initially then found a shaft that was a good fit and reduced spin? I loved the ball speed I got with the Epic, but I spun it too much. I even tried a T1100 in it but that didn't bring it down either. Thinking the head just isn't a fit for my swing. I'm not getting the same ball speed with my M1 440 but it's impossible to spin it more than 2300-2400, which I love. I had the same results with the Sub Zero head btw, same spin numbers but lower ball speed.

Did you try the SZ head? I'd give it another shot. With a t1100 these heads really shouldn't spin too much more than a M1 440 unless you were playing way too much loft. Could have been an off day or unreliable data.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:04 PM

View Postnsxguy, on 09 August 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

View Postxjohnx, on 08 August 2017 - 09:13 AM, said:

View Postcoreyhr, on 08 August 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Has anyone struggled with the Epic spinning initially then found a shaft that was a good fit and reduced spin? I loved the ball speed I got with the Epic, but I spun it too much. I even tried a T1100 in it but that didn't bring it down either. Thinking the head just isn't a fit for my swing. I'm not getting the same ball speed with my M1 440 but it's impossible to spin it more than 2300-2400, which I love. I had the same results with the Sub Zero head btw, same spin numbers but lower ball speed.

Did you try the SZ head? I'd give it another shot. With a t1100 these heads really shouldn't spin too much more than a M1 440 unless you were playing way too much loft. Could have been an off day or unreliable data.

:dntknw:

I'm going to blame that on going to the eye doctors at lunch time yesterday and having bright lights shined in my eyes. Total BS though since I guess I just didn't read it all! But I'm still surprised he saw that much of a variance in spin. Hard to tell why though. Golf is a b****.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:09 PM

View Postxjohnx, on 09 August 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

View Postnsxguy, on 09 August 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

View Postxjohnx, on 08 August 2017 - 09:13 AM, said:

View Postcoreyhr, on 08 August 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Has anyone struggled with the Epic spinning initially then found a shaft that was a good fit and reduced spin? I loved the ball speed I got with the Epic, but I spun it too much. I even tried a T1100 in it but that didn't bring it down either. Thinking the head just isn't a fit for my swing. I'm not getting the same ball speed with my M1 440 but it's impossible to spin it more than 2300-2400, which I love. I had the same results with the Sub Zero head btw, same spin numbers but lower ball speed.

Did you try the SZ head? I'd give it another shot. With a t1100 these heads really shouldn't spin too much more than a M1 440 unless you were playing way too much loft. Could have been an off day or unreliable data.

:dntknw:

I'm going to blame that on going to the eye doctors at lunch time yesterday and having bright lights shined in my eyes. Total BS though since I guess I just didn't read it all! But I'm still surprised he saw that much of a variance in spin. Hard to tell why though. Golf is a b****.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 01:34 PM

View Postnsxguy, on 09 August 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

View Postxjohnx, on 09 August 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

View Postnsxguy, on 09 August 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

View Postxjohnx, on 08 August 2017 - 09:13 AM, said:

View Postcoreyhr, on 08 August 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Has anyone struggled with the Epic spinning initially then found a shaft that was a good fit and reduced spin? I loved the ball speed I got with the Epic, but I spun it too much. I even tried a T1100 in it but that didn't bring it down either. Thinking the head just isn't a fit for my swing. I'm not getting the same ball speed with my M1 440 but it's impossible to spin it more than 2300-2400, which I love. I had the same results with the Sub Zero head btw, same spin numbers but lower ball speed.

Did you try the SZ head? I'd give it another shot. With a t1100 these heads really shouldn't spin too much more than a M1 440 unless you were playing way too much loft. Could have been an off day or unreliable data.

:dntknw:

I'm going to blame that on going to the eye doctors at lunch time yesterday and having bright lights shined in my eyes. Total BS though since I guess I just didn't read it all! But I'm still surprised he saw that much of a variance in spin. Hard to tell why though. Golf is a b****.

Just bustin' 'em. Wish I had a nickel for everything I've missed in others' posts. I'd have a LOT of nickels. :D

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 04:06 PM

The SZ 3 wood has been the best 3W I've ever hit. The beginning of the season I kept my 3W out of the bag (915F) because I couldn't hit it for the life of me. Took a chance on the SZ and it's been the best purchase for me this year. It's incredibly long and straight.  

Also have the SZ 9* driver and while I'm currently working on swing changes with my driver, when I hit it on the screws with the AD TP-7s it gives me a piercing, mid flight that rolls forever. Hit my longest drive last week at 294 yds (I'm usually a 240-265 total depending on conditions).

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 04:44 PM

I still can't get over this driver. Last night in league I hit one pretty far out on the toe on a par 5. With roll my drive rolled out to just short of 250. I know that's laughable for most here but for a short dumpy 65 year old who has never been a big hitter I couldn't be happier. This experience just reinforces the importance of getting fitted with the right shaft.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 05:07 PM

View PostJDMRN81, on 09 August 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

The SZ 3 wood has been the best 3W I've ever hit. The beginning of the season I kept my 3W out of the bag (915F) because I couldn't hit it for the life of me. Took a chance on the SZ and it's been the best purchase for me this year. It's incredibly long and straight.  

Also have the SZ 9* driver and while I'm currently working on swing changes with my driver, when I hit it on the screws with the AD TP-7s it gives me a piercing, mid flight that rolls forever. Hit my longest drive last week at 294 yds (I'm usually a 240-265 total depending on conditions).

Same boat here. I've been playing 10+ year old 3 woods for years because everything modern has been too large and bulky for me. Drivers are a different story as I've had many in recent years. Went in right away to get fit for a driver in February and when I saw the SZ was actually a small head by recent standards I decided to order it blindly just to match the driver.

Fast forward and from the day I got it until this moment the SZ 3 wood has been a 100% reliable cannon. I love the driver too but have issues and my confidence comes and goes. The SZ 3 wood is by far the most automatic and reliable club I've ever had in my bag in 20 years. There are days where I wonder why I even bother with the driver at all.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 04:38 PM

Just got another epic 🤣  Weight of the head is 198g on this one. 👍🏼
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:33 AM

A beast of a driver. Hit a demo against my current gamer '17 m2 hzrdus 65 x and was consistently 15 yards further. The launch and spin numbers this produces are unreal. Reminds me of the first time I tried the sldr, but way more forgiving and better feel. I pulled the trigger on it. 9* epic sz weight forward Rogue 75 x.
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:08 AM

Anyone have a long term review of the SZ 5W? I have the SZ 3W and its a beast.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:23 AM

Have mine dialed in and loving life.


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