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#1 Vespar

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 09:17 PM

I never would have believed it, but I averaged 11.5 yards further than Prov1 and Cally chrome average distances with an 8 iron . 10 shots each on a trackman, there was no mistake. The ball went noticeably higher to the eye and trackman confirmed the distances.



High launch, with low spin...its crazy, I have no idea how they did it

Edited by Vespar, 20 December 2016 - 09:18 PM.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 09:35 PM

Is this the older one or a upcoming model?

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 11:01 PM

View Postdeetsal, on 20 December 2016 - 09:35 PM, said:

Is this the older one or a upcoming model?

TP5 is a new for 2017 model.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 11:37 PM

Wait they re-used an old name? Didn't pick up on that until now.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 12:10 AM

Yea so did I.. I had a fitting a few weeks back and the ball was a huge improvement..
15 yards with the 17 m2 and TP5X over the current m2 and TP5X!
High launch super soft and sooooo long.
Wasn't very durable but to be fair it was a prototype..
I WILL be using ONLY that ball once it's released


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 12:12 AM

When is it released?

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 03:17 AM

View Postscratchswinger, on 21 December 2016 - 12:12 AM, said:

When is it released?

According to TM site, Spring 2017.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 12:12 PM

View PostVespar, on 20 December 2016 - 09:17 PM, said:

I never would have believed it, but I averaged 11.5 yards further than Prov1 and Cally chrome average distances with an 8 iron . 10 shots each on a trackman, there was no mistake. The ball went noticeably higher to the eye and trackman confirmed the distances.



High launch, with low spin...its crazy, I have no idea how they did it

Was this the just the TP5, or the TP5x? Have you have the opportunity to hit both?
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Posted 21 December 2016 - 01:29 PM

:angry22: :busted_cop: :busted_cop: Ok, NO WAY ! A ball is a ball , and TM did not just bust the USGA code. All you have to do is look at this forum for the last 5 years and see the "last" ball that increased distance 5-10-1000 yards  Maybe there is a 1-2 mph ball speed increase but a premium golf ball goes as far as any other premium golf ball. TBS, you can love it all you want and if you think it goes further, have at it. But, come on, please :derisive: :blind: :wave:

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 01:44 PM

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 01:29 PM, said:

:angry22: :busted_cop: :busted_cop: Ok, NO WAY ! A ball is a ball , and TM did not just bust the USGA code. All you have to do is look at this forum for the last 5 years and see the "last" ball that increased distance 5-10-1000 yards  Maybe there is a 1-2 mph ball speed increase but a premium golf ball goes as far as any other premium golf ball. TBS, you can love it all you want and if you think it goes further, have at it. But, come on, please :derisive: :blind: :wave:

Not sure where to start with this one. There are as many factually incorrect statements in this post as there are sentences.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 05:10 PM

View Postalexdub, on 21 December 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 01:29 PM, said:

:angry22: :busted_cop: :busted_cop: Ok, NO WAY ! A ball is a ball , and TM did not just bust the USGA code. All you have to do is look at this forum for the last 5 years and see the "last" ball that increased distance 5-10-1000 yards  Maybe there is a 1-2 mph ball speed increase but a premium golf ball goes as far as any other premium golf ball. TBS, you can love it all you want and if you think it goes further, have at it. But, come on, please :derisive: :blind: :wave:

Not sure where to start with this one. There are as many factually incorrect statements in this post as there are sentences.
Nope, I don't mind you expressing your thoughts but physics is physics. I wish there was a ball that changes the ball, there ain't. Except maybe the Kirkland, that one goes 10 more !! :stop: :superman:

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 06:03 PM

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

View Postalexdub, on 21 December 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 01:29 PM, said:

:angry22: :busted_cop: :busted_cop: Ok, NO WAY ! A ball is a ball , and TM did not just bust the USGA code. All you have to do is look at this forum for the last 5 years and see the "last" ball that increased distance 5-10-1000 yards  Maybe there is a 1-2 mph ball speed increase but a premium golf ball goes as far as any other premium golf ball. TBS, you can love it all you want and if you think it goes further, have at it. But, come on, please :derisive: :blind: :wave:

Not sure where to start with this one. There are as many factually incorrect statements in this post as there are sentences.
Nope, I don't mind you expressing your thoughts but physics is physics. I wish there was a ball that changes the ball, there ain't. Except maybe the Kirkland, that one goes 10 more !! :stop: :superman:

I'm still not following... so is Trackman inaccurate?

Independent Trackman analysis shows ~10 yards gained off of long irons and ~5 yards off the tee with driver in direct comparison Pro V1x.
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Posted 21 December 2016 - 06:06 PM

View PostVespar, on 20 December 2016 - 09:17 PM, said:

I never would have believed it, but I averaged 11.5 yards further than Prov1 and Cally chrome average distances with an 8 iron . 10 shots each on a trackman, there was no mistake. The ball went noticeably higher to the eye and trackman confirmed the distances.



High launch, with low spin...its crazy, I have no idea how they did it

Astounding, but please tell me why you want low spin on an 8-iron.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:20 PM

View Postalexdub, on 21 December 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 05:10 PM, said:

View Postalexdub, on 21 December 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 01:29 PM, said:

:angry22: :busted_cop: :busted_cop: Ok, NO WAY ! A ball is a ball , and TM did not just bust the USGA code. All you have to do is look at this forum for the last 5 years and see the "last" ball that increased distance 5-10-1000 yards  Maybe there is a 1-2 mph ball speed increase but a premium golf ball goes as far as any other premium golf ball. TBS, you can love it all you want and if you think it goes further, have at it. But, come on, please :derisive: :blind: :wave:

Not sure where to start with this one. There are as many factually incorrect statements in this post as there are sentences.
Nope, I don't mind you expressing your thoughts but physics is physics. I wish there was a ball that changes the ball, there ain't. Except maybe the Kirkland, that one goes 10 more !! :stop: :superman:

I'm still not following... so is Trackman inaccurate?

Independent Trackman analysis shows ~10 yards gained off of long irons and ~5 yards off the tee with driver in direct comparison Pro V1x.
*irons going 11.5 yds further, yup, something's not working :read: :read:

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:20 PM

View Postrgk5, on 21 December 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

View PostVespar, on 20 December 2016 - 09:17 PM, said:

I never would have believed it, but I averaged 11.5 yards further than Prov1 and Cally chrome average distances with an 8 iron . 10 shots each on a trackman, there was no mistake. The ball went noticeably higher to the eye and trackman confirmed the distances.



High launch, with low spin...its crazy, I have no idea how they did it

Astounding, but please tell me why you want low spin on an 8-iron.

So it goes further. Distance baby!


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:36 PM

And the Kirkland test couldn't be any more unscientific if it was done at a county fair ; take some golfers , remove the mishits, stir it all up and 10/5; ok, so ? :beruo:
A ball is a ball

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 10:06 PM

View Postrgk5, on 21 December 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

View PostVespar, on 20 December 2016 - 09:17 PM, said:

I never would have believed it, but I averaged 11.5 yards further than Prov1 and Cally chrome average distances with an 8 iron . 10 shots each on a trackman, there was no mistake. The ball went noticeably higher to the eye and trackman confirmed the distances.



High launch, with low spin...its crazy, I have no idea how they did it

Astounding, but please tell me why you want low spin on an 8-iron.

I honestly wouldn't mind it especially on mushy greens. The Lethal kind of played that way for me and I loved that ball.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 10:07 PM

View Postmicha, on 21 December 2016 - 10:06 PM, said:

View Postrgk5, on 21 December 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

View PostVespar, on 20 December 2016 - 09:17 PM, said:

I never would have believed it, but I averaged 11.5 yards further than Prov1 and Cally chrome average distances with an 8 iron . 10 shots each on a trackman, there was no mistake. The ball went noticeably higher to the eye and trackman confirmed the distances.



High launch, with low spin...its crazy, I have no idea how they did it

Astounding, but please tell me why you want low spin on an 8-iron.

I honestly wouldn't mind it especially on mushy greens. The Lethal kind of played that way for me and I loved that ball.

What if this was just a Lethal rebadge?!?! That ball was awesome!
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Posted 23 December 2016 - 02:11 PM

Can't wait to try these out! Heard nothing but great things about them! I hope the seam is closer to seamless on these! The older models were like a two lane highway!
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Posted 23 December 2016 - 08:53 PM

Seam 'em, another 20 yards !!


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Posted 23 December 2016 - 09:01 PM

View Postrgk5, on 21 December 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

View PostVespar, on 20 December 2016 - 09:17 PM, said:

I never would have believed it, but I averaged 11.5 yards further than Prov1 and Cally chrome average distances with an 8 iron . 10 shots each on a trackman, there was no mistake. The ball went noticeably higher to the eye and trackman confirmed the distances.



High launch, with low spin...its crazy, I have no idea how they did it

Astounding, but please tell me why you want low spin on an 8-iron.

Some players will spin full iron shots too much, where they back up a lot on the green.  For a that player, an ideal premium ball is low spin off the driver, "relatively" lower spin on full irons, but still high spin on partial wedge shots

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 11:38 PM

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

And the Kirkland test couldn't be any more unscientific if it was done at a county fair ; take some golfers , remove the mishits, stir it all up and 10/5; ok, so ? :beruo:
A ball is a ball

I guess we all know what Breed's WRX handle is now....

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 11:51 PM

View PostTyus Stones, on 23 December 2016 - 11:38 PM, said:

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

And the Kirkland test couldn't be any more unscientific if it was done at a county fair ; take some golfers , remove the mishits, stir it all up and 10/5; ok, so ? :beruo:
A ball is a ball

I guess we all know what Breed's WRX handle is now....
jack wagon breed?

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 09:21 AM

It's ok fellas, I love the "next great thing'', too. I remember the "Laddie"; 8 thousand versions of the Penta ; seaming; "the ball that changed the ball" immediately followed by another version, and this year an "x" version; balls with -10 compression and now Kirkland. If you look at the "test" the KSB spun much less, on the driver, than ProV1. Had they compared it with the X, the "results" would have been no "distance" difference. It's fine, I love the hype and the thought that one can buy instead of practice. My pro will tell you how tired he is of me trying a new ball, telling him how great it is and then asking to trade it in the following week. I will try this new Penta, I'm sure it's great and if I ever find a KSB I'll tee that up, too. And I'll still be using an X when I'm grindin'.... :wave: :idhitit: Oh, yeah, Breed gives me a headache and Haney is so cranky that he's actually fun to listen to. Either one will sell anything but I would, too, if they paid ME.

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 10:34 AM

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

And the Kirkland test couldn't be any more unscientific if it was done at a county fair ; take some golfers , remove the mishits, stir it all up and 10/5; ok, so ? :beruo:
A ball is a ball

A conforming ball is a conforming ball. They are all tested and ones that go "10 yards farther" fail the test.

But then again maybe all the name-brand manufacturers have been deliberately selling balls that go ten yards shorter all these years. That's a pretty massive conspiracy there, especially given that it would be stupid and pointless and gain them nothing.

A chicken is just an egg's way of making more eggs.

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:27 AM

View PostNorth Butte, on 24 December 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

And the Kirkland test couldn't be any more unscientific if it was done at a county fair ; take some golfers , remove the mishits, stir it all up and 10/5; ok, so ? :beruo:
A ball is a ball

A conforming ball is a conforming ball. They are all tested and ones that go "10 yards farther" fail the test.

But then again maybe all the name-brand manufacturers have been deliberately selling balls that go ten yards shorter all these years. That's a pretty massive conspiracy there, especially given that it would be stupid and pointless and gain them nothing.

So are you saying a company couldn't possibly change the ball enough (while still being conforming) to see a gain of 10 yards?
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Posted 24 December 2016 - 12:12 PM

View Postkcsf, on 24 December 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:

View PostNorth Butte, on 24 December 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

And the Kirkland test couldn't be any more unscientific if it was done at a county fair ; take some golfers , remove the mishits, stir it all up and 10/5; ok, so ? :beruo:
A ball is a ball

A conforming ball is a conforming ball. They are all tested and ones that go "10 yards farther" fail the test.

But then again maybe all the name-brand manufacturers have been deliberately selling balls that go ten yards shorter all these years. That's a pretty massive conspiracy there, especially given that it would be stupid and pointless and gain them nothing.

So are you saying a company couldn't possibly change the ball enough (while still being conforming) to see a gain of 10 yards?
YES !!

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 12:16 PM

Any of you guys watching "All Star Golf" today on the Golf channel. Arnie and Littler and Stranahan hitting it 300 with balata and persimmon. Talent always rules ! :deadhorse: :good:

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 12:22 PM

View Postkcsf, on 24 December 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:

View PostNorth Butte, on 24 December 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

View Postjwb10, on 21 December 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

And the Kirkland test couldn't be any more unscientific if it was done at a county fair ; take some golfers , remove the mishits, stir it all up and 10/5; ok, so ? :beruo:
A ball is a ball

A conforming ball is a conforming ball. They are all tested and ones that go "10 yards farther" fail the test.

But then again maybe all the name-brand manufacturers have been deliberately selling balls that go ten yards shorter all these years. That's a pretty massive conspiracy there, especially given that it would be stupid and pointless and gain them nothing.

So are you saying a company couldn't possibly change the ball enough (while still being conforming) to see a gain of 10 yards?

I'm saying if they did it would not conform.

I do not for an instant believe Titleist and Bridgestone and Callaway and Wlson and Taylormade have been choosing to sell golf balls 10 yards shorter than allowed by the USGA rules. They are doing their best to get right up against the conforming distance limit or at least within a couple yards of it.

So three possibilities.  The entire industry has been choosing to sell balls that don't perform as well as the USGA allows. Or the K-Sig is non-conforming. Or that other social-media site is full of beans.

I only find one of those possibilities remotely plausible. One piece of click-bait does not invalidate everything we know about an entire industry.
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Posted 25 December 2016 - 12:42 AM

View PostGC70, on 23 December 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Can't wait to try these out! Heard nothing but great things about them! I hope the seam is closer to seamless on these! The older models were like a two lane highway!

View PostCwebb, on 23 December 2016 - 09:01 PM, said:

View Postrgk5, on 21 December 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

View PostVespar, on 20 December 2016 - 09:17 PM, said:

I never would have believed it, but I averaged 11.5 yards further than Prov1 and Cally chrome average distances with an 8 iron . 10 shots each on a trackman, there was no mistake. The ball went noticeably higher to the eye and trackman confirmed the distances.



High launch, with low spin...its crazy, I have no idea how they did it

Astounding, but please tell me why you want low spin on an 8-iron.

Some players will spin full iron shots too much, where they back up a lot on the green.  For a that player, an ideal premium ball is low spin off the driver, "relatively" lower spin on full irons, but still high spin on partial wedge shots

Exactly!

View PostGC70, on 23 December 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Can't wait to try these out! Heard nothing but great things about them! I hope the seam is closer to seamless on these! The older models were like a two lane highway!

Sadly,  the seem on TP5 is identical to Lethal and the past couple of years TM offerings.

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